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Originally Posted by Kidnemo
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See post, my motivation for getting stronger and into better shape is because I'm playing baseball again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Preacher curls aren't even primarily a bicep excercise. They target the brachialis.Quote:
Originally Posted by napalm
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...acherCurl.html
From what I've heard most people actually lose weight in boot camp. They make you do alot of running. But whatever, good luck on your 40 lbs. in a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Some people lose a lot of their fatty weight and come back slightly unhealthy but muscle mass increases. Some people just gain weight, up to 20 or 30 pounds for some. I've been there, and yes, there is a lot of running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
And like I said above, I want to gain 30-40 pounds in general weight, with as much muscle as I can muster up, even with not becoming real big I'd like to get stronger. 30 pounds in a year for a skinny guy like me on the right diet isn't that far-fetched I don't think.
Fuck you, preacher curls.
So then what?
I'm not saying Preacher curls are a terrible idea. The biceps still get worked as a synergist muscle. But I'd add regular curls as well if you want stronger biceps.Quote:
Originally Posted by napalm
Moderate cardio while attempting to build mass isn't a bad thing. Everyone should do about 20 minutes of cardio 3-4 days a week regardless of how you're training. But excessive cardio will just burn up calories that would otherwise be used for building muscle. You look like a lean guy, napalm, so I wouldn't worry about doing lots of cardio right now. Concentrate on building muscle. Besides, the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn (even just sitting still).Quote:
Originally Posted by napalm
No surprise, there. I'm sure you burnt fat with the cardio/no lifting, but I'm sure a fair amount of the weight you lost was muscle as well.Quote:
I've noticed it's been pretty damn hard for me to gain weight recently... When I first started lifting my weight skyrocketed, but I ended up dropping ~18 pounds in 3-4 months, and now I'm having a hell of a time recouping. I got to about 164-165, then I got really sick and did no weights/only cardio for 3 months, and before I knew it I was 145ish.
I'm a bigger fan of eating real food as opposed to shakes. I really only drink them before and after workouts, or before I go to bed. Doesn't really matter how you take in the protein, however. Just try to alternate meals and shakes- don't drink two shakes in a row. The body likes real food more.Quote:
Right now I usually drink ~100grams of protein daily, plus whatever I get in my (not so great) diet.
Looks like you have a good basic routine, especially considering how you have to work around your school workouts. But what do you mean by "chest press" (I assume it's a machine)? Whatever, get rid of it and add some kind of incline movement to your chest workout. Very important.Quote:
Dole, I think I've finally tweaked my workout to something that works good for me, but I was hoping you could give it a look-see and tell me what you think.
And Saint's right, precher curls are a good exercise, but not as your main mass/strength builder. Do barbell or dumbbell curls first. Concentration curls are a good finisher, as they help add peak (helps give the bicep height).
As for shoulders…I like the power cleans (good powerlifting-type exercise), and the shrugs, but get rid of the front dumbell raises (they're not for building size, they're a refinement move) and maybe add in some kind of overhead press, perhaps on a machine until you get used to them.
And again, you're splitting up your back stuff…doing pullups, then shoulders, then dumbbell rows and pulldowns…do one bodypart first, then the other.
Why would anyone want to gain anything other than muscle? Any excess fat = useless (especially if you want to work on your speed/endurance). I mean, you don't live in the tundra, so it's safe to say you won't be stuck for weeks at a time with nothing but your bodyfat to sustain you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Last time I checked, I lost weight when running, not gained it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Speaking of which, I really need start running again...
*snicker*Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Yea, I'm definately more concerned with muscle right now, but I still like to try and do cardio occasionally just to stay in shape, not to lose weight or anything. I typically run a half mile before my workout on the treadmill, 20 minutes on wednesday, and maybe another 20 minutes some other time during the week... nothing too intense at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I'm still trying to recover the lost strength :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Well I drink one shake in the morning (50g protein) and then one after my workout (another 50g), so it's not like this is all I'm getting. Still, I have a horrible diet, which is beyond my control at this point, so I'm not getting a lot of protein otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Best chest press, I meant the benchpressing-with-barbells workout, which once I got to thinking about, was redundant after benchpress. Also, I DO do inclined and declined chest press, it just slipped my head when I was writing down my workout, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Alright. I was always under the impression that preacher curls work the biceps even better than normal curls, because it isolated the muscle, but different muscle I guess. Do you think 3x8 dumbbell curls followd by 3x8 preacher curls would be a complete bicep exercise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
What exactly is a "refinement move?" I used to do overhead press, but there are so many shoulder workouts, I kind of left that one out. I'll be sure to add it back on there, but shouldn't I do an exercise that isolates the front part of my deltoid, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I was under the impression that "pull-ups" (pulling the weight from your waist up to your chest) was a shoulder exercise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
i could be wrong but i think dole told me 50g or so at a time isnt so good. i used to do that myself and always felt nauseous. dropped it to more than half that and havnt felt that anymore.
Sucks, doesn't it? That's the worst part of coming back from a layoff. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by napalm
If that's the case, then take it where and however you can get it. When it comes down to it, it's now what kind of protein you take in but how much.Quote:
Well I drink one shake in the morning (50g protein) and then one after my workout (another 50g), so it's not like this is all I'm getting. Still, I have a horrible diet, which is beyond my control at this point, so I'm not getting a lot of protein otherwise.
Ok. Carry on.Quote:
Best chest press, I meant the benchpressing-with-barbells workout, which once I got to thinking about, was redundant after benchpress. Also, I DO do inclined and declined chest press, it just slipped my head when I was writing down my workout, sorry.
Sounds good.Quote:
Alright. I was always under the impression that preacher curls work the biceps even better than normal curls, because it isolated the muscle, but different muscle I guess. Do you think 3x8 dumbbell curls followd by 3x8 preacher curls would be a complete bicep exercise?
A refinement move is designed more to add detail/definition/development to a very specific area, in the case of front raises, the front deltoid. It's something you do once you have the mass.Quote:
What exactly is a "refinement move?" I used to do overhead press, but there are so many shoulder workouts, I kind of left that one out. I'll be sure to add it back on there, but shouldn't I do an exercise that isolates the front part of my deltoid, too?
And shoulder presses are one of the most basic and effective exercises for adding overall shoulder mass (and especially the front deltoid). Do 'em.
Do you mean these?Quote:
I was under the impression that "pull-ups" (pulling the weight from your waist up to your chest) was a shoulder exercise?
http://www.cbbf.net/photos/2002_wome...g_chantal4.jpg
If so, those are called upright rows. Pull-ups are just another name for chin-ups.
Yeah, I've always thought 50g at once was probably too much for your body to use at one time. I aim more for around 30. But if you're not taking in regular amounts of protein during the day, taking in bigger amounts at once should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
There are these pre-weighted bars at the gym that are perfect for this. Is it better to do behind or in front of your head? I've always done it behind my head, but I'd be willing to change if the other way is better. I'm also glad to hear they work the front deltoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Yea I know pullups are another name for chinups, but I couldn't really think of what the upright rows were called. Anyhow, that is the exercise I was talking about. Would you reccommend having these in my workout?Quote:
Do you mean these?