Can I b**** about Metroid Prime?

I fail to see how the Prime controlls are hindering anybody. I mean, my God, it's a first person game where I can jump from platform to platform with accuracy. That right there is a miracle of game design, and I attribute that to not having to press the Z button on the player 3 controll pad with my toes in order to execute a jump as standard FPS controlls would have me do. :) Seriously, it looks like they set out to make a game where you could jump around as you wanted and explore without worrying about it, and the controlls let you do just that.

Well, in my trying to compromise with Stryder-kyo's whole "Keeping with the old Metroid style" (plus, I was dead tired writing that post :o ) I didn't put the shoot and missiles on the R and Z triggers, which would make more sense if using the C-stick to look. I'd be nice to also have the option of using a look spring or not. (you know, to have the game automatically spring back the screen to the default position)

So:

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L Analog Pad - Forward/Backward movement, Left/Right strafing (regular Up/Down/Left/Right controls in Morph Ball mode)
C-Stick - Look Around
D-pad - Change Visor
R-trigger - Shoot
L-trigger - Lock-on
Z-button - Missiles
A-button - Jump
B-button - Morph ball
X-button - Beam Select (Cycle forward)
Y-button - Beam Select (Cycle backward)
Start button - Map/Inventory/Game Options/Etc.

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And again, I'm not saying I'd throw away the current control scheme. Like I said, the current scheme is fine. I'm trying to come up with another one that I would have liked the option of using. There have been plenty of games I wish I had more control over when it comes to the button layout, even good games. (I'm sure plenty of people would love the opportunity to change the control scheme in, say, Res Evil.) This is just the latest one.

I know it's not popular to say anything "Bad" about this game, and I'm the only one complaining at this point, but it's only because I wanted to love this game totally. I was one of its supporters early on, as soon as I heard about it being a first-person game. It made so much sense to me, and I knew it would ge awesome, even the best the Gamecube had to offer. But once I heard you couldn't free look while moving, I was disappointed. I thought I could get over it and not miss it, but I can't. I can and will (obviously) use the controls as is, but can you fault me for wishing for something better? I've known other players to use control setups totally different from mine, as what they feel is comfortable and intuitive to their play style is different to mine. So why can't some of you understand where I'm coming from?

So for the 17,000 time: the controls are fine, they get the job done, they work, there's nothing inherently wrong with them. BUT, things could be better.

I guess your scheme could work - however, I don't think beam cycling would get the job done in intense firefights with different colored Pirates. Also, firing charged missiles with R and Z seems terribly awkward.

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Originally posted by burgundy
I guess your scheme could work - however, I don't think beam cycling would get the job done in intense firefights with different colored Pirates. Also, firing charged missiles with R and Z seems terribly awkward.

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Hey, what's one mans "Awkward" is another man's "Hey, this is alright!" :D

Another question - why do you need to strafe if you have the lock-on? People are complaining that the lock-on makes things too easy, yet they want to be able to strafe. The whole point is that the lock-on equals the strafe.

Although I do see your point about more options always being better. I wish RE had a different control scheme, and I don't think I would have played Jet Force Gemini at all if I was stuck with the default scheme.

Well that's true. That's why there are customizeable controls in the first place. Hey I like some weird stuff, like putting rapid fire on trigger buttons and strange things...hell for my emulators (I know it's a keyboard thus open to more customization) my primary buttons are Ctrl and Alt!

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Originally posted by burgundy
Another question - why do you need to strafe if you have the lock-on? People are complaining that the lock-on makes things too easy, yet they want to be able to strafe. The whole point is that the lock-on equals the strafe.

Although I do see your point about more options always being better. I wish RE had a different control scheme, and I don't think I would have played Jet Force Gemini at all if I was stuck with the default scheme.

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FINALLY, someone sees my point! :cool:

About strafing: it just works in First Person games to have strafing when it comes to moving your character AND looking at the same time, at least to me. I guess you could also have the option of not doing that and just having the left analog control Up/Down/Left/Right. That would be fine too. But I hate bumping into corners while trying to turn every now and again, so I probably wouldn't use that option myself.

And personally, I never claimed lock-on was easy, as the enemy has to be in the immediate area of the cursor in order to lock on to it anyway. If I'd figured that out earlier on, I probably wouldn't have died on that boss like I mentioned earlier.

My point is that people who are bitching that the lock-on is dumbing down the gameplay but then also bitch that there's no dual stick set-up functioning as basically the same thing as the lock-on without pressing the L button are being unnecessarily anal and stupid.

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Originally posted by Chibi Nappa
and I attribute that to not having to press the Z button on the player 3 controll pad with my toes in order to execute a jump as standard FPS controlls would have me do. :)

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sorry...dumbest quote ever. i know theres heavy sarcasm here but standard fps controls are not hard at all.

Even though I really like the controls, I still don't understand why they don't allow you to customize. It can't be that hard to implament. All games should have fully customizable controls. Just to allow the Gamer to enjoy it more if they do have toubles.

And if someone could tell me how to get the Warrior Artifact that would be great!