I've read only a little of the LOTR trilogy, but I'm very impressed by what I've read so far. If the books are indeed even better than Peter Jackson's stellar LOTR films are, then I can't wait to finally sit down and read through them some day. :)
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I've read only a little of the LOTR trilogy, but I'm very impressed by what I've read so far. If the books are indeed even better than Peter Jackson's stellar LOTR films are, then I can't wait to finally sit down and read through them some day. :)
Speaking of the movie, doesn't Aragorn have Esildur's (and forgive any spelling errors on names here, they are tough to recall on 1 reading) sword in TTT? I mean, the shards of narsis are fixed or something (haven't read TFOTR) and he actually has the sword with him, rather than it lying in pieces as it does in the movie. Meh, I suppose they'll put it back together in the movie and give it to him or something.
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I'm hoping to see the Ents kick the shit outta Orthanc. That would Own.
And, yeah, I doubt the movie will end as TTT does, with sam running to a door, knowing that frodo is alive, yet not seeing him.
Just as TTT opens with the death of Boromer, where the movie ends with that before sam and frodo leave, I think they'll change it a tad. How, I dunno.
If they kill of that character in TTT, that the rumors say they will, that's going to suck ass as well.
Oh well, I await the movie.
Dickens and Hardy as well. That was style during the latter part of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th. I still enjoy it but sometimes it's a bit much.Quote:
Originally posted by TracerBullet
Tolkien's very wordy... so are alot of authors from just before his time. It's just and older style which is still very very very good. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne both come to mind in using this style
Yep, you're right actually. But orcs are stupid so it kinda makes sense. They have no problem with killing their own kind to prove a point, no matter how much it may jeopardize the situation at hand. And I think the Riders of Rohan would have slaughtered them anyway. They were pretty badass.Quote:
Originally posted by Gongos
In the books thethe ents mention before their seige of orthnac that they are stronger than trolls(who are pretty tough) who are weaker imitiations like the orcs are of elves. the movie did a better job of explaning the orc/elf connection as orcs are the offspring of twisted and poinsioned captured elves. I always saw this as a slight religious allegory, as orcs are fallen elves, and elves are undying and powerful but dont interfere in the affairs of humans except in times of great need. and the killing s that stuk in my mind were when gimli, legolas and aragorn ar etracking the uruk hai, adn keep finding dead ones from their disagreements, no wonder the riders of rohan massacred them, they thinned their own ranks. Anoter example happens when the orcs take frodo, after he is stung by shelob, to be interrogated and sam follows, an army of 100 orcs bickers over who gets to torture frodo,and kill themselves down to one that sam offs. now if that isint a convenient device to give sam a chance, what is? it seemed like a cheap kill after the fairly cool scene with shelob.
You are correct sir. He brings it to Rohan and everyone is amazed that this sword is in one piece again and that a man is actually wielding it. I'd imagine this would be in the movie too.Quote:
Originally posted by mattvanstone
Speaking of the movie, doesn't Aragorn have Esildur's (and forgive any spelling errors on names here, they are tough to recall on 1 reading) sword in TTT? I mean, the shards of narsis are fixed or something (haven't read TFOTR) and he actually has the sword with him, rather than it lying in pieces as it does in the movie. Meh, I suppose they'll put it back together in the movie and give it to him or something.
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I just thought of something really idiotic that Peter Jackson, or whoever, decided to do. In the coming attractions to The Two Towers they give away the fact that Gandalf comes back. How retarded is that!?!? It's supposed to come as a shock to the audience. Knowing it's going to happen already just ruins the whole effect. Now most people probably haven't seen the preview anyway, but for those who did, they were subjected to this without even having a choice. I think that's just wrong, and whoever put together this preview should be smacked by everyone who had to see it. That seems to be a growing trend these days: giving away the whole movie in previews. They did the same thing with Red Dragon. It's so freakin stupid.
[Rant over]
No. Ralph Bakshi should die.Quote:
Originally posted by andyrose
The animated films(The Hobbit, I think) made in the late 80's were excellent as well.
I always thought Frodo was pretty damn boring, especially compared to Bilbo. Sam is the true hero of LotR. And he's worse off than Frodo as far as heroic qualities go.Quote:
Originally posted by Gongos
Part of frodos coolness is that, unlike videogame guys who start out at least somewhat capable, he is a totally boring and unemarkable guy, and scared witless with his burden, he cant fight, eats too much, and is woefully out of shape. So for him to do this quest is that much cooler.
It's been awhile since I've read The Silmarillion, but I thought Sauron was the same as Gandalf (and Saruman), not an Elf but one of the beings sent to oppose Morgoth. I can't remember what they were called.Quote:
Originally posted by TracerBullet
Sauron was an Elf who desired power to change the ills he saw and in the end he become the next great foe.
I'm not sure exactly what Sauron was, but his master Melkor, was a Valar, which is what Gandalf and Saruman were.Quote:
Originally posted by Saint of Killers
It's been awhile since I've read The Silmarillion, but I thought Sauron was the same as Gandalf (and Saruman), not an Elf but one of the beings sent to oppose Morgoth. I can't remember what they were called.
The shock of Gandalf the White is still there, its for when you see the trailer for the first time :) I like what they did with the trailers and how they show stuff over time. Gollum and Treebeard are the real surprises, and they are keeping them under wraps (I've seen what Treebeard looks like, though, friggin amazing detail, go to Onering.net and scroll down a bit to see him)
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-The movie either starts with Frodo and Sam in Emyn Muil, or with the Three Hunters. Its more than likely it starts with Frodo and Sam, since the first song on the soundtrack is about the rocks or something.
-No one has been sure about how the Ents storming Orthanc will be, but mostly its been said we'll only get to see the aftermath only.
-Either Arwen will deliver Isildur's sword sometime (to give her something to do), or I figure Aragorn will get it when he goes back to Rivendell (he is shown talking to Elrond in the new trailer).
-The movie will end with Frodo and Sam heading off to Mordor. Its not known how far, though. The fight with Shelob will not be in Two Towers, however. I'm dissapointed too, but PJ said that it'll give Sam and Frodo more to do in Return of the King, and that Sam and Frodo's struggle with Shelob mirrors what is going on at the time with the other characters. The timing coincides with the books more that way.
-MVS, what do you mean by a character being killed off?
I hope you're joking.Quote:
Originally posted by Green
The shock of Gandalf the White is still there, its for when you see the trailer for the first time :)
Star Wars people, you have to be kidding. The star wars universe is cool because its so big and detailed, but the actual story is kinda lame in my opinion.
My favorite alternate universe is the Discworld universe. Its kind of hard to pick a candidate for the greatest story ever told though...
well i don't think gandalf coming back is supposed to be a suprise, seeing as most of the people seeing the movie are either nerds or dorks who have already read the books at least once, and already know that gandalf comes back.
but hey thats my opinion
:lol: that's what I was thinking as well