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God bless America. :)
What was that... bombs?
If so, bombing individual people seems kinda... odd.
Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly I was watching...although I did find that seemingly black dude who got all excited at every explosion to be quite amusing. *explosion goes off* "Blah, BANG!" I'm sure it was military jargon, but what he was saying seemed to be completely seperate from the rest of the operation...
It's an AC-130 Gunship. Plane with guns sticking out the side.
http://www.avitop.com/war/images/story.fire.jpg
Pretty dope when that dude's blown into 2 pieces.
I guess the lesson of the day is when in Afganistan, run into a mosque.
Why didn't they just blow up the mosque?
I know i would.
Why didn't the US bomb the Imperial Palace in Tokyo in WW2?
Guess they have limits on what to shoot.
who were these people that they were shooting at ???
civilians, taliban soldiers, al qaeda members ???
oh yeah and fuck america
they were shooting at me and my family. we were just having a simple cook-out. nothing more. nothing less.
One guy kept running and running.
It was like Run, Bang, Run, Bang !
HaHaHa!!! Die you terrorist scum!!
America fucking rocks. I want to control that shit!
Bombing a mosque would be fucked up.
True Islam has nothing to do with fundamentalist ass wipes, same goes for Jews, Christians, all those crazy monotheists.
LMFAO
Ahaha, imagine being in that guy's shoes? I'd be pissing my pants.Quote:
Originally posted by Despair
One guy kept running and running.
It was like Run, Bang, Run, Bang !
How fucking cool would it be if they made a game based on something like that? I know I'd buy it. "Kill the Terrorists with your AC-130"
that was interesting - can't say i've ever watched anything like that before.
Well, at least they were having some fun with engaging people and automobiles with a plane. Don't pussy out next time soldiers, get down there with some shotguns and swords and shit, give us some up close entertainment, not this pansy ass "from afar" bombing.
Lmao!
*breaking news from Afghanistan*
Soldiers have just entered the caves and have engaged in epic sword fights with the Taliban!
Well, it WOULD be pretty damn entertaining
I still dont understand how bombing one of the world's poorest nations like pussies from a 10 billion dollar aircraft, probably killing folks who never even heard of the WWorld trade Center makes "America Own"
Pretty fuckin lame if you ask me. And to top it off, Osama is still alive. Oh well as long as it pleases the average dumbass American living out in Idaho, Bush will win the next election...
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Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
I still dont understand how bombing one of the world's poorest nations like pussies from a 10 billion dollar aircraft, probably killing folks who never even heard of the WWorld trade Center makes "America Own"
I think the ownage here is our capability of targeting someone's toenail from fecking space.
There's no proof to say he is alive or dead, just speculation. Even if he was alive, he wouldn't be for long -- he's got cancer, and the last verified sightings of him made him out to be in pretty bad shape.Quote:
Pretty fuckin lame if you ask me. And to top it off, Osama is still alive. Oh well as long as it pleases the average dumbass American living out in Idaho, Bush will win the next election...
Besides, if you were in charge of a scattered and disrupted organization with a dead leader, wouldn't it be logical to pretend he was still alive so the followers wouldn't dispurse?
Are you one of those super cool "OMFG JAPAN IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN AMERICA" people?Quote:
Originally posted by Strawberry Shortcake
oh yeah and fuck america
Where do you live?
And how old are you?
His name is "Strawberry Shortcake." 'nuff said.
Exactly. Bombing a mosque or any other place of worship for ANY religion is simply wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
Bombing a mosque would be fucked up.
True Islam has nothing to do with fundamentalist ass wipes, same goes for Jews, Christians, all those crazy monotheists.
If the enemy is in a place of worship. Kill them.
Who fucking cares.
Bono.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
If the enemy is in a place of worship. Kill them.
Who fucking cares.
Yeah... well fuck him. He whines too much.
Meh...
War, and fighting and all that isn't about fairness. It's not kindergarten.
It's about crushing your enemy as swiftly and as effiently as you can. The US just happens to have the best weapons in the world to do this.
Though, we are grossly outnumbered by China in terms of manpower.
Viva Zapata!Quote:
Originally posted by Lhadatt
Besides, if you were in charge of a scattered and disrupted organization with a dead leader, wouldn't it be logical to pretend he was still alive so the followers wouldn't dispurse?
ManpowerQuote:
Originally posted by mattvanstone
Though, we are grossly outnumbered by China in terms of manpower.
etcetera
That is good - but what is best in life?
