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All I can say is...Brown?! Pfft.
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All I can say is...Brown?! Pfft.
yeah man, where's uc santa cruz?:D
I applied to Stanford and I didnt get in. I was crushed at first, but its not really that big of a deal anymore. Im very happy with where Im at.
And also its not the ten toughest colleges, its the ten toughest to get into.
And the Ivy League sucks.
i applied to Pittsburgh University today...
... i feel special
Top ten toughest colleges to get into in the U.S.?
Brown is a joke, but a lot of people still want to get into it. Still, I think this list is screwed up - isn't Harvard harder to get into than Princeton? And, what about CalTech and MIT?
I live down the street basically from Brown, and I can honestly say it isn't truly hard to get into Brown. I have a friend who just about bull shitted his way in.
Harvard is the toughest to get into..that's what I hear. Some say Cal Tech is harder to get into.
Princeton is the #1 overall college in the country.
No,Stone, Princeton is the hardest to get into, being the best school in the country and all. :)
Edit: Whoah, I must be drunk or something.
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Large schools suck. I'm in a sub-10k student school and I'm getting a better education that at the 40k student school down the street and the 50k student school I went to in another state. Why anyone would want to go to one of those is beyond me...
To each his own. I can say the exact reverse, the sub-10k school I went to was not as good as the plus-20k I am going to now. Small schools have their appeal, but some people prefer the big college atmosphere. I know Im one of them.Quote:
Originally posted by Lhadatt
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Large schools suck. I'm in a sub-10k student school and I'm getting a better education that at the 40k student school down the street and the 50k student school I went to in another state. Why anyone would want to go to one of those is beyond me...
Regus: GTA: VC is stunting your brain.
I dunno, in most cases, I'd agree that smaller schools are better. Fall, Freshman year, I went to a school with about 3,000 people, and it was nice to be able to recognize most faces by my second semester.
Left that school, went to a place with about 12,000 undergrads, and generally the size is a disadvantage. However, it does sometimes have the feel of a bunch of separate, smaller colleges just clustered together - I mainly encounter Arts and Sciences students on campus, and there are about 4,000 of us.
When I do venture out of the English department into classes with enrollment from multiple colleges, I kind of welcome it: it's nice to meet girls interested in the Hotel School, engineering chicks, Home Ec chicks, Agriculture, so on. The variety is refreshing - something I think I'd miss if I was only around girls in the humanities.
Eh, like I said Stone, to each his own. I went to a small university for 2 years and let me tell you I got real sick of seeing the same group of people after a while, especially if I didnt like them.
Maybe Cornell is split up like you describe, but I dunno, where I go (UCLA) everything seems integrated more. Maybe that will change as I go higher and higher up in my major, but thats to be expected. But the college I am in does feature everything from the life sciences to the humanities, so its just a big mess of people by default in the same college.
The big university vs. small university debate is about as useful and worthy as a PSX vs. N64 one. Everybody has their own opinion, as long as they like whatever college they are in thats all that matters.
I wonder what Regus originally posted.
At first I thought this was a list of the ten *toughest* schools in terms of academics, not admissions (in which case the inclusion of Brown would have been a complete joke). But yeah Stone, I guess Brown does get a lot of applicants.
As for the small school vs. big school debate, I went to a small school for undergrad (Amherst) and a large school for graduate school (University of Arizona) and I'm not sure which I prefer. A small school in a big city would be ideal; you'd get the small learning environment plus the change to move outside your pathetic little liberal arts circle.
Personally I could never stand to go to a large school for undergrad, at least not for the first couple years. I didn't want some grad school knucklehead teaching my introductory classes.
I live near Harvard, very near.
It truly is. They would only take one student from our high school every year. Only the graduating valedictorian. Thats it. We had people with 3.8 GPA's and the such applying, but if you weren't number one, you didn't get in.
Stanford is very tough, but imo no where near as tough as harvard.
Also I wash shocked to see Tufts university wasn't mentioned.
Ahh well, whatever, I live in the town where Tufts is, and I know two things about the school itself that you probably don't.
It is extremely hard to get into,
and where Jessica Biel lives.
I would say Harvard would have to be the hardest to get into. My older brother graduated Magna Kum Laude (or something like that), had the third highest GPA in his graduating class (only .1 less than the valedictorian's), and was captain of the debate team. Plus, he was graduating from Jesuit, one of the most prestigious private schools in Dallas, and he STILL wasn't accepted at Harvard.
Just about everyone else accepted him. Yale, Northwestern, Georgetown....he ended up going to Duke where he graduated near tops of his class there too and is now at NYU Law. And yes, on an academic level, my accomplishments are significantly inferior. There's no sibling rivalry there, because there has to be an actual competitive nature for there to be a rivalry, and I can't compete with him at all from an academic standpoint :sweat:
If you don't like BIG colleges- DON'T go to Rutgers.
