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Old 03-28-2004, 12:43 AM
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Super Mario World 1 & 2 appreciation thread.

Just unlocked and fully completed Super Mario World for the first time in about a dozen years lol! Man, what a kickass experience! I was particularly taken aback by the memories I had upon entering the Star World and especially the "Special" section of the map. Man, the stages in that Special road are nothing short of brilliant and quite difficult as well! My favorite part of playing SMW is getting Purple Yoshi and then getting the Wings to fly high over the enemies. Man what a rush!!

Anyway Bowser and his castle were not as hard as I remembered and Bowser in particular wasn't as difficult as some of the other castle bosses(Ludwig anyone?) I mean. just flip the little mecka bowsers up in the air and have them land on Bowser...no big deal.

Anyway it took me like 3 days to complete the game thanks to save states. There's nothing like falling through a crack, dying, then owning every enemy in the stage by coming back to life via hitting "Alt Left" to load the state LOLOL! Gotta love ZSNES! With save states in different locations I can go anywhere on the map at the press of a button hehe!

Super Mario World fun facts:

1)Did you know that the main programmer of the game is not Miyamoto? That's right, it's some guy named Tezuka something! Miyamoto only produced the game!

2)Did you know you can re-enter an already beaten castle by pressing L+R together?

3)Did you know that those Red, Yellow, Blue, and Green blank, dotty blocka can be filled up? By finding certain keys and getting into a special stage that looks like an exclamation mark, once you beat that stage it will smash down and the colour of that stage will result in the block being filled up!

4)Did you know that there is a secret way you can open up and enter a back door to Bowsers castle?

Anyway I just fired up Super Mario World II: Yoshi's Eyeland a couple minutes ago and played it for the first time ever in my life. I am love with the colours and overall graphics but I admit they take some getting used to. They kinda blend in a little too well. I'm not sure whether I like it better than SMW 1 yet....only played like half way through the first stage. It has quite a few additions and little extra things Yoshi can pull off as oppased to the original SMW.

Which game do you guys think is better and is it worth going through Yoshi's Eyeland?

By the way(laces up Reeboks and prepares to run) I've never played Super Mario 64 in my life, only like 5 minutes of it at my buddy's home years ago and I couldn't warm up to it. Yes, you can kill me now! But I have no plans to ever touch that game again! 3D Mariio is like a 3D King of Fighters or 3D Ms Pac-man...just plain WRONG!

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Both are among the greatest games ever made.

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1)Did you know that the main programmer of the game is not Miyamoto? That's right, it's some guy named Tezuka something! Miyamoto only produced the game!
Miyamoto hasn't programmed any game anyway. Neither has Tezuka as far as I can tell. Tezuka was Lead Director for Super Mario World. I forget the various programmers' names.

And Super Mario 64 is also awesome. You should give it another chance.
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lol!

save states. There's nothing like owning every enemy in the stage by hitting "Alt Left" to load the state LOLOL! Gotta love ZSNES! hehe!

Eyeland

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Yes, you can kill me now!

3D is like just plain WRONG!

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I resent that Nintendo decided to call Yoshi's Island SMW2. Mario isn't the star, and hence is not a Mario game. Perhaps they should have just called it Yossi's Island

As far as I'm concerned, Yoshi's Island is the #1 greatest videogame of all time.
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:00 AM
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It's in threads like these that you really feel the emptiness that banned trolls leave behind..

What else was Tezuka involved with?
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I'm just going to say this...

There is a void inside me. A void left by Nintendo.

Why?

The GBA is the perfect chance to make a new 2D Mario game.

And they have yet to do so.

64 and Sunshine didn't do it for me. I want a 2D Mario.

Please Nintendo...return to form.
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Old 03-28-2004, 03:02 AM
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Agreed.

And let's just say that the world of TNL has moved on... this thread isn't even in Fight Club yet.
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Old 03-28-2004, 03:09 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, Yoshi's Island is the #1 greatest videogame of all time.
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Please Nintendo...return to form.
Never happen, collect all old gems and worship their former glory.