Conan: "TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN"
China has more people in their army than we have in this entire country, that and the whole 10% of every dollar to buy something in China goes to the Military thing.
Exactly.
If China were to invade, and every citizen of this country were to pick up a gun and fight, we would still lose.
BOOM!
Nope.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Exactly.
If China were to invade, and every citizen of this country were to pick up a gun and fight, we would still lose.
They can't very well take the proverbial slow boat from China. The chances of China getting over to the US are slim, also, we'd use the Pacific Fleet to stop that, or Fuel Air Bombs or such.
The problem with China, is that they are building up, and doing it in such a way to draw the US into the Taiwan Straight. They have nukes that can reach the west coast of the US, and are developing Hyper Sonic Missiles designed to be used against Air Craft Carriers (the missiles go too fast to detect and stop).
If the US goes into to protect Taiwan, then China could very well attack the pacific fleet and do damage to it. Then, you got problems on a mass scale.
Read Tom Clancy's Bear and the Dragon if you like war things, it's USA and Russia versus China. Quite good.
So we should procreate at a faster rate?Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Exactly.
If China were to invade, and every citizen of this country were to pick up a gun and fight, we would still lose.
*wonders what the world would be like if there were forced procreation*
What exactly are these I have seen them mentioned elsewhere as wellQuote:
Fuel Air Bombs
A fuel Air bomb is the biggest non-nuclear weapon that the US has and is literally as big as a Mini-van.
As I understand it, it explodes the gaseous fuel outward, then ignites it a fraction of a second later, thus pulling in air and the like as fuel for the fire.
They call them Daisy Cutters, as I recall.
Meh..here's the official line:
The BLU-82 'Daisy Cutter' is basically a large metal container (6mm Steel Plate) filled with 5,700kg of explosive 'slurry' (Ammonium Nitrate and Aluminum Powder).
The shockwave can be felt Kilometers away and it will incinerate objects within a 600M radius.
Cost is 27,000 and it's dropped via a c-130 Cargo Plane.
It works by cracking open the casing to release a fine mist of explosive material, then ignites it, thus causing a wave of energy to spread rapidly.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/flash/0,5860,588916,00.html
That should be fun to use in C&C Generals
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Are you one of those super cool "OMFG JAPAN IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN AMERICA" people?
Where do you live?
And how old are you?
um no
I live in america
I still say it is one of the best countries, but at the same time fuck America
...
God point.Quote:
Originally posted by Lhadatt
Besides, if you were in charge of a scattered and disrupted organization with a dead leader, wouldn't it be logical to pretend he was still alive so the followers wouldn't dispurse?
Things I do know:
1.China will be the end of us. Either economically or in a military sense. Hopefully not.
2.We used the tragedy of Sep 11 to invade Afghanistan, something which has been in the works for over a decade, to build pipelines from the Caspian Sea to the gulf for oil, (conquering Afghanistan is much easier than dealing with Iran)
in addition to giving the US a key strategic position in Central Asia.
3.We are going to war with Iraq for Israel and Bush Sr., and the oil interests of the world. Russia will be extremely pissed, and I predict another Cold War when all this is over.
uh.....russia vs us or china vs us:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
Russia will be extremely pissed, and I predict another Cold War when all this is over.
Fuck you buddy. *lives in Idaho*Quote:
Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
Pretty fuckin lame if you ask me. And to top it off, Osama is still alive. Oh well as long as it pleases the average dumbass American living out in Idaho, Bush will win the next election...
Interesting points, all. But what's up with 1? You say you "know", yet then, "hopefully not." Which is it?Quote:
Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
God point.
Things I do know:
1.China will be the end of us. Either economically or in a military sense. Hopefully not.
2.We used the tragedy of Sep 11 to invade Afghanistan, something which has been in the works for over a decade, to build pipelines from the Caspian Sea to the gulf for oil, (conquering Afghanistan is much easier than dealing with Iran)
in addition to giving the US a key strategic position in Central Asia.
3.We are going to war with Iraq for Israel and Bush Sr., and the oil interests of the world. Russia will be extremely pissed, and I predict another Cold War when all this is over.
What if their religion is to strip the skin off of puppies and then wear the skin on their heads. Then, they murder the children and eat their flesh?Quote:
Originally posted by 007bond
Exactly. Bombing a mosque or any other place of worship for ANY religion is simply wrong.
