Best Versions of Games.

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30 Oct 2002, 12:05 PM
Master

Best Versions of Games.

OK, the official list will go here. Post if there is something here that you don't agree with, or if you have something to add.

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Multi-Platform Best Versions Game Title Available On Best On Why Alone in the Dark 3DO,GBC, 3DO ?????????? MAC,PC Castlevania: SOTN PS,SS PS Visuals, though less levels Diablo PC,PS PC Mouse Control, Visuals, etc Dracula X PS,SS,SNES, TCD/DUO ?????????? TCD/DUO Earthworm Jim GB,GBA,GBC, GEN(tie) Extra Level, No Loading GEN,GG,PC, SCD(tie) Extra Levels, Sound SNES,SCD SNES(tie) Graphics, No loading Earthworm Jim 2 GBA,GEN,PC, SS ?????????? PS,SS,SCD, SNES Final Fight SCD,SNES, X68K 2 Players, Guy, more stages, X68K no lag, good audio FreekStyle GC,PS2,XB GC ?????????? GTA III PC,PS2 PC Visuals, Online Hack, Mods KOF '95 PS,SS SS Animation, Combos Lion King GEN,SNES SNES Graphics, Sound Mortal Kombat GEN,SNES, GEN(tie) Blood, control SCD SCD(tie) AsAbove + sound, but loading SNES(tie) Graphics Mortal Kombat 32X,GEN, 32X Control, graphics, sound, SNES,SS No load times NBA Street GC,PS2,XB GC ?????????? NFS Hot Pursuit 2 GC,PS2,XB PS2 ?????????? NHL 94 GEN,SCD,SNES SCD Sound Out of this World 3DO,Amiga, 3DO ?????????? C64,GEN,MAC, Od2,PC,SCD, SNES Pac-Mania GBA,GEN, X68K Graphics, Screen size, Music X68K Pu-Li-Ru-La PS,SS SS Frame Rate Rez DC,PS2 PS2 Trance Vibrator? Snatcher MSX2,PCE, SCD English PS,SCD,SS Spy Hunter GC,PS2,XB PS2 ?????????? SSX Tricky GC,PS2,XB PS2 Stability, Controls Star Control 2 3DO,PC 3DO ?????????? Sunset Riders GEN,SNES SNES ?????????? Timesplitters 2 GC,PS2,XB GC(tie) Better Colors XB(tie) Sound (5.1) TonyHawkProSkater3 GC,PS2,XB XB(tie) Cust. Soundtrack, 480P TonyHawkProSkater4 GC,PS2,XB PS2(tie) Online Play XB(tie) Cust. Soundtrack, 480P Virtual On PC,SS PC Visuals, Gameplay
30 Oct 2002, 12:07 PM
DacaZ

Timesplitters 2... Gamecube or Xbox. The trade-off appears to be in the audio/video department. XB has the better audio, but some say the colors look washed out.
30 Oct 2002, 12:12 PM
Kidnemo

THPS4:

xbox - create your own soundtrack and upload it to the HD.

PS2 - Online play. The game was made for this controller, and to this day still plays the best on it.

GC - No advantage that I know of. Atleast you can use the wavebird which is wireless, but the Dual Shock is still superior.
30 Oct 2002, 12:13 PM
Despair

I heard that Xbox version of TS2 is better in co-op mode, with better frame rate.

Not sure about Cube version.
30 Oct 2002, 12:42 PM
Kbu Chan

We played Cube Timesplitters 3-way multiplayer and had no slowdown. I would bet that the Cube has a better framerate than the XBox version although I haven't seen it yet.
30 Oct 2002, 12:54 PM
DacaZ

So long as we're on the subject of Best Versions... besides Spy Hunter and NFS Hot Pursuit 2, are there any other multiplatform games that are actually best on the PS2?
30 Oct 2002, 01:01 PM
Despair

Well, Are the Xbox and Cube versions of Two Towers are out? Just want to know how they compare to PS2 version, which is great.
30 Oct 2002, 09:48 PM
DHG Otaku

SSX Tricky is best overall on PS2. Most stable.
30 Oct 2002, 09:57 PM
Diff-chan

Lion King-
SNES - better, crisper graphics and better sound
Genesis - worse graphics and worse sound
Winner: SNES

Earthworm Jim-
SNES - smooth watercolory graphics, very nice!
Genesis - One extra level
Winner: toss-up, but Im only saying that because I had the SNES version when I was a kid.

Aladdin-
SNES: Made my Capcom. Fun game. Collect a lot of fruits. Didnt really stick to the movie that well.
Genesis: Made by Shiny. Very fun game. You get a sword. More faithful to the movie. Had a fun mini-game. Harder than the SNES one.
Winner: Genesis.

Diablo-
PC - very addictive, good mouse control, multiplayer! But with hacks. :(
PlayStation - 2 player max. Sucks shit.
Winner: PC

Mortal Kombat-
SNES-very nice graphics, poor control, no blood, loser fatalities
Genesis-uncensored, good control, but inferior graphics to SNES.
Game Boy - black & white, looks like ass.
Winner: Genesis

NBA Jam-
Who the fuck cares, all the versions were exactly the same.
31 Oct 2002, 03:01 PM
TobalRox

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Originally posted by diffusionx
Lion King-
SNES - better, crisper graphics and better sound
Genesis - worse graphics and worse sound
Winner: SNES

If you have/had a 32x and played the Genesis version, it was one of the few games that actually looked better, pretty much on par with the SNES version. The Wolverine game was another like that I hear.