The nintendo we knew was a long time ago... please move along.
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Maybe they'll a 2D Mario on the DS where you can alternate play as Yos(s)hi and Mario and use the second screen for power-up info and such. I love the original SMW, and Yoshi's Island is fun too, just not as enjoyable to me as the first.
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Well, although Mario Bros StarSaga wasent a traditional Mario game, it was still a damn good effort. Best Mario game in years.
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By the way(laces up Reeboks and prepares to run) I've never played Super Mario 64 in my life, only like 5 minutes of it at my buddy's home years ago and I couldn't warm up to it. Yes, you can kill me now! But I have no plans to ever touch that game again!
I'm sure you truly experienced the vast areas and different levels while getting a perfect grip on the controls in five minutes.
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It's not like most of the 2D KoF's are all that, so I don't see how a 3D one could be all that worse.
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As far as I'm concerned, Yoshi's Island is the #1 greatest videogame of all time.
comments like that make me wet!!!
I second the notion.
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Yossy Eyeland is the best game ever.


this made me laugh so hard, tears are streaming down my face.
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I'm just going to say this...

There is a void inside me. A void left by Nintendo.

Why?

The GBA is the perfect chance to make a new 2D Mario game.

And they have yet to do so.

64 and Sunshine didn't do it for me. I want a 2D Mario.

Please Nintendo...return to form.
Eventually they'll run out of old 2D Mario to port, and will break down and release a new one.

Dual Screen Mario can't be far off
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Old 03-28-2004, 05:10 AM
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Alright, so you like neither SMW2 nor SM64?

You have to be kidding me.
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:44 AM
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While Mario 64 has aged better than many 3D games, it's still a pretty tough pill to swallow if you've never played the game before, and are used to today's 3D games... so I can understand someone not getting into it. Hell, I have fond memories of it from launch and it doesn't even quite do it for me anymore (great but... dated).

Explaining why someone doesn't like any of the simple, pretty, 2D Marios... is something I cannot do however.

I do like Super Mario World better than its sequel for the record (both are excellent though).
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I loved Mario 64, and still enjoy playing it now and again, as the graphics look simple, not bad, and the effect on Metal Mario still looks great. The camera is also easy to control, which is more than can be said for many 3D games now, and I'd like to see it get a sequel that was just as innovative.
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Old 03-28-2004, 04:58 PM
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Eventually they'll run out of old 2D Mario to port, and will break down and release a new one.

Dual Screen Mario can't be far off
Man, I hope you're right. I'd do crazy stuff in order to get a new 2D Mario.

Crazy shit.
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Old 03-28-2004, 05:20 PM
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I'd rather play Croc before Mario 64, worst game in the series.
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Yoshi's Island is probably the best 2D platformer ever.

Mario 64 is definitely the best 3D one.
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is yi harder or easier tha smw1?
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:34 PM
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Harder for me, but that tends to vary from person-to-person.
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Well, Yoshi's Island does have those damned impossible Special Stages...
...I'm still stuck on the one with the monkeys. I think it's in World 4...
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As far as I'm concerned, Yoshi's Island is the #1 greatest videogame of all time.
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I really like both Mario 64 and Sunshine, and depending on the day flip-flop which of the two I like better.

Yoshi's Island is awesome, but I have to give the nod to the Super Mario World.
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Well, Yoshi's Island does have those damned impossible Special Stages...
...I'm still stuck on the one with the monkeys. I think it's in World 4...
100% on the GBA rev in a week (not to mention the original, years ago...)

And my tip o'the hat goes to SMB3. KURIBO'S SHOE XD!

OK, OK, between SMW and Yossy's Eyeland I say SMW.
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As far as I'm concerned, Yoshi's Island is the #1 greatest videogame of all time.
Unless you meant to say "stars the #1 greatest videogame character of all time," pass the pipe.
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Yoshi's Island is definitely my favorite 2D platformer that I've played. Absolutely amazing game. Yes, better (and more difficult) than SMW I say.

Are the extras in the GBA version worth getting that for? What are they?
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One of the best video game moments ever has to be the very end of the special stages in SMW1 where time is running out since the clock is so short on that board and you are sprinting for your life towards the goal and the coins spell out in huge letters "YOU ARE A SUPER PLAYER". I've only seen that once in my life on my orriginal play through of the game when I first got my SNES, but man.... It was awesome.
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Are the extras in the GBA version worth getting that for? What are they?
It's got an entire extra level per world.

Up to you, really, but I loved it all over again.

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One of the best video game moments ever has to be the very end of the special stages in SMW1 where time is running out since the clock is so short on that board and you are sprinting for your life towards the goal and the coins spell out in huge letters "YOU ARE A SUPER PLAYER". I've only seen that once in my life on my orriginal play through of the game when I first got my SNES, but man.... It was awesome.
Ha, yeah... time was running out because I had been dicking around, feeding apples to Yoshi. What a great game.
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This is what happens when you ignore the original version of the games you play. Super Mario: Yossy Island was never the sequel to Super Mario World (which is, actually, Super Mario Bros. 4). That "Super Mario World 2" subtitle was another brilliant idea from Nintendo of America to obtain better profits.