Dude, that's a fucked up religion that I would like to see bombed.
~Mr. K~
No nation can wipe out the US without being wiped out itself. China cannot do this.
Russia cannot do another cold war, that is what ultimately led to that nations demise in the classic sense. Regan tripled the national debt, and Russia could not keep up. They simply cannot afford it.
I do think that the US is Israel's puppets though, that much seems clear to me.
It's about time someone got that right. It pisses me off to no end when I hear "we are going to war because WE (US) want the oil, when that's not correct. We don't even get as much oil as people think from the Middle East.. As MK said, it's for the oil interestests OF THE WORLD. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by MrKasualUltra2000
3.We are going to war with Iraq ... for the oil interests of the world.
um i think you got that backwardsQuote:
do think that the US is Israel's puppets though, that much seems clear to me.
Isreal is our puppets they do what we say
cause they are nothing without us
No, I have my thoughts correctly, thank you.
Israel buys US weapons and technology, and the US has 0 influence on that nation at all.
OK. You are fourteen. You have to be fourteen.Quote:
Originally posted by Strawberry Shortcake
um no
I live in america
I still say it is one of the best countries, but at the same time fuck America
...
Haha... yes you got me on that one. I would have to agree with you in that case.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr-K
What if their religion is to strip the skin off of puppies and then wear the skin on their heads. Then, they murder the children and eat their flesh?
Dude, that's a fucked up religion that I would like to see bombed.
~Mr. K~
No! He's 13! I can't only be a year older. =/Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
OK. You are fourteen. You have to be fourteen.
I don't really see it as all that impressive that we can bomb people.
Well can YOU bomb people? I rest my case.
~Mr. K~
No, but I could if I was a gigantic world power with more money than god and a megalomaniacal psychopath for a president. Personally I'd be much more impressed if the US would take a break from weapons and justify its obcene resource comsumption rate by helping somebody out for once instead of chucking explosives at them.
Yes... lets hug all the terrorists instead of killing them. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and let's kill the poor, starving citizens of 3rd world countries instead of hugging them.
Fine with me.
Kill everyone.
That's fine if you don't mind being killed yourself.
Nah. I'd much prefer it if other people died.
Exactly what I thought you'd say. You wouldn't, though, if you lived in Iraq and got thirty cents a day to assemble shoes.
That kind of attitude is exactly the same as racism.
But I don't... so why should I give a fuck?Quote:
Originally posted by TK
Exactly what I thought you'd say. You wouldn't, though, if you lived in Iraq and got thirty cents a day to assemble shoes.
Nope. It isn't.Quote:
Originally posted by TK
That kind of attitude is exactly the same as racism.
Think about it for a second.
Racism: People were born a different color than me, so they are not equal to me.
Your attitude: People were born in a different situation than me, so they are not equal to me.
I imagine your argument would be something like "I'm not saying they aren't equal to me, I'm just saying I don't care if they are in a bad situation." But, by doing so, you are not acknowledging their right to exist in humane conditions, which is the same thing as believing them to be unequal to you. The way you are putting it just twists it so it doesn't sound that way.
People that have never directly affected my life = I don't give a fuck about.
So because a person has not affected you, they are inferior to you.
Not inferior, I just don't give two shits about them.Quote:
Originally posted by TK
So because a person has not affected you, they are inferior to you.
Which makes them out to be inferior, even if you don't intend it.
EDIT: Elaborating... if you don't give two shits about them, it means you care about yourself and not them, which means you consider yourself superior, hence them inferior.
Explain to me why I should care about someone that I have never met, will never meet, and will never effect my life in any way.
It does? Look at it this way: A building is burning down. In it are two people; your best friend, and some stranger you've never seen before. You can save one. Who do you choose? If you say the stranger, I'll call you a liar.Quote:
Originally posted by TK
Which makes them out to be inferior, even if you don't intend it.
EDIT: Elaborating... if you don't give two shits about them, it means you care about yourself and not them, which means you consider yourself superior, hence them inferior.
Because if you do, you could affect their life, which is not only something that makes you feel good about yourself, but something that the human race would fall apart if it didn't do. You could have been affected by someone and not even know it. A person could have picked up something you'd have slipped on and broken your neck, thinking someone might slip on it and break their neck. You could have avoided being mugged because a cop took the time to track down and arrest the mugger who would have mugged you. Somewhere along the way, something shitty would have happened to you if someone you will never meet hadn't done something. So do that for someone else. I'm not saying fly to Africa and spend your life helping starving kids. I'm not saying sell everything you own and give the money to charity. All I'm saying is don't support things that cause innocent people to die.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Explain to me why I should care about someone that I have never met, will never meet, and will never effect my life in any way.