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Originally posted by diffusionx
Earthworm Jim-
SNES - smooth watercolory graphics, very nice!
Genesis - One extra level
Winner: toss-up, but Im only saying that because I had the SNES version when I was a kid.

Don't forget the Sega CD version... even more extras.

Quote:

Originally posted by diffusionx
Mortal Kombat-
SNES-very nice graphics, poor control, no blood, loser fatalities
Genesis-uncensored, good control, but inferior graphics to SNES.
Game Boy - black & white, looks like ass.
Winner: Genesis

Again, Sega CD version was better, except for Shang Tsung matches.
31 Oct 2002, 07:19 PM
Diff-chan

The SegaCD can kiss my ass.
31 Oct 2002, 07:26 PM
sleeve

That's the diffx I know and love.

As for TS2 on Xbox, the colors look fine on my RGB display, no washout whatsoever. Plus there's the advantage of saving your maps to the hard drive. The multiplayer frame rate is flawless, and the load times are quite reasonable.

Has anyone noticed slowdown in THPS4 on PS2 versus the XB and GC versions? Slowdown was a big problem in THPS3 on PS2 and figured largely in my decision not to buy it.
31 Oct 2002, 07:37 PM
EThugg

THPS4- If you want to play online, PS2. Otherwise, Xbox.

TS2- Xbox in every way.

Mortal Kombat 1- Sega CD
MK2- 32X
Trilogy- PSX

Lion King and EWJ- They were the same on both systems, SNES ver. were not better in anyway for either game.
31 Oct 2002, 07:41 PM
gameoverDude

Pu-Li-Ru-La (PS & Saturn)
*The PS version runs at a lower frame rate. Saturn wins given that everything else is identical between the two.

KOF'95 (PS & Saturn)
*The Saturn version looks generally identical to the Neo-Geo one. The PS version suffers animation cuts (your fighters on the sidelines don't animate, frames missing here & there, etc), lousy CPU opponents (even on level 8, they fight like CPU Dan from SFA1), and combos that shouldn't happen.
Winner- Saturn

Pac-Mania (X68000, Genesis, GBA)
X68000- Perfect all around.
Genesis- The graphics don't even attempt to resemble the arcade. BGM is damn close and features the full tracks.
GBA- Graphics are like the arcade, but the screen size is cut. The BGM tracks are shortened.
Winner- X68000

Final Fight (X68000, SNES, Sega CD)
X68000- Perfect as expected.
SNES- Only one player at a time. Guy is gone, and so is Rolento's whole stage.
Sega CD- Sharply reduced color palette, scratchy audio, and lag hell (you can not punch like mad as in the arcade one). The redbook soundtrack isn't bad.
Winner: X68000
31 Oct 2002, 08:10 PM
Shooting Love

Sunset Riders on SNES (over Genesis)

TobalRox,
the SegaCD version of Earthworn Jim sucks ass. There is loading in the middle of levels, like you're running, then all of a sudden: Loading. Why would you want this when you can play the cart fluidly, and not to mention the redbbok audio was too crisp, the coded BGM was much more fitting.

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Originally posted by DacaZ
So long as we're on the subject of Best Versions... besides Spy Hunter and NFS Hot Pursuit 2, are there any other multiplatform games that are actually best on the PS2?

Rez
31 Oct 2002, 08:13 PM
EThugg

Yup, Rez was best on PS2. SSX Tricky... ummm...
31 Oct 2002, 09:03 PM
DHG Otaku

Tricky has better textures on the Xbox but the frame rate is even more eradic than the PS2 one...thus I take stability/gameplay over slightly nicer textures...
31 Oct 2002, 09:08 PM
Videodrone

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Originally posted by diffusionx
The SegaCD can kiss my ass.

dem fightn' werds...
don't crack my fmv game playing machine...
31 Oct 2002, 09:09 PM
EThugg

Tricky controls better on PS2 as well...
31 Oct 2002, 09:10 PM
Tain

If we can throw in any game...

Virtual On -
Saturn: Bad visuals, completely different gameplay.
PC: The PC Twinsticks aren't as easy to find, laggy netplay. Better visuals, better gameplay.

PC.

Snatcher -
Sega CD: English :). Voice acting, better visuals. Terrible ending.
PC Engine: See above, but ignore the "English" part.
MSX2/PC88: Not as bad of an ending? I hope so.

I wanna play through the MSX2 version.

GTA3 -
PS2: "Standard" game.
PC: High requirements, but mod-friendly, and has a WASD option.

PC wins this one, in my opinion.
01 Nov 2002, 04:37 PM
Soviet_Commando

The gamecube version of anything for the simple reason it comes on a small DVD. Hail the "hucard" for the 21st century.
02 Nov 2002, 04:51 AM
SpoDaddy

TS2 is clearly best on Cube, the PS2 version can't compete with the Cube and Xbox versions, and the Xbox version can't match the texture quality in places and framerate in multiplayer/some areas in single player of the Cube version, and in places the colors do look washed out on Xbox (not to the degree of the PS2 version though). The Xbox version has better audio options, but I'll take better framerate and textures and color over slightly better audio.