We will destroy your soul...seriously.
salutatorian with a perfect score on the SAT didn't get into MIT from my school. i think you have to sell like 5 babies to get in there
the school you go to that has a better reputation will most likely get you a better job in the future..go to a community college as to harvard or what not, you'll probably have a better chance of getting a job if you went to a well-known school
*gazes into crystal ball*
this thread will turn into another "is college really that important?" thread...
Getting a 1600 on your SATs still wouldn't get you into Harvard.
If you're a virtuoso, you could probably get in.
Having perfect SATs or high GPAs doesn't mean shit when applying to top colleges.
Once you hit a certain GPA and SAT threshold, it all boils down to what kind of person you are, how well you write, and what your interests are. I didn't have perfect SAT scores, but I wrote some decent essays, did some theater, played in a professional jazz band, and wound up being accepted to just about every school I applied to.
Except for Stanford. Fuck 'em.
I got into all of the schools I applied to, but I only applied to three...wasn't really shooting that high. My GPA/class rank was abnormally bad (given my SAT scores and expectations of me), but my essays were very good, had a few interesting experiences: started a business, won a lot of stuff at Model Congresses, that sort of thing. I'm still surprised that I was able to get past my class rank - I think I was barely in the 20th percentile.
In another year or so when my g/f graduates we're thinking about moving so she can go to Havard.
I dunno how she got so learned, I just like to play them videro-grames...
Well Kidnemo, looks like you may have found yourself a breadwinner! Good job :lol:
Yea, she'll probably be making about a gazillion dollars when she graduates.Quote:
Originally posted by Zerodash
Well Kidnemo, looks like you may have found yourself a breadwinner! Good job :lol:
To bad after college, and medical school, will only owe about a gazillion dollars x2 for loans.
Not to mention she won't be done with school, internships, etc for like seven more years...
Where's MIT and Rice?
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Rice is good, but it's not that hard to get into, is it?
Pretty hard from my experience. Surely not the hardest, BTW - this is American schools only right? I'm thinking Cambridge is pretty tough to get into if it covers just all schools.
EDIT : Don't take my word for it, I'm an idiot.
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If USNews didnt charge for it now, you would be able to see the rankings from this year, and this includes acceptance rate. I am almost certain that Rice is in the top 20 lowest percent accepted, which makes it a hard school to get into. Its probably around 20-25%, which is very low. However, Stanford and Harvard hover around 11%. However they dont factor in the type of student that applies to Stanford and Harvard - undoubtedly, those schools are only accepting 11% of the cream of the crop every year.
From what Ive seen, I think the very first indicator of a college's quality is its admissions. If they have a low acceptance rate than the quality of student will be higher, which makes the school better overall.
MIT is in Boston.
On Mass Ave. heading out from Harvard university into Boston you go by MIT.
Berkley is also on the same street.
Tufts is on an adajacent street heading out from a different city.
Medford, somerville, and cambridge are massive college towns in between all of these schools.
I know the whole area if anyone wants to know anything about those four schools so let me know.
I can also show you where natalie (wooden actor) Portman, and Jessica (I'm a lush) Biel, live in harvard sq., and medford respectively if your just looking to stalk.
I have a few questions for you guys. Generally speaking, what's the most important thing needed to get into a good school? The guidance counselor says GPA and what you take are more important than the SATs. *sigh* He’s really pushing for everyone to start thinking about this stuff, but I really don’t care to. Also, what are some of the best schools? I really don't know, but I imagine I'd prefer something with a smaller population. No drunken frat party type stuff. I suppose it’s just my warped perception of college (thanks in large part to various forms of media), but is this type of activity generally inescapable at any school? :(
I know two girls from my high school who go to the hotel school at Cornell. Hotel school.... RIIIIGGGHHHTTT....Quote:
it's nice to meet girls interested in the Hotel School
Zerodash, make sure you guys give my lil' bro a warm welcome... he's a freshmen in high school now, but he's *probably* gonna end up at Rutgers New Brunswick.
I dunno man, they're hot. I'm taking a class on Insurance Law (for business purposes), taught by a Hotel School assistant professor...and there are a lot of hot chicks in it.Quote:
Originally posted by SearchManX
I know two girls from my high school who go to the hotel school at Cornell. Hotel school.... RIIIIGGGHHHTTT....
Werd.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
I dunno man, they're hot. I'm taking a class on Insurance Law (for business purposes), taught by a Hotel School assistant professor...and there are a lot of hot chicks in it.
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Rice is supposedly hard to get into actually, the dropout/suicide rate is quite ridiculously high as well. I personally have met over 10 rice dropouts who are now at the University of Houston.
You and Whose Army: Damn dude - thats some hella street - I'd personally be intimidated/disgusted just walking down it. Have you ever seen the illustrious Natalie Portman in person?