Obviously I'd choose my best friend. But this debate is not about a situation where a building is burning down, it's about normal, every day life where you won't lose anything by just not shitting on somebody else. It's not an issue of saving someone, it's an issue of treating people like equal human beings, regardless of whether or not you know them.Quote:
Originally posted by taloony
It does? Look at it this way: A building is burning down. In it are two people; your best friend, and some stranger you've never seen before. You can save one. Who do you choose? If you say the stranger, I'll call you a liar.
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It does? Look at it this way: A building is burning down. In it are two people; your best friend, and some stranger you've never seen before. You can save one. Who do you choose? If you say the stranger, I'll call you a liar.
If you can only save one, it really doesn't matter which one you save, if all we know is that they are the two people in there. You've done the most you could do.
You know TK, I wish I was as idealistic as you. I really do.
But I'm not, and I still don't give much of a fuck about anyone. It isn't for your lack of trying though.
Well, I'm sure you have reasons for feeling the way you do and I don't know a thing about them. Relatively speaking, I've had an easy life, so I totally realize that it's easier for me to adopt that kind of viewpoint than it is for a lot of people. But, you can be that idealistic. It might be hard, but everyone can change their outlook on life if they try, it's only a matter of whether or not you're willing to do it.
Anyway, this has probably been the most interesting conversation I've had on a message board in a pretty long time, and now I'm going to bed because it's 4 AM. Goodnight, folks at home.
I know you're joking, but "Americans" get credit for these bombings all of the time, so yes, I can.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr-K
Well can YOU bomb people? I rest my case.
From the guy calling another 14. The world hates me! I hate the world! :(Quote:
People that have never directly affected my life = I don't give a fuck about.
Kinda like parkinson's disease....Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Explain to me why I should care about someone that I have never met, will never meet, and will never effect my life in any way.
http://www.cnn.com/books/news/9910/2...entury/ali.jpg
:lol:
I ran out of angst many years ago. You lose.Quote:
Originally posted by Rob
From the guy calling another 14. The world hates me! I hate the world! :(
Sorry, I just threw it out there, you know Family Ties and all...Quote:
Originally posted by taloony
Fuck you buddy. *lives in Idaho*
It was an analogy, that's all. I realized what you meant, but that was the best I could come up with off hand..Quote:
Originally posted by TK
Obviously I'd choose my best friend. But this debate is not about a situation where a building is burning down, it's about normal, every day life where you won't lose anything by just not shitting on somebody else. It's not an issue of saving someone, it's an issue of treating people like equal human beings, regardless of whether or not you know them.
If only someone would have hugged those terrorist when they tried to take over those planes... *sigh*
Hmmm I think I'm gonna go air mail my left over dinner to Africa tonight. *Puts dinner in box and stamps "TO AFRICA" on it*
Man... that's better. *Goes to give money to junkee hobos so they can spend it on drugs*
~Mr. K~
Analogies only work if they relate to the thing you are trying to make a point about.Quote:
Originally posted by taloony
It was an analogy, that's all. I realized what you meant, but that was the best I could come up with off hand..
Eh.. To my mind, it did. Just how I think, I suppose. You care more about what you know, basically.
Of course you do. What I'm saying is that it's about caring about people, even if you don't know them. Not caring about them more than or as much as people you know.
Ahh, well I suppose I can see that. I don't agree totally with what 88 was saying up there, I genuinely feel bad when I see something like that, but I think your racism comment was way off base. You're perhaps a bit to defensive about this, really.
I guess we'll be the owningest nation on the charred Earth in a couple years.
1st Iraq and now this...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/arti...865094,00.html
N Korea threatens to 'destroy world'
John Gittings in Hong Kong and Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Tuesday December 24, 2002
The Guardian
Desperate efforts began yesterday to head off the growing Korean crisis as Pyongyang and Washington continued to talk up the tension.
The UN has confirmed that North Korea has carried out its threat to remove UN seals and dismantle monitoring cameras at a laboratory used to produce weapons-grade plutonium.