Tony 4 is best on Cube, you can play with a Wavebird. Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games. Second, Tony has like 40 music tracks so if any game was made for you to listen to it's music it's Tony 4. Also, who the hell cares about online play in a Tony game, the only multiplayer fun I've ever had with a Tony game is sitting with a friend taking turns doing 2 minute runs.

Earthworm Jim on Genesis slaughters the SNES version, Aladdin on Genesis slaughters the SNES version, Street Fighter 2 plays better on Genesis (more arcade accurate gameplay) plus the Genny 6 button pad kills the SNES pad for Street Fighter. SNES' processor was so slow that games just didn't play as well on it as on Genesis. Go back and play them side by side if you're looking at it through rose colored glasses and disagree. SNES was prettier and sounded much better but that system chugged like crazy, Genesis was something like 5 times faster. And it came out 2 years earlier than SNES too, Nintendo really skimped when it came to the SNES processor. And I think it's pretty obvious that the Genny versions of Castlevania and Contra were superior in gameplay, and in fact made the SNES versions look like gussied up whores. Long live Genesis.
02 Nov 2002, 06:06 AM
Shooting Love

so Master,
we sorta got off the topic of your original post, eh?
Funny how it trailed back to testimonial about witch EWJ was better, along with other long since beaten horses
Gaming is indeed entering another golden age...
Not since the Genesis/SNES rivalry have we had to debate the merits of damn near identical games
02 Nov 2002, 11:17 AM
SearchManX

How's Robotech: Battlecry? I'm guessing graphics-wise the PS2 will be behind the GC and Xbox version. I'm wondering how well the GC version controls...
02 Nov 2002, 12:08 PM
Will

So far the Cube versions of NBA Street and Freakstyle are the best with improved graphics and all.

From what I saw on IGN regarding X-men Next Dimension the Cube version is the version to get despite the X-Box version's extra character 'Pyro'.
Cube version has slightly better graphics(smoother than the PS2 yet not blurry), Time attack which isn't on the PS2 version not sure of the X-Box one and that's pretty much it on that game.
02 Nov 2002, 01:11 PM
Master

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Originally posted by SpoDaddy
Tony 4 is best on Cube, you can play with a Wavebird. Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games. Second, Tony has like 40 music tracks so if any game was made for you to listen to it's music it's Tony 4. Also, who the hell cares about online play in a Tony game, the only multiplayer fun I've ever had with a Tony game is sitting with a friend taking turns doing 2 minute runs.

I find that har to believe. Tony 3 sucked on the cube because it suffered from massive slowdown that wasn't present on the Xbox rev. I think I'll wait for a second opinion (no offense). Is the slowdown still a problem? If I am not playing online, what version of THPS4 is the best?
02 Nov 2002, 01:44 PM
Sl1p

Nothing specific, but if it was on PC first, and then ported to a console...the PC version is always better. :p
02 Nov 2002, 01:48 PM
Yoshi

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Originally posted by SpoDaddy
Long live Genesis.

Amen to that.
02 Nov 2002, 02:23 PM
Will

Quote:

Originally posted by Master
I find that har to believe. Tony 3 sucked on the cube because it suffered from massive slowdown that wasn't present on the Xbox rev. I think I'll wait for a second opinion (no offense). Is the slowdown still a problem? If I am not playing online, what version of THPS4 is the best?

I didn't notice massive slowdown, which skate park had this?
02 Nov 2002, 06:54 PM
Mzo

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Nothing specific, but if it was on PC first, and then ported to a console...the PC version is always better.

It's so true.
02 Nov 2002, 06:57 PM
Tain

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I find that har to believe. Tony 3 sucked on the cube because it suffered from massive slowdown that wasn't present on the Xbox rev. I think I'll wait for a second opinion (no offense). Is the slowdown still a problem? If I am not playing online, what version of THPS4 is the best?

I'm renting THPS4, at the moment. Not a bit of slowdown on the 'box version. Control is great, and I'm skating to Guitar Vader.

Current mood: :)
03 Nov 2002, 12:05 AM
TobalRox

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Originally posted by Core Boy
Sunset Riders on SNES (over Genesis)

TobalRox,
the SegaCD version of Earthworn Jim sucks ass. There is loading in the middle of levels, like you're running, then all of a sudden: Loading. Why would you want this when you can play the cart fluidly, and not to mention the redbbok audio was too crisp, the coded BGM was much more fitting.

Rez

Guess I just got used to Redbook and load times with my Sega CD, so always prefered their versions over others :D
03 Nov 2002, 01:44 AM
SpoDaddy

Earthworm Jim Special Edition on Sega CD is the best version of the game. Long live Sega CD!
03 Nov 2002, 09:54 AM
Despair

Quote:

Originally posted by Sl1p
Nothing specific, but if it was on PC first, and then ported to a console...the PC version is always better. :p

Except for Max Payne for Xbox. Other than lack of Mods(and mouse) created later on, Xbox version is superior to PC one.
03 Nov 2002, 11:32 AM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by Soviet_Commando
The gamecube version of anything for the simple reason it comes on a small DVD. Hail the "hucard" for the 21st century.