Generally no. A lot of schools with tougher standards are in fact not party schools. Mine is not much of a party school, but there's still a ton of stuff to do. Look at the higher end of the USNews ranking thing...Quote:
Originally posted by Zenigata
I have a few questions for you guys. Generally speaking, what's the most important thing needed to get into a good school? The guidance counselor says GPA and what you take are more important than the SATs. *sigh* He’s really pushing for everyone to start thinking about this stuff, but I really don’t care to. Also, what are some of the best schools? I really don't know, but I imagine I'd prefer something with a smaller population. No drunken frat party type stuff. I suppose it’s just my warped perception of college (thanks in large part to various forms of media), but is this type of activity generally inescapable at any school? :(
...which in fact you should have for the 2003 school year! Its a good way to get a jump start on exactly what colleges want, what range they like their students to be in SAT-wise and class rank-wise, etc. It was invaluable to me when I was researching colleges for transfer, and I ended up at one I really like.
If you really really wanna get into a Stanford or something, load up on activities and look into the specific school's requirements. They may make you take AP classes or something, so prepare for it. If you dont really care about where you go, just go to a middle of the road state school, but keep in mind that there's a solid chance its a party school.
Princetonreview.com ranks colleges in dozens of different ways, so check it out.
I definitely need to start looking into colleges...
Rice is supposedly hard to get into actually, the dropout/suicide rate is quite ridiculously high as well. I personally have met over 10 rice dropouts who are now at the University of Houston.
You and Whose Army: Damn dude - thats some hella street - I'd personally be intimidated/disgusted just walking down it. Have you ever seen the illustrious Natalie Portman in person?
but you guys are talking about undergrad... who cares about undergrad.. its worthless unles you go for a ph.d or m.d.. so unless you dont have Dr. in front of your name.. its crap..
and grad schools.. is whole diffrent thing.. gpa means shit.. its all about papers writen, conferences psented, and if you have anything published..
i think this article is missing somethings, and some people in this post are missing thingsQuote:
The prestigious schools listed here admit only top-of-the-line students, the cream of the academic crop
you can still be dumb and get to one of these schools if
1. your rich parents make a nice donation to the school
2. your parents are very rich and you went to a very rich private school
3. your famous, or the child of someone famous, especially a president
4. your family is rich
5. your rich dad is an alumni form the college, and makes his donations
6. someone in your rich family has connections at the college
7. your rich
8. oh yeah and if your really rich, you dont have to do anything your just accepted
i mean look at are president right now, no one can actually tell me that he is smart or ever was smart, the guy is an idiot, I dont know what college he went to but I know it was one of those ivy league places, hmm i wonder how he got in hmmm ...
Nice idea, but this doesn't really happen. You have to donate a lot of money to schools to stand out in the first place, and anyways, most school admissions officers are so freakishly egalitarian that they'd rather let in a stupid poor person than a stupid rich person.
Legacies make a difference - if your father went to that school, then they look slightly more kindly upon your application, but it still really isn't much of an issue.
Bush is mildly mushmouthed, not stupid. Bush is smarter than you, and he's smarter than most of his critics. We haven't had an intellectual in office since Wilson, and there's a reason for it - the people won't vote for one.
Legacies only matter a little if your parents/grandparents etc. didn't donate alot of money to the school. If they donated alot of money, you're garunteed entrance.
My sister is going to Harvard Medical School (for a PhD, not a MD). She says there are many, many very stupid medical students there from legacies.
Oh, and Bush isn't as stupid as some of his quotes make him out to be, but he isn't all that smart, either.
Yeah, for one, I wouldn't consider myself the authority on Bush's intelligence since - well - I don't know the guy. But I think it is safe to assume he is not simply dumb.
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my best friend went to harvard undergrad. He said there were a ton of stupid rich kids there, i visited and saw them myself too. There is a lot of truth to Strawberry Shortcake's post.
Yeah, I wish there were more hot girls in my school. If you want girls, NEVER go to an engineering school... EVER. *sigh* Why can't girls be hot AND be in the sciences?Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
I dunno man, they're hot. I'm taking a class on Insurance Law (for business purposes), taught by a Hotel School assistant professor...and there are a lot of hot chicks in it.
Something I learned the hard way as well. I needed to get the hell out of the engineering school before I committed suicide. Need some eye candy!Quote:
Originally posted by SearchManX
Yeah, I wish there were more hot girls in my school. If you want girls, NEVER go to an engineering school... EVER. *sigh* Why can't girls be hot AND be in the sciences?
And girls are into sciences... just not physical. Life sciences/premed/biochem/etc. is a good looking girl haven.
Yeah, I'm hoping our school's new biomed program attracts plenty of lookers. ;)Quote:
And girls are into sciences... just not physical. Life sciences/premed/biochem/etc. is a good looking girl haven.
My sister's going to attend Harvard this fall as a freshman. I dunno if its a good or bad thing but she's staying in the farthest fucking dorm from Harvard yard....Pennypacker. The dorm sounds like shit too....
My question is, how far is Pennypacker from Harvard Yard really?
Oh yeah, I hear Rivers Cuomo is going back to Harvard soon.
Whoa, my old thread!
How many times has he "gone back" to Harvard? Five?Quote:
Originally Posted by Klonoa
Odd, i responded the way i was about to respond right now,Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
Dont forget psychology, i was the only guy or one of less than five males in over half my courses.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I could have gone to MIT, but I opted to get the hell out of Dodge for a little while.
Well worth it.