Senator Joseph Biden, the outgoing chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, warned that North Korea's plan to restart a programme for plutonium extraction could allow it to produce bombs "within months".
A spokesman for the Vienna - based International Atomic Energy Agency said: "There isn't any legitimate purpose for the facility other than separating plutonium from spent fuel."
Pyongyang has issued a series of threats, including one to "destroy the earth" if the US resorted to nuclear war against it. South Korea's president, Kim Dae-jung, and the president-elect, Roh Moo-hyun, sought to calm the mood by saying they wanted a peaceful resolution.
While Russia expressed concern at the North's weekend announcement, the deputy foreign minister warned the US not to aggravate the crisis.
But the US state department yesterday rejected Pyongyang's insistence that the crisis can be solved if the US signs a treaty of non-aggression. "We will not bargain or offer inducements for North Korea to live up to the treaties and agreements it has signed," a spokesman said.
US intelligence sources were quoted by the BBC as saying they believe "North Korea may already have a small number of nuclear bombs and the material to make a few more".
Mr Biden said the crisis was "a greater danger immediately to US interests ... than Saddam Hussein."
Yesterday, the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, dismissed such concerns. "We are capable of fighting two major regional conflicts," he said.
"We're capable of winning decisively in one and swiftly defeating in the case of the other, and let there be no doubt about it."
He said Washington chose to pursue a diplomatic strategy against North Korea for the moment, as that crisis was still at a relatively early stage.
The North Korean media, which is never short of a fiery turn of phrase, has given Bush administration hardliners all the material they may want.
The communist party's newspaper Workers' Daily declared that "the army and people of the DPRK are fully ready to mercilessly strike the bulwark of US imperialist aggressors" - implying that they could hit targets in the US.
"There can be no earth without Korea," it said. "The army and people of the DPRK will destroy the earth if the enemies dare make a nuclear strike at it. This is their do-or-die spirit."
How was I being defensive?Quote:
Originally posted by taloony
Ahh, well I suppose I can see that. I don't agree totally with what 88 was saying up there, I genuinely feel bad when I see something like that, but I think your racism comment was way off base. You're perhaps a bit to defensive about this, really.
These guys are enjoying this too much. Every time the blow someone up the yell bang. WTF is wrong with the military?
Nothing is wrong with the military. If I was firing a fucking cannon I would probably be yelling "bang" or something too.Quote:
Originally posted by ShineAqua
These guys are enjoying this too much. Every time the blow someone up the yell bang. WTF is wrong with the military?
I'd say "CROM!"
ºTracer
I was merely referring to the way you went all out in defending your point of view, that's all. :)Quote:
Originally posted by TK
How was I being defensive?
Shouldn't that be station saying that? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by TracerBullet
I'd say "CROM!"
ºTracer
He didn't know alot about Conan: The Barbarian till I bought the Special Edition DVD :)
I just never pray to him... I have no tounge for it.
ºTracer
All I'm syaing is that they seem to be taking way too much joy in the killing of others. The U.S. millitary is about protecting U.S. citizens from threats both foreign and domestic, not about blowing up stuff and leaving a bloody trail behind you, and enjoying every kill along the way.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Nothing is wrong with the military. If I was firing a fucking cannon I would probably be yelling "bang" or something too.
Uhhh..no.
The US military is about destroying opposing forces by any means necessary, while taking as little damage as possible and creating as much damage as possible.
Why the military goes in, might be politically justified as you say, but the reality is that they are there to make the other people stop fighting, however that be done.
So then they should enjoy killing as much as possible right? That would make them monsters, and I want nothing to do with an army of monsters.Quote:
Originally posted by mattvanstone
Uhhh..no.
The US military is about destroying opposing forces by any means necessary, while taking as little damage as possible and creating as much damage as possible.
Why the military goes in, might be politically justified as you say, but the reality is that they are there to make the other people stop fighting, however that be done.
What do you want them to do, cry?
~Mr. K~
Well almost anythig is good but hooting, hollering, cheering, and dancing on their graves is out.
I think it would be pretty cool to have an army of monsters on our side. Imagine what the enemy would think if they saw entire battalions of vampires, werewolves and zombies approaching them in army fatigues, or driving humvees and tanks. That would be badass. Throw in the shotguns and swords I mentioned earlier and we got ourselves a full fledged Pay-Per-View event.Quote:
Originally posted by ShineAqua
That would make them monsters, and I want nothing to do with an army of monsters.