This is going to be a shocker (really) to everyone, but I have to disagree with you. All else being equal, the Xbox version is the best, because of the esentally limitless save space on the hard drive. For games that make you want to create many save files, it's a God send.
03 Nov 2002, 05:18 PM
Soviet_Commando

Quote:

Originally posted by Soviet_Commando
The gamecube version of anything for [b]the simple reason it comes on a small DVD[b]. Hail the "hucard" for the 21st century.

In terms of technical superiority Xbox wins of course because of HD,newer technology,etc...

but...

Gamecube version is still better just because of that little DVD disc. You look at it and say "There is no way a good game could be on such a tiny little disc". But it is.
09 Nov 2002, 11:57 AM
LiquidSnake

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Snatcher -
Sega CD: English . Voice acting, better visuals. Terrible ending.
PC Engine: See above, but ignore the "English" part.
MSX2/PC88: Not as bad of an ending? I hope so.

The Sega CD had a TERRIBLE ending??!!! That's one of the best endings in a game! It's cool how everything wasn't wrapped up in a nice neat ending...all you know is that he was off to Russia to find the factory..The PC-E, Saturn, PSX and Sega CD versions all have nearly the same ending, except on the Sega CD version they go into more detail, thus it has THE most complete ending out of all the versions...On both PC versions, the game ended at Act 2 , so if you actually disliked the console endings, you will REALLY hate those :)

LS
09 Nov 2002, 12:04 PM
MVS

Spo thinks 2 recent games are best on the gc?!?!?

Now I've heard everything.

/me rolls eyes...
09 Nov 2002, 04:47 PM
MechDeus

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Originally posted by Despair
Except for Max Payne for Xbox. Other than lack of Mods(and mouse) created later on, Xbox version is superior to PC one.

And graphics. So... how is the XBox version superior? Granted, I only finished the game because the Ultimate Mod made it a whole lot more fun (they had some cheap-ass stuff later on).
09 Nov 2002, 05:20 PM
Tain

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The Sega CD had a TERRIBLE ending??!!! That's one of the best endings in a game! It's cool how everything wasn't wrapped up in a nice neat ending...all you know is that he was off to Russia to find the factory..The PC-E, Saturn, PSX and Sega CD versions all have nearly the same ending, except on the Sega CD version they go into more detail, thus it has THE most complete ending out of all the versions...On both PC versions, the game ended at Act 2 , so if you actually disliked the console endings, you will REALLY hate those

I guess that it's not the ending itself as much as it is the fact that there isn't much of a chance of seeing a conclusion to the story. The ending was pretty good, yes, but I can't stand being left with the story at such an open position.

As for the MSX and PC88 versions... The ending sucks? I figured it would be somewhat similar, only without the whole Moscow thing.
09 Nov 2002, 05:48 PM
PaCrappa

I've played THPS4 extensively for both GCN and PS2. The GCN version has wicked chunky slowdown and the PS2 version does not. Which stinks for me because I prefer to give my money to Nintendo if a game that I desire will be released on all major platforms. So now I must sell my GCN version and buy the PS2 one.

Pa

LOL, I just read the actual contents of this thread. I would like to suggest an optometrist for anyone who was unable to see the HEINOUS slowdown throughout THPS 3 on PS2 and GCN.
09 Nov 2002, 06:43 PM
Master

Have you played the Xbox version Pa?
09 Nov 2002, 07:21 PM
xS

Quote:

Originally posted by SpoDaddy
And I think it's pretty obvious that the Genny versions of Castlevania and Contra were superior in gameplay, and in fact made the SNES versions look like gussied up whores. Long live Genesis.

I like Contra :HC more than Contra 3 , but Bloodlines doesn't even come close to Castlevania 4.It's still a great game though.
09 Nov 2002, 07:26 PM
PaCrappa

Heh, you know me man. Still a "hater" ;o) I'd love to though and I still cling to my copy of 2X for that shining day that the XBOX presents me with a "killer app". My money says it'll be Orta, but we'll see.

Can anyone tell me the differences between Black Matrix on Saturn and Black Matrix AD on the DC? I hear that the DC one has a bit more FMV and some remixing of the environments but the game is really the same. What I really want to know: Did the loadtimes get any improvement? The SS version takes days....

Pa
09 Nov 2002, 07:32 PM
Brisco Bold

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Originally posted by xS
... but Bloodlines doesn't even come close to Castlevania 4.

I thought this thread was about the best version of games. Those are two fucking different games.
09 Nov 2002, 07:33 PM
xS

I know ......Spo brought the topic up in his post.
09 Nov 2002, 07:44 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally posted by SpoDaddy

Tony 4 is best on Cube, you can play with a Wavebird. Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games. Second, Tony has like 40 music tracks so if any game was made for you to listen to it's music it's Tony 4.

Some of the tracks in the TH games are downright awful. The track selection seems to have been made with a pair of dice and good intentions. I'll take the option of creating my own soundtrack, thank you. Playing TH 2X ,3, and 4 with tunes from JGR and JSRF, as well as any song you want to rip to the HD is hella better than some generic soundtrack filled with the requisite punk and ska songs developers think EVERY sports game must have.

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, who the hell cares about online play in a Tony game, the only multiplayer fun I've ever had with a Tony game is sitting with a friend taking turns doing 2 minute runs.

What do you do when you want to play and said friend isn't around? Online play is perfect for those who want to compete but want all the Doritos and Mountain Dew for themselves! :D

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Earthworm Jim on Genesis slaughters the SNES version

Sega CD all the way baby!

