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I currently subscribe to Comcast Cable Internet Service. My computer is 4ish rooms away from my room with the consoles. I REALLY want Xbox live, and I wouldnt mind getting use out of my PS2 net adaptor. My question is this, do I need a router, hub, or switch in order to have both my comp, and a console on at the same time.
If Router is the answer, is this a good idea to get?
http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=...=540&scat=1574
I have similiar questions. I'm getting a high-speed USB modem. The Xbox site says I need PC NCI slot. What the hell is that? Can't I just use a router and some shit?
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Originally posted by Chux
I currently subscribe to Comcast Cable Internet Service. My computer is 4ish rooms away from my room with the consoles. I REALLY want Xbox live, and I wouldnt mind getting use out of my PS2 net adaptor. My question is this, do I need a router, hub, or switch in order to have both my comp, and a console on at the same time.
If Router is the answer, is this a good idea to get?
http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=...=540&scat=1574
Routers, hubs, AND switches will work. However, I recommend a router, because it shares the IP, otherwise you'll need to pay extra for a second IP for your Xbox, or PS2 with a hub. And yes, that's a good Router, just requires some Port Forwarding to allow incoming voice chat in SOCOM, I don't know about voice on Xbox. Just avoid D-Links, please. You also need Cat-5 cable to connect the router to the console.
Thanks for the help. I don't have Socom, and don't plan on having it. As for Xbox Live voices, I guess I'll find out when I get it.
Well, www.broadbandreports.com has extensive information on the portforwarding and stuff if you ever need it. I'll find it tomarrow, if you like. I've got to be up in a few hours for school though so I don't have the time now. Off to be I go.
Make sure it works.Quote:
Originally posted by Chux
As for Xbox Live voices, I guess I'll find out when I get it.
I want to hear you shriek like a bitch when I whoop you in CVS2.
Oh muh god. If I lose I'm going robot on your ass.
First off, you're all losing to me in CVS2. Second, answer my question dammit?
NCI = Network Card Interface?
I don't know if I have that. Damn USB modem.
You probably dont if it's USB...
Do you have a network card in your computer?
I don't think so. If I did I'd be able to use Ethernet, right.
Yup
It's NIC (network interface card) and it goes in you Master PCI slot. If all you have is USB then you may well be left out in the cold unless there's an adapter. NIC's cost about $10 and if you're really about connecting your PS2 and Xbox you might find it in yourself to pickup a Motorola "Surfboard" Cable Modem, Toshiba makes a better one and Cable companies will be less suspect of it too but it costs a lot. Linksys makes the best routers, though Microsoft has put out a dandy of a router too. I use D-Link for the time being. It gets the job done, but for some tasks it can be more high maintenence.
If you use XP or NT (or Win2K) then you can buy 2 more NIC's and have your computer serve as a router. That more of a hassle, but it's the cheapest (though less effective IMO) way to go. Personally I don't recommend it unless your MoBo supports that right out of the box (ie Integrated like the nForce2).
Hope that helps some.
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The Linksys router Chux referenced in his first post here will work fine.
There have been a few threads on this.. Try using the search. :p
Yeah, for your use (multi-console + pc networking) you'd best go with a 4 port router. It's a touch more expensive, but a whole lot more reliable. Hubs are good for small pc networks (eg; file/print sharing) but if you're trying to get multiple machines online at once a router is the best way to go about it. Routers can handle traffic to multiple endpoints better, resulting in far less packet collisions (like packets headed to the cpu getting bounced off the packets headed to the ps2/xbox/cube), and in that a better online experience.
Also, a perplexing question, and probably one for the super tech saavy -- does the X-Box use IPv6? I'm curious, as IPv6 is vastly superior to IPv4, can carry more information, better encryption, yadda yadda yadda. (I'm not looking for any definitive answer here, I'm just curious...)
There will be no ear fucking on my watch...Quote:
Originally posted by Chux
If I lose I'm going robot on your ass.
So I can use a router if I am using USB right?
would the same apply for the GameCube (as in routers being usable)? And how would you set up any of the new consoles to work off a router?
You just set up the router and take a Cat-5 cable from the router into the adaptor for that system.
easy as that? No messing with networking and such?
Well, you'd have to set it up through the configuration on screen. But that's simply taking the information from Start>run>command>ipconfig -all and inputting it. It's rather easy. (As long as Port Forwarding isn't involved, which still isn't all to complicated) :)
If your router is configured to give out IPs via DHCP, just set the consoles to DHCP, your router will do the rest. There might be a few specific things to do to allow for the voice transmission for PS2 and Xbox, but you all should know how to use Google to find that info.
Oh, and if you do the ipconfig thing Rich is talking about, remember to change the IP address to something that won't conflict with the PC.
