pay homage to the greatest martial arts flick. ever!!!

fuck yeah! a tribute thread to bloodsport. i can't even count how many times i've seen this movie. as you all know (well, despair knows), i'm a huge van damme fan; probably the biggest one on this board.

anyway, bloodsport fuckin' rules. my roommate has every line in the movie memorized. that's how classic this movie is. forget office space; forget kevin smith movies; forget the simpsons. when it comes to lines, it's all about bloodsport. "very goot, but brick no hit back!" bolo yeung rules. "you break my record, now i break you, like i break your friend." while it's one of van damme's best ones, i still would have to say that hard target is my favorite.

for another great van damme classic, check out "no retreat, no surrender." it's a great, but very cheesy american martial arts movie where van damme plays a bad guy. although he's only in the movie for about 15 minutes (maybe less), he kicks major ass, although he does lose to the main character at the end. classic cheesy 80s stuff.

Yeah, with a Bruce Lee ghost training the guy so he can beat Van Damm's Ivan - The Russian Immigrant baddie :)


Well, I'm also fan of Tsui Hark's Double Team and Knock Off with Van Damm. Everyone seems to hate these 2 film, but I find them big deal of fun. I love the way Hark sets up and directs scenes, very visual, something Fincher does in US films. Action scenes are also great. Sure those are very silly and unbelievable, but their campiness bring more charm to them.

Sorry the best kung-fu flick is not Bloodsport or any Jackie Chan movies or any crouching tigers. It's a tie!

Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon & Shaolin Dolimite!

Sho nuf,
-Gigas

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Originally posted by Despair
Yeah, with a Bruce Lee ghost training the guy so he can beat Van Damm's Ivan - The Russian Immigrant baddie :)


Well, I'm also fan of Tsui Hark's Double Team and Knock Off with Van Damm. Everyone seems to hate these 2 film, but I find them big deal of fun. I love the way Hark sets up and directs scenes, very visual, something Fincher does in US films. Action scenes are also great. Sure those are very silly and unbelievable, but their campiness bring more charm to them.

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dude, i totally love knock off and double team. i thought double team had great action and pacing. van damme rehab scene was dope. i also like the colors in the movie. it reminds me of "run lola run."

knock off was cool because it was van damme doing something very hk. carriage racing scene and van damme vs. 100 knife-wielding hk thug scene were the dopest.

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Originally posted by BeanBandit

I disagree. A kung fu movie shouldn't be a bunch of showy fight sequences, linked together by a typical paper thin plot. I would hardly categorize Crouching Tiger as a romance type movie, despite the lengthly sequences where people are kissing rather than knocking out each other's teeth. Likewise, I wouldn't say Shaolin Soccer is a sports movie or a comedy. Drunken Master 2 (and several other Jackie Chan movies) also contain humour and lots of physical comedy.

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how can you say that Shaolin Soccer isn't a comedy or a sports movie when that's its MAIN FOCUS ? sure, a martial arts movie shouldn't be a bunch of fight scenes with a n ehhh plot, but that's usually what that genre is about. Once Upon a Time in China is a martial arts flick because that's what's being focused on, God of Cookery is a comedy because that's what's being focused on. Drunken Master is a comedic martial arts movie that is half this and half that, something that SS isn't.

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And regarding the dance scene in SS, I've heard about it, but never seen it! because it is mysteriously absent from my DVD. Apparently it is on the VCD, which is really weird. I think I'll have to buy it just for that one scene. That's what I get for buying my DVDs in Chinatown. :(

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if you own the dvd, there should be certain scenes during the film where a little shaolin looking character pops up on the upper-right corner of the screen. it should pop up during the scene where Stephen Chow's character first meets up with Ah-Mei at the sweet bun shop.

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Xeno Gigas commenting on Bloodsport not being the best martial arts flick (he's in denial) and saying that Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon and Shaolin Dolemite are.

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Last Dragon isn't the best, but i'd have to say that it's one of the best. it's pure 80's cheese, but it's the good velveeta type. it gets extra bonus points for this classic line:

"you Rick James, string bean, lookin' fool!"

Here are five immortal words.....

"Kung Fu Kids : Break Away"


~Quinn

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Originally posted by Despair
Yeah, with a Bruce Lee ghost training the guy so he can beat Van Damm's Ivan - The Russian Immigrant baddie :)


Well, I'm also fan of Tsui Hark's Double Team and Knock Off with Van Damm. Everyone seems to hate these 2 film, but I find them big deal of fun. I love the way Hark sets up and directs scenes, very visual, something Fincher does in US films. Action scenes are also great. Sure those are very silly and unbelievable, but their campiness bring more charm to them.

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I loved Knock Off--especially for the race scene that ends up in the supermarket--his camera work is inventive and amazing. he's easliy one of my favorite directors in terms of variety. I only dislike one of his films so far--Green Snake.

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how can you say that Shaolin Soccer isn't a comedy or a sports movie when that's its MAIN FOCUS ? sure, a martial arts movie shouldn't be a bunch of fight scenes with a n ehhh plot, but that's usually what that genre is about. Once Upon a Time in China is a martial arts flick because that's what's being focused on, God of Cookery is a comedy because that's what's being focused on. Drunken Master is a comedic martial arts movie that is half this and half that, something that SS isn't.

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The problem is that different people have different ideas of what a martial arts film is. Sure Once Upon a Time a China is a martial arts piece, but it's a lot more than too. It' a commentary on the British occupation of China and the overall modernization of China. There is a lot of confilct between the use of guns and the use of fists to fight.

I consider Shaolin Soccer as much a martial arts film as it is a comedy because of the importance martial arts play in the film. Each of the players uses Shaolin-learned secrets to make it in the 21st century. When Stephen Chow sings to Vicki Chao Wei, the lady making the sweet buns, he is singing a very famous Cantonese song, but playing with the words. Maggie Cheung and Bill Tung sing the same song in Project A 2, also playing with the words. Many of Stephen Chow's films play off of other martial arts films. Sure it's a comedy and a very un-traditional martial arts film, but it does have elements of them. It's a kung fu comedy. And it's one of the finest HK films ever made in my opinion.

WoW. It so nice to see some Double Team and Knock OFF love here. I thought I was alone :)

On all other HK movie boards, those movies are bashed regulary :(

HK Martial Arts films, and US Martial Arts films, are two different animals. Its onlu recently, US films started to get better, with a lot of assistance from HK talent. Just look at mid 80-90 US films of Don THe Dragon Wilson or Steven Seagal, or some other Van Damm films.
You can really compare them to HK films produced in the same time period.

"OKAY, U.S.A.!!"

Bloodsport is just one of those movies where the cheese makes it great. The fight scenes were decent for the time, and the characters were almost Street Fighter-ish in design.

Bloodsport and Kickboxer are definitely the top two American-made 80's martial-arts flicks.

The pure crap award has gotta go to "Gymkata". The hell were they thinking when they made that heap? Good for a laugh, though.