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Aladdin on Genesis slaughters the SNES version, Street Fighter 2 plays better on Genesis (more arcade accurate gameplay) plus the Genny 6 button pad kills the SNES pad for Street Fighter.

Hell yes.

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I think that it's pretty obvious that the Genny versions of Castlevania and Contra were superior in gameplay, and in fact made the SNES versions look like gussied up whores.

:wtf: Umm, what? Castlevania 4 on SNES is a work of art, my friend. The music, classic Castlevania gameplay, special effects. It's all good. Add the fact that Simon's whip is the only on in the whole series WORTH A DAMN and you've got the better of the two. Bloodlines was cool but the graphics were just horrible. And the music....

I'd have to say that I love both Contra 3 and Hard Corps equally. Any good 2D Contra game is never one too many. :D
09 Nov 2002, 07:55 PM
xS

How were the psx/saturn versions of EWJ?
09 Nov 2002, 07:57 PM
Melf

I don't know about any other, but the Saturn version of EWJ 2 was awesome. Great music, graphics and parallax, and the dreamy Saturn pad. :) I'm currently looking for a copy.
10 Nov 2002, 12:02 AM
SpoDaddy

Castlvania 4 had the "classic" Castlevania gameplay? What game did you play, I played the easy one where you can 8 way whip. In terms of true to the original NES games' gameplay Bloodlines is far closer. I think people really don't judge 4 objectively, because at the time the game came out the music and mode 7 rotation stuff was so unbelievable. Look back on it now though, the gameplay really isn't as good as Bloodlines.
10 Nov 2002, 07:20 AM
xS

Castlevania 4 has superior level design , better music ,better control,the 8 way whip , better bosses ,a shitload of unforgettable moments ,and it takes place in Castlevania , not some gay strip joint.

I also like Bloodlines , but it's not as good as other Castlevania's.
09 Apr 2003, 12:01 AM
Will

Hah! Found the thread.
09 Apr 2003, 12:02 AM
kingoffighters

NHL 94 is best on the Sega CD... cooler sound.
09 Apr 2003, 12:05 AM
Jeremy

Aladdin on the SNES and Genesis are two totally separate games...
09 Apr 2003, 02:51 AM
magnifiedplaid

As far as the Castlevania argument goes, I will pick Super Castlevania 4 over Bloodlines any day of the week. The main reason I pick it is because it has some of the most memorable moments in any Castlevania game, and it includes my favorite Castlevania level. That would be level 8...that is the dungeon level where you fight Frankenstein at the end. That level just rocks! I love all the traps and the disappearing floors at the end!
09 Apr 2003, 03:32 AM
Gecco

Since this is back up shouldn't we combine the two threads and make it a sticky? Just a thought because it seems like there are some similar comparisons of games going on.
09 Apr 2003, 10:16 AM
MonsterMash

SpoDaddy should be banned from this thread.

Quote:

Originally posted by Gecco
make it a sticky?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally posted by Gecco
combine the two threads?

Yes.
09 Apr 2003, 02:56 PM
Master

By popular demand, it is sticky.
09 Apr 2003, 03:01 PM
JBNagis

SOOOO,What version of Soul Calibur II will you be getting.i will pick up the XBox version.Becus a)I don't have a gamecube b)Hieachi(sp) fighting people who could dismember him in a second(Knightmare) just doesn't add up.and C)Spawn kicks ass.

Words from the Big Black Guy,
JBNagis
09 Apr 2003, 03:20 PM
Regus

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Tony 4 is best on Cube, you can play with a Wavebird. Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games. Second, Tony has like 40 music tracks so if any game was made for you to listen to it's music it's Tony 4. Also, who the hell cares about online play in a Tony game, the only multiplayer fun I've ever had with a Tony game is sitting with a friend taking turns doing 2 minute runs.

Ha ha ha!

Okay, were to begin.

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Tony 4 is best on Cube, you can play with a Wavebird.

WOW, what a great reason! First off, this is something that has nothing to do with the actual game, so it's hardly the best reason to get the GC version. Which controller you'd rather use when playing a THPS game is definetly a personal preference. I prefer the PS2's controller, only becauase I use the Dpad to do all my moves, and as we all know, the GC's Dpad is worthless.

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Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games.

The people who care about this are the people who easily grow tired of, or simply do not like the music in the soundtrack, which isn't so far fetched.

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Tony has like 40 music tracks so if any game was made for you to listen to it's music it's Tony 4.

I liked THPS4's soundtrack, but that doesn't mean I like all the songs on it. I turned off more than half of them, leaving me with a very small playlist. A lot of the songs on it really do suck, especially the MuskaBeatz songs. I wouldn't mind being able to add my own tunes.

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Also, who the hell cares about online play in a Tony game

This doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response.

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the only multiplayer fun I've ever had with a Tony game is sitting with a friend taking turns doing 2 minute runs.

The reason why that's the only "multiplayer fun you've ever had", is because that's all there ever was! :rolleyes:
09 Apr 2003, 03:28 PM
Jeremy

About why someone would use a custom soundtrack- why the hell would I want to listen to my stereo during play when it would probably drown out the sound effects? And, even if I turn it low enough to hear the sound effects, I'm left with also hearing the game's soundtrack, which, since I've got my stereo turned on, I want to avoid.
09 Apr 2003, 04:21 PM
Kbu Chan

"I prefer the PS2's controller, only becauase I use the Dpad to do all my moves, and as we all know, the GC's Dpad is worthless."