It depends on the developer... most the OS is on the game disc and is based modularly (like NT) around a primitive DX8 based OS. Developers are allowed to put as much or as little in the Xbox. As far as I know the actual hardware itself makes no demands for one or the other. DC used IPv4 FYI.Quote:
Originally posted by cka
Also, a perplexing question, and probably one for the super tech saavy -- does the X-Box use IPv6? I'm curious, as IPv6 is vastly superior to IPv4, can carry more information, better encryption, yadda yadda yadda. (I'm not looking for any definitive answer here, I'm just curious...)
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I suppose, so long as that Router can be connected to your USB modem somehow.Quote:
Originally posted by Briscobold
So I can use a router if I am using USB right?
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I thought to say something about that earlier, but then forgot to. IPv6 ought to be dependent on TCP/IP stack, right?
I would think so, maybe, I'm sure XBL is quite up to date. The protocols (or details therein) are skecthy to me, so I don't know exactly how they're working this deal.
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Seeing as it's Microsoft we're talking about... probably well-enough to get it working, but not efficient/secure enough to be considered "rock solid".
^_^
So can you use USB modems with a router?
If you can get a router with a USB input, yes. It just makes things simpler if you can get one with a RJ-45 input.
To touch up on that, the router will give you a new IP adress. In the case of my router, it was 192.168.0.X So, when inputting an IP for whatever system your using, make it easy and input the IP 192.168.0.x+1(X-1)Quote:
Originally posted by Lhadatt
Oh, and if you do the ipconfig thing Rich is talking about, remember to change the IP address to something that won't conflict with the PC.
It's not necessary, but it does make it easy. All though I think you may need to keep the first 3 numbers...Just get a router and come back for specific instructions, will be so much easier then... :D
I was talking about the xbox's connection to the xbl servers... It would make sense if they [used ipv6 they would] tunnel a ipv6 connection from your dialup/broadband address to the xbl servers, and get a local ipv6 address set up to route information back and forth. Babble babble babble.Quote:
Originally posted by TracerBullet
It depends on the developer... most the OS is on the game disc and is based modularly (like NT) around a primitive DX8 based OS. Developers are allowed to put as much or as little in the Xbox. As far as I know the actual hardware itself makes no demands for one or the other. DC used IPv4 FYI.
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Originally posted by cka
I was talking about the xbox's connection to the xbl servers... It would make sense if they [used ipv6 they would] tunnel a ipv6 connection from your dialup/broadband address to the xbl servers, and get a local ipv6 address set up to route information back and forth. Babble babble babble.
Xbox Live is broadband only.
Well excuse me for generalizing!
Thank you, Captain Oblivious!Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
Xbox Live is broadband only.
Yes. First three sets of numbers must be kept.Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
To touch up on that, the router will give you a new IP adress. In the case of my router, it was 192.168.0.X So, when inputting an IP for whatever system your using, make it easy and input the IP 192.168.0.x+1(X-1)
It's not necessary, but it does make it easy. All though I think you may need to keep the first 3 numbers...Just get a router and come back for specific instructions, will be so much easier then... :D
Quite frankly, all three broadband adapters support DHCP. Just use that....
You're excused.Quote:
Originally posted by cka
Well excuse me for generalizing!
New question! What's the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 Cables. I ask this because apparantly my dad has spools of both.
Cat5 and Cat5e run at 100 MHz. This is enough to support gigabit (1000mbps) speeds. At present, this is all you should need, especially in something as small-scale as a home network.
Cat6 is the next step up -- it runs at 200 MHz, so it can handle double the data Cat5 can. It works well with Cat5/e, so you can definately run it with Cat5 cable in the same network. However, if you anticipate doing anything beyond gigabit speeds, you will want to run Cat6 exclusively. It's mainly for really really fast things like ATM connections right now, so any home use would be overkill.
Alright, and both are acceptable for xbox hookups I'm presuming.
Unless you have a switch to a large scale gigabit darkfiber network in your house.... or sitting next to you.
*pets the 48 port BD*
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Alright guys, I'm up and running with my consoles, but my friend is running into a new problem. He has millenium cable, and a netgear router. His computer has NO problem getting online, but the xbox gets no love. He's done a direct connect from the cable modem to the box, and from the modem, to the router to the box and still cant get it to connect. Any ideas?
Yep, call tech support and pray. My wireless NetGear router that I paid a dandy dime for still isn't working (and it's not like I'm trying to get Xbox through wireless or anything)...after speaking with both Netgear and Xbox Live reps for hours, Netgear finally admits that it won't work until they release a firmware upgrade to the router. ...and I'm still waiting for the ephemeral upgrade...
Right now I just switch the cables and direct connect the xbox, effectively booting everyone else on the network off.
UGH The plague has came my way. All of the sudden my router is now on the fritz. Before the 100 light was not on, but now it's on all of my connections and wont allow them to connect. The cable modem is working fine because that's how I'm posting now. Still pissy though. Anybody got any ideas?
Try powercycling your modem and/or router. Just shut the power for about a minute and retry it.