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This is what happens when you ignore the original version of the games you play. Super Mario: Yossy Island was never the sequel to Super Mario World (which is, actually, Super Mario Bros. 4). That "Super Mario World 2" subtitle was another brilliant idea from Nintendo of America to obtain better profits.

Is Super Mario World called SMB4 in Japan?
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This is what happens when you ignore the original version of the games you play. Super Mario: Yossy Island was never the sequel to Super Mario World (which is, actually, Super Mario Bros. 4). That "Super Mario World 2" subtitle was another brilliant idea from Nintendo of America to obtain better profits.
You know how you spent that one thread saying you call it "Yossy Island" cause that's what it says on your cart?

Well, guess what is says on my cart, genius.
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Burn. Anyways, I like to think of YI as SMW 2, if nothing else, because it gives it the ever-cool title of Super Mario Advance 2: Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2.
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Is Super Mario World called SMB4 in Japan?
Yep. Super Mario Bros. 4: Super Mario World.

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You know how you spent that one thread saying you call it "Yossy Island" cause that's what it says on your cart?

Well, guess what is says on my cart, genius.
That's why I'm trying to illuminate you by saying that your game is not the ORIGINAL version and what the original author wanted it to be.

Kids these days.
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That's why I'm trying to illuminate you by saying that your game is not the ORIGINAL version and what the original author wanted it to be.
And I'm trying to illuminate you by saying I could give a fuck what the game was originally called in Japan. I already knew it wasn't SMW2 but amazingly enough didn't feel the need to go all elitist and tell everyone in this thread how wrong they were for refering to it by the name clearly written on their cart.

The American cart could be titled "Yoshi Poops on Your Head" and it would play exactly the same. And that's all I care about.
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That's why I'm trying to illuminate you by saying that your game is not the ORIGINAL version and what the original author wanted it to be.

Kids these days.
Perhaps you've heard of Shaman King, a manga that has been getting released in the States as of late. Before it was picked up by an official publication I read a lot of it through fan translation and no one could figure out a constant name. It kept changing from Rufi to Ruffy to Lufi and so on depending on who did it, and the official one uses Luffy. The pronounciation stays the same according to Japanese, but which spelling is the one the author intended?

Point is, name changes happen in translation, sometimes because they have to. In the DBZ movie The World's Strongest they slightly change a character's name because the Japanese one sounds absolutely retarded to English speakers. "Yossi" doesn't work nearly as well in English as "Yoshi." You can say that the original name was Yossi all you want but if you're not speaking the original language there really isn't any point to such a minor change, and actually using your voice with it just makes you sound dumb. Say it out loud, it's silly.
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I already knew it wasn't SMW2 but amazingly enough didn't feel the need to go all elitist and tell everyone in this thread how wrong they were for refering to it by the name clearly written on their cart.
It's not a matter of elitism more than an accuracy one. Some people here were asking why the game was called SMW2, so you kid, as knowledgeable as you are, should try to be more informative next time.

Now everybody here knows that SMW2 was not more than a comercial invention.
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Old 03-30-2004, 02:29 PM
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Now everybody here knows that SMW2 was not more than a comercial invention.
Oh, the irony.
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Perhaps you've heard of Shaman King, a manga that has been getting released in the States as of late. Before it was picked up by an official publication I read a lot of it through fan translation and no one could figure out a constant name. It kept changing from Rufi to Ruffy to Lufi and so on depending on who did it, and the official one uses Luffy. The pronounciation stays the same according to Japanese, but which spelling is the one the author intended?

Point is, name changes happen in translation, sometimes because they have to. In the DBZ movie The World's Strongest they slightly change a character's name because the Japanese one sounds absolutely retarded to English speakers. "Yossi" doesn't work nearly as well in English as "Yoshi." You can say that the original name was Yossi all you want but if you're not speaking the original language there really isn't any point to such a minor change, and actually using your voice with it just makes you sound dumb. Say it out loud, it's silly.
Do you know what? I always hated DBZ.
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That "Super Mario World 2" subtitle was another brilliant idea from Nintendo of America to obtain better profits.
Damn right! No way NoA should try to sell more of a great game!

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Do you know what? I always hated DBZ.
Now that I can agree with.

Anyway, we've beat the dead Yossy quite enough already, let's drop it.
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It's not a matter of elitism more than an accuracy one.
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You non-Japanophiles obviously don't know much about Japanese language
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Next time, get better informed before making categorical asseverations.
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