I know the GC version of TH is not the one to get, but the GC actually has a Dpad and the PS2 has 4 pellets.
09 Apr 2003, 04:34 PM
Jeremy

Those four "pellets" are still more comfortable than the GC's d-pad.
09 Apr 2003, 04:45 PM
kingoffighters

Another one from Captain Obvious.... Dracula X on Duo :D
09 Apr 2003, 04:46 PM
Jeremy

Oh, and for simplicity's sake, always go with SNES versions of games instead of Genesis versions.
09 Apr 2003, 04:51 PM
kingoffighters

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy
Oh, and for simplicity's sake, always go with SNES versions of games instead of Genesis versions.

Except for EA Sports games
09 Apr 2003, 05:29 PM
burgundy

Quote:

Originally posted by JBNagis
SOOOO,What version of Soul Calibur II will you be getting.
JBNagis

<---------

Take a guess. :lol:

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Originally posted by Jeremy
Those four "pellets" are still more comfortable than the GC's d-pad.

I don't know shit about Tony Hawk, but I use the analog stick to play every GB game I own and I have nary a problem.
09 Apr 2003, 06:39 PM
James

Star Control 2 on 3DO blew the PC version out of the water.

Now that I'm thinking 3DO, the version of Starfighter on 3DO beat out all other versions too. Didn't help that all other versions were pretty horrible, though.

James
09 Apr 2003, 06:51 PM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy
Oh, and for simplicity's sake, always go with SNES versions of games instead of Genesis versions.

If you want to use one of the worst controllers ever conceived instead of one of the best. But, hey, graphics are the only thing that matter, right? :rolleyes:
09 Apr 2003, 07:39 PM
Jeremy

The sound on many of the games is also superior. I liked the SNES controller more than the Genny one, by the way.
09 Apr 2003, 07:44 PM
Mr_Furious

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Star Control 2 on 3DO blew the PC version out of the water.

Now that I'm thinking 3DO, the version of Starfighter on 3DO beat out all other versions too. Didn't help that all other versions were pretty horrible, though.

James

I'll also add the Out Of This World and Alone In The Dark were also better on the 3DO.
09 Apr 2003, 07:44 PM
xS

Earthworm Jim was done better on the Genesis wasn't it? the 32 bit ports are the best anyways.
09 Apr 2003, 07:48 PM
Regus

Quote:

Originally posted by burgundy

I don't know shit about Tony Hawk, but I use the analog stick to play every GB game I own and I have nary a problem.

In order to do the special moves in THPS, you have to preform quick button taps, like

Up , Up
Right, Down
Down, Left

etc

And these are things that you have to do very quickly, and repeatedly if want to score big. And this is something that I find extremely uncomfortable using analog controlls.

Quote:

I know the GC version of TH is not the one to get, but the GC actually has a Dpad and the PS2 has 4 pellets.

In case you didn't realize, the PS2's D-Pad is not comprised of four seperate buttons. Take a look at it, if ever happen to have one in your general vicinity. When you press on button, the whole thing moves.
09 Apr 2003, 08:29 PM
amitavc

dumb comparison of the day:
Symphony of the Night PSX vs. Saturn

Saturn: Version comes replete with three selectable characters from the start, (Alucard, Richter and Maria(?))
and at least 2 xtra levels i know of. BUT it also comes with more slowdown, grainier graphics, no transparencies, and general sense of a rushed port.

PSX: while not having the xtra 2 levels (hardly worth it) or the initial three characters to select from (to get Richter the game needed to be beaten with a certain percentage and then started with a new game choosing the name "RICHTER") however, it was as beautiful as the Saturn version was not. definitely and easily the superior version.
09 Apr 2003, 08:38 PM
Regus

Don't forget that the "loading" rooms don't work in the Saturn version.
09 Apr 2003, 08:43 PM
jyoung

Regus already stole my thunder about Spodaddy's other points, so I'll just add my two cents the glaring flaw in his argument.

Quote:

Originally posted by Spodaddy
Who cares about the custom soundtrack feature, first of all I don't understand why people care at all and don't just listen to their stereo when they play games.

Guess what's the only reason I don't own a copy of Aggressive Inline for the GC. That's right, it's the soundtrack. Gameplay wise, AI is the best extreme sports game currently available, but I just cannot play the game for extended periods of time listening to shit like P.O.D, Saliva, etc. The only songs I deemed "listenable" on AI were the tunes from Boy Hits Car and Reel Big Fish. And naturally, after listening to the same two songs over and over again, I'm bound to become jaded.

Sure, I could just turn on a stereo, but then I wouldn't be able to hear the sound effects. I could mute the BGM, but just like the turning off the SFX, doing so greatly detracts from the overall playing experience.

Conclusion?
1. I need an Xbox
2. Kicking Spodaddy in the balls is WELL worth $2
09 Apr 2003, 10:27 PM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr_Furious
I'll also add the Out Of This World and Alone In The Dark were also better on the 3DO.

