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Precision my ass. :p The only thing I'm worried about is the framerate... Actually, I'm not worried since I don't have nor plan on getting one. Although I did think about it or pieceing one together so I could have an arcade-perfect portable ESP RaDe.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
Graphically. The control simply has to be awful. I can't imagine how a game that requires the precision of TR coud even be playable on those things.
Well sure tombraider on a pda's gotta be awful, but the more general picture shows large and backlit screened, powerful machines capable of decent 3D graphics approaching the $200ish level. Give it another couple years and that will probably leak over into portable gaming in general.
That won't happen while Nintendo still has a strong-hold on the portable market.
You left out stolen, unless you have a PCB and a portable Super Gun in those plans.Quote:
Originally posted by MechDeus
Although I did think about it or pieceing one together so I could have an arcade-perfect portable ESP RaDe.
I'd just like to note that I sell Palms/Pocket PCs for a living, so I have to stare at the Tungsten's/Clie's screen at least a few minutes a day while I'm selling them to customers. The screens are EXTREMELY nice.....for Palm handhelds. Compare the screens to a newer HP/Compaq/Toshiba, and you'll notice a huge difference.Quote:
Originally posted by Six
The new OS5 (Sony NX & Tungsten) units have the highres screens and power that you "need" in a PDA. The pocketPC units approach the PDA more like a PC - more of anything is always better - which accounts for their increased power processors and memory, IMHO.
I'm from the camp that renounces such utitlity devices as a PDA for use in anything more serious than Bejeweled or similar time wasters. Any serious gaming on a PDA would require an entire overhaul of the input systems. Granted there are "controller accessories" (Sony controller accessory) that attempt the replicate a gamepad, but my experiences with them have been disappointing at best.
Again, see the new units from Palm Tungsten and Sony Sony NX Series or the new NZ series are competing with the PocketPCs in terms of color/graphical resolution and processing power. In addition there are some new models from HP that cater to the lower end market of PocketPC users like the HP h1910. Things are looking good for both the Palm (more power) and PocketPC (affordability) sides.
Again I think that this is misleading ;) My Sony NX60 can play Mpeg and Mp3, comes with a headphone/remote set for the mp3 player function, has a larger highres screen and has processing power to spare for games. I just didn't purchase my Palm unit or my cell phone with the gaming aspect in mind - it's not what they were designed for IMHO.
I think that until thought in the design aspect is given to gaming the PDA game scene won't be going beyond the state it is in now.
I gotta go eat. Just my $0.02
#6
And just to clarify, I'm not saying "Go out and buy a PDA to play games on, the controls are spot on and it's great and fun and stuff!". I just wanted to let people know that you CAN play some extremely sweet 3D games, as well as some classics, on PDAs.
Actually, the processor is extremely important. Especially when talking about GAMING. Quake doesn't run well at all on anything but an ARM processor(or something more recent/more powerful). I think it was worth mentioning, at least.Quote:
Originally posted by DArque Bishop
Hrm.
I have two PDA's right now... a Handspring Visor Pro, and a Handspring Visor. Like the Sony PDA's, they run PalmOS. The Pro is actually my primary PDA; the original Visor is kept at home w/o batteries in case anything should happen to the Pro. I also have a VisorPhone attachment for the Visors, which let them act as my cell phone. If I leave the house, the PDA's coming with me.
That said, other than a copy of SolFree (Solitaire), I have absolutely no games on my Visors, and I don't plan on getting any. These devices are purely for function IMHO; if I want to have anything more than a quick cardgame if I'm out and about, I'll take my GBA with me. I just don't see the point unless you have something that's actually designed for gaming. Quake on a PocketPC? Yuck.
(BTW, for the record, andyrose, you're probably one of the very few people I've met who prefers PocketPC devices to Palms. I guess it's a matter of personal preference; at where I work, you almost never see PocketPC's anymore. Those who have had them have since switched to Handspring or Palm devices.)
Edit: There's also one other point I should bring up... there's no real point bringing up that the PocketPC devices are more powerful than their PalmOS-based bretheren, because unless I'm mistaken, PocketPC 2002 requires more powerful hardware to run on than PalmOS does. :)
But do you use your servers to play games? Because that's what I was hinting at when discussing the processor speed. :pQuote:
Such comparisons can backfire; we have two production proxy servers at the office running MS Windows 2000 Server w/ MS ISA proxy software, and so far my test proxy server running Red Hat Linux 8.0 w/ Squid 2.5 STABLE1 proxy software is going as fast (if not faster) than the production servers... and the test server's processor speed and memory is about half that of the production servers. :)
Just my $.02...
Here's Taito's latest take on Mobile/PDA gaming.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...10/taito01.gif
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...10/taito02.gif
Better than Tomb Raider IMO:sweat:
Wow, that shooting game looks pretty damn cool.
Some of my personal faves in Palm gaming are:
Spy Hunter. If you own a palm, you MUST get this game. It is THE killer app of Palm OS. Works great on both a color or a greyscale screen.
Evil UFO's. Hard as a mother, but it's fun.
Simcity: Pretty good, but hard to tell what's going on unless you have a color PDA.
Galax: Galaxian clone, but a damn good one. I actually prefer it to Galaxian that's on Namco Museum for GBA. Not as good as Galaga, though.
Monopoly: It's monopoly, and it is 4 players. It's good, although when I'm on the Palm I'm not sitting there long enough to really get a good game going.
Palmasutra: What? That's not a game! Fun to have though...
Since I switched to an Ipaq, I haven't really messed with it for gaming much, but I did get Pacman and Ms Pacman on it, and the conversions are great. The Ipaq itself, though, isn't so hot. The control pad on it would be good for slow-paced games, but Pacman gets hectic after a few levels and the arrow keys are too far apart. Pushing the pad down also counts as a seperate button which can be annoying.
I agree with the difference in the screens, but I don't see it as being quite a "huge" difference. :) I'll try to do a thorough screen comparison tonight at work (since business has hit the after Christmas slump) though I won't deny that the Toshiba has a really nice screen - bright with wonderful color. But to me it all comes down to ease of OS use, software support and compatibility (with friends and associates PDAs - most of which own mid to low end Palm machines).Quote:
Originally posted by andyrose
I'd just like to note that I sell Palms/Pocket PCs for a living, so I have to stare at the Tungsten's/Clie's screen at least a few minutes a day while I'm selling them to customers. The screens are EXTREMELY nice.....for Palm handhelds. Compare the screens to a newer HP/Compaq/Toshiba, and you'll notice a huge difference.
And just to clarify, I'm not saying "Go out and buy a PDA to play games on, the controls are spot on and it's great and fun and stuff!". I just wanted to let people know that you CAN play some extremely sweet 3D games, as well as some classics, on PDAs.
I didn't think that you *were* claiming the PDA as the Gameboy killer (I don't think any sane individual would), I just wanted to state my experiences with PDA games - though my PPC gaming has been minimal. I need to try Tomb Raider and Quake before I give up completely and should probably shut up until I do :sweat:
I don't know.
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Heh. I've decided that playing Quake on my PPC isn't as fun as I originally thought it was. Moving around is a complete and total bitch. Actually aiming and shooting enemies is hard as hell.
I'm still messing with the NES Mame emulator for it, apparently it'll take some haxoring to even get a game to RUN, let alone run well.
Palm has a gameboy emulator for it's OS, although I forget the name. Can't say I ever got it to work right, but I've heard from people that have used it.