And I'll agree with the both of you. :D
09 Apr 2003, 10:31 PM
Jeremy

The PSX versions of Return Fire, Road Rash, and Road and Track's Need for Speed reign supreme over their 3DO and Saturn counterparts. Also, the 3DO version of Samurai Showdown is the best of the bunch, with the Genesis version getting the second place nod. Being able to play the Genny version on the Nomad anywhere is a plus for the Genny version though.
09 Apr 2003, 10:34 PM
burgundy

Quote:

Originally posted by Yoshi
If you want to use one of the worst controllers ever conceived instead of one of the best. But, hey, graphics are the only thing that matter, right? :rolleyes:

The Genesis controller is one of the most god-awful pads I have ever touched.

Quote:

Originally posted by Regus
In case you didn't realize, the PS2's D-Pad is not comprised of four seperate buttons. Take a look at it, if ever happen to have one in your general vicinity. When you press on button, the whole thing moves.

I (at least) know that, but I think the plastic tabs over the diagonals are really uncomfortable and unnecessary.
09 Apr 2003, 10:48 PM
Kbu Chan

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Star Control 2 on 3DO blew the PC version out of the water.

Now that I'm thinking 3DO, the version of Starfighter on 3DO beat out all other versions too. Didn't help that all other versions were pretty horrible, though.

James

The PSX and Saturn versions look like ass compared to the 3DO. A lot of the 3DO games had draw distances that the other two 32bit systems could never match.

"In case you didn't realize, the PS2's D-Pad is not comprised of four seperate buttons. Take a look at it, if ever happen to have one in your general vicinity. When you press on button, the whole thing moves."-Regus

Yeah, I've got one between my Cube and XBox. 4 pellets alright. Speaking of DPads, what the hell is that weird thing on the XBox pad called, a wave pad? None of the current systems have a good enough pad on them for anyone to talk shit about what anyone else has. Actually, with as much criticism as the GC DPad gets, it's ironic that it's the only current system that actually has a DPad.
09 Apr 2003, 11:41 PM
Master

I made a list on the first page. Please look at it, its taking forever to make.

Thanks.

Also, from now on, to make this go faster, put them in the fashion that I did on the first page so I can copy and paste them from your post. Thanks.
10 Apr 2003, 12:36 AM
amitavc

Rez

PS2 vs. DC

PS2 had the benefit of a smoother framerate and the tranzvibrator. though it had a jaggier problem than the DC version. also the the DC version was boosted by the VGA support.

any corrections?
10 Apr 2003, 12:42 AM
kingoffighters

Dracula X was made for Duo and SNES.... I don't think they were made for SS/PSX... those are different Castlevanias. And Dx is better on the Duo b/c of... everything :)
10 Apr 2003, 01:22 AM
JefmcC

Dracula X: Rondo of Blood on Duo is not the same game as the SNES Dracula X.

How may times does it need to be said?
They are two totally different games!!!!
10 Apr 2003, 01:37 AM
Mr_Furious

Master, to answer your question marks regarding Out Of This World and Alone In The Dark for 3DO:

1) Both had graphic and audio overhauls (if I recall correctly. I know for a fact that OOTW did but not sure about AITD)

2) The inclusion of being able to use a controller (I don't remember the PC versions having this option)
10 Apr 2003, 03:26 AM
Jeremy

kbuchanan, a d-pad is more than just a 4-way directional cursor. By your logic, the Genesis' and Saturn's d-pads weren't actually d-pads.
10 Apr 2003, 04:00 AM
Opaque

Quote:

Originally posted by DHG Otaku
SSX Tricky is best overall on PS2. Most stable.

IMO the cube version looks and plays better, especially because of the controller..
10 Apr 2003, 04:12 AM
Mamoscott

Copied and pasted from my post in the other thread...

Here are some of my individual recommendations though:
Tiger Woods 2003 [Gamecube] - I think the Cube's controller fits the layout/controls of the game perfectly (regardless of whether or not you have a Wavebird). Plus the Cube version is cheaper too.

Aggressive Inline [Gamecube] - DON'T get the Cube port, because your saves will take up an absolutely ridiculous amount of space on your memory card. Whoever overlooked this in the Cube version should be shot. Go with the PS2 or Xbox for this one.

Time Splitters 2 [Gamecube] - I like the Gamecube version the most, because you don't have to buy a multitap, the graphics and frame rate are solid, and you can use Wavebirds.

Summoner: A Goddess Reborn [Gamecube] - An underrated game that's best on the Gamecube, but it may not be worth the extra cost since the game recently was released for the Cube. It's already hitting PS2 bargain bins (it's called Summoner 2 on PS2).
10 Apr 2003, 09:11 AM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy
The sound on many of the games is also superior. I liked the SNES controller more than the Genny one, by the way.

You liked the dogbone better than the Genny six-button? :wtf:
10 Apr 2003, 09:53 AM
Cheebs

Quote:

Originally posted by JefmcC
Dracula X: Rondo of Blood on Duo is not the same game as the SNES Dracula X.

How may times does it need to be said?
They are two totally different games!!!!

Thank you for pointing that out and saving me from having to go on a rant of my own. :)
10 Apr 2003, 02:16 PM
xS

DoDonPachi, Donpachi, Megaman X4, strikers 1945 II, rainbow islands: PSX>Saturn
Thunderforce 4, X men vs sf, soukygurentai, sfz3, vampire saviour: sat>psx

NFSHP2, Spy Hunter: ps2> other versions

Fatal Frame: XB>ps2
10 Apr 2003, 02:51 PM
BioMechanic

As good as Burnout 2 looks on the PS2, the Cube port looks even better. Everything's a bit smoother, there are more noticeable effects (sparks, tire smoke, etc), and most of the traffic looks clearer and more distinct (a definite plus). It's not a huge improvement - the PS2 Burnout is an amazing technical achievement - but it certainly makes a difference gameplay-wise.

I can also say that there are extra zones in Crash Mode (I think 15), and a couple added levels in Championship Mode. If there are more unlockables, I haven't found em yet (I want the Bus back!).

The Xbox port should be about the same as the Cube upgrade, except for the addition of custom soundtrack support, and the graphics will probably be a tad cleaner (I'm basing the graphical assumption on the ports of the original Burnout). It's due out at the end of April, so we'll know for sure then.

The Cube port is without question better than the PS2 rev, due to the improved visuals and extras. Unless Criterion screws up the Xbox port in some way (unlikely IMO), the custom soundtrack option would seem to give it the edge. Although the Cube port is $40, which means you're paying an extra $10 for the Xbox's soundtrack feature.

edit: While I'm at it, I should state that the GC/XB ports of the original Burnout are also better than the PS2 version. The visuals are markedly cleaner, and oncoming traffic is much easier to see (the PS2 rev suffered from practically invisible grey commuter cars which could impact gameplay severely - at times you couldn't avoid them in time to avoid a crash). No extras for the Cube & Box ports, but the upgraded graphics are a very significant improvement.

edit2: for Master's master list:

Burnout -PS2, GC, XB- -Best on GC/Xbox- -Cleaner visuals that improve gameplay-

I don't want to add Burnout 2 until the Xbox port is released.
10 Apr 2003, 04:27 PM
jyoung

Here's some updated NBA Street and Sunset Riders info. NBA Street did not come out for Xbox, and I've added the reasons why its better than the PS2 version.

NBA Street GC,PS2 GC Better Graphics, updated rosters, one new court

Sunset Riders SNES, Genesis SNES twice as many characters, better graphics
10 Apr 2003, 05:44 PM
MonsterMash

According to IGN, Splinter Cell is best on Xbox.

Game Title
Splinter Cell

Available On
PS2,GC,Xbox,PC

Best On
Xbox

Why
Graphics, load times, audio, difficulty
10 Apr 2003, 07:29 PM
Shin Johnpv

I personally think the SNES pad is one of the best pads ever

and i truly loathe the genny pad
the 6 button one is OK but not as good as the SNES pad

anyway i know alot of people here love Custom Soundtracks personally for ME its not worth it

why because 90% of the songs i listen to ive converted to MP3s and have all on my hard drive also i cant seem to find anyway to pick and match sounds from one cd youve dled to the XBox hard drive with another one

which makes it completely WORTHLESS to me
i dont want to listen to just say U2 when playing a game i want a mix and sorry its jsut not worth finding the right blank discs burning it at the right speed with the right program to then rip it to the Xbox hard drive and have one specific set of songs to play

fuck that shit

ill pick what songs i want to listen to hit play on win amp and turn the music off on my game

about 1000000000000000000000x easier for ME
10 Apr 2003, 07:43 PM
MonsterMash

You realize you can move tracks around right? So if you have U2, you can moves whatever songs you want to listen to over to your soundtrack file. So for each game you have you can make a file and put whatever songs you want to hear into it. Or just have one huge sountrack file (which is what I do.)
12 Apr 2003, 03:16 PM
Will

Quote:

Originally posted by Box Drink
IMO the cube version looks and plays better, especially because of the controller..

I've had both the GC and PS2 version(just PS2 version now) and the PS2 version is definitely better. It has more extras that the GC disc didn't have unfortunately and the character models look a bit more polished on the PS2 version. Also the clipping isn't as prevalent on faces like Elise's although clipping is still a bit of an issue in the PS2 version.

Quote:

According to IGN, Splinter Cell is best on Xbox.

Game Title
Splinter Cell

Available On
PS2,GC,Xbox,PC

Best On
Xbox

Why
Graphics, load times, audio, difficulty

It kind of seems to me the PS2 version has alot of cool stuff the others don't have like the exclusive level which is not in the X-Box downloadable, the 3 extra suits(masked Sam, sleeved costume, snow costume) and some other gadgets and things mixed around to make more sense. This is what I got from OPM and the developers themselves in that article.

The GC version has a really cool map that can be used with the GBA/GBA-SP and I think an added weapon when linked with the GBA Splinter Cell. What I think is cool about this is playing with the SP and light in the dark and checking your position while playing. If the GC version had the PS2 exclusive stuff it would be totally rad.
12 Apr 2003, 08:25 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally posted by MonsterMash
You realize you can move tracks around right? So if you have U2, you can moves whatever songs you want to listen to over to your soundtrack file. So for each game you have you can make a file and put whatever songs you want to hear into it. Or just have one huge sountrack file (which is what I do.)

i take it thats in the dash

ill have to play with it

id like to be able to pick and miz sound track lists in game when im playing

but like i said i have a few hundred songs on my Hard drive and ive done all that ripping once i dont think im going to do it again on my Xbox

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