State of the Union Address tonight, 8PM Central Time.
Who'll be watching? I know I will; I'll make sure I get my pop and favorite chair beforehand.
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State of the Union Address tonight, 8PM Central Time.
Who'll be watching? I know I will; I'll make sure I get my pop and favorite chair beforehand.
I might see some of it, I get home from school at like 8:30 pm, and then the Sheild comes on at 9 PM and the Sheild is more important then the world so who knows. I can catch up on all of it on the many Talk radio programs I listen to. No worries here bucko! Jimmy do you listen to any of the local Talk Radio shows? If so, which?
Well, I rarely hear any of the local guys. If I tune into AM1500, it's usually at lunch time (on break), so I hear Limbaugh. As for AM 1280 The Patriot, I'll hear the noon guy once in a while, but if I have the radio on, it's usually AM1500.
Sometimes I'll catch Jason Lewis on my way home from work (probably will do so tonight; see what his thoughts are).
I'm going to be watching it on ABC, since my mother is working on it. YAY.
You mean SODA dont you?Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
I know I will; I'll make sure I get my pop and favorite chair beforehand.
Rush and Lewis tend to whip themselves into a fit to often. I use to listen to them but they flip out to much. I am a big fan of KFAN 1130, sports radio but from 12-2 is Dan "The Common Man" Cole and he talks about everything but radio and its usually funny. I am also a big fan of Garage Logic with Joe Sucharay on AM1500, that starts at 2 and goes till 5. Great stuff. I love teh radio.
I haven't been paying attention to the news very much recently, so I didn't even hear about this. I'll probably end up watching it though. Outside of Buffy and 24, theres nothing else on :p
*Holds up a sign that says SODA4LIFE*
:bang:
Well Buffy counts as nothing.
Silence! I don't need your guff. It is pop. Unless you live in Kentucky. Then it's Coke. Doesn't make a lick of sense, though.Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
You mean SODA dont you?
But in all seriousness, I'm glad someone caught that. I was waiting for someone to comment on my usage of "pop". Minnesotan. Heck yeah.
Bah! Well it won't be on during Buffy, otherwise I'd be in a real quzybuk.Quote:
Originally posted by Clash_Master
Well Buffy counts as nothing.
I haven't watched the State of the Union since the Carter administration.
I use to use the term Pop for a long time as well, being Minnesotan. But I then decided to use Soda, becuase it sounds better. But in all fairness both make sense, its Soda Pop after all. Both are shortened ways of saying it.
And Sl1p you are confused, even if Buffy was on during the State of the Union it would not matter, the show sucks. So whats the problem?
State of the what address, is that a Carrot Top thing?
I'll be watching it :cool:
I'll be watching it, definately.
Me? No.
I'll just watch the news at 11. It'll tell me enough.
HEY! You guys know that uhh..stuff? Yeah, we should do this about it. ______________________ Not that we're going to, but you know....HEY!
:rolleyes:
I stopped watching. Too good of an episode of the Simpsons on right now to pass it up. If he says anything worth listening to, I'll catch the news tonight =\
I watched.
Wow. We have alot of money. :D
Every 10 minutes the country lost another 5-15 billion dollars. :p
I'm sort of listening to it. I watched a bit at first, and love the way our country is showing a unified front. <sarcasm>
Wow, I was impressed; I did not expect to hear what I heard tonight. The 1.2 billion for hydrogen fuel got cheers from my house, that's for sure.
Overall, I thought he did a really good job. I expected to be disappointed and not hear anything good; instead, I heard more than a few things that made me happy. I thought his message about Iraq was adequate and that Powell will be presenting our intelligence info next week was reassuring about that situation; it let me know that indeed, our country has its reasons for its actions.
He didn't make any big mistakes..that I noticed, at least. :D
I was impressed with the AIDs plan for Africa, myself.
About time, the state of the union has been "confused" IMO.Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
that Powell will be presenting our intelligence info next week was reassuring about that situation; it let me know that indeed, our country has its reasons for its actions.
um i cant stand watching it
cause all those fucks are clap happy, and like to stand up to clap every two seconds
there is no fucking reason for that, shut the fuck up and let him finish his speech then clap
that makes the speech 3 times as long as it needs to be
If i was president I would tell those fools to wait until i was done and then clap
I missed it... what did I miss?
If you've the time/patience: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2704365.stm
Real A/V: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/ev...nion/state.ram
Gon
Well, the thing is, the clapping is very, very political. Every clap can be seen as an endorsement for whatever the president is running. For instance, you'll see the Republicans clapping for damn near everything he says, because they're expected to... but if you watch the rest of the audience, nobody else is moving unless it's a safe, acceptable policy-- otherwise it could be considered a political suicide for that individual to applaud.Quote:
Originally posted by Strawberry Shortcake
there is no fucking reason for that, shut the fuck up and let him finish his speech then clap
I think the clapping is where the entertainment value comes from! The sort of unenthused half claps coming from the Democrats/Indys versus the child-like rabid enthusiasm of the Republican represenatives after every single statement is greatly amusing.
'THE COURSE OF THIS NATION DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE DECISIONS OF OTHERS'
*clapclapclapclapclap*
And you'd rather us follow whatever course the UN would set for us?Quote:
Originally posted by Yeller_Dog
'THE COURSE OF THIS NATION DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE DECISIONS OF OTHERS'
*clapclapclapclapclap*
I still find it annoying, Id rather read the shit, but thats just me :)Quote:
Well, the thing is, the clapping is very, very political. Every clap can be seen as an endorsement for whatever the president is running. For instance, you'll see the Republicans clapping for damn near everything he says, because they're expected to... but if you watch the rest of the audience, nobody else is moving unless it's a safe, acceptable policy-- otherwise it could be considered a political suicide for that individual to applaud.
I think the clapping is where the entertainment value comes from! The sort of unenthused half claps coming from the Democrats/Indys versus the child-like rabid enthusiasm of the Republican represenatives after every single statement is greatly amusing.
Sometimes, yes?Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
And you'd rather us follow whatever course the UN would set for us?
I'm all for self-determination, but sometimes, when I think of renegade states, I sometimes think of the US.
Especially in the way that political Pundits describe "renegade."
I wish 24 was on. Damn and their lets not show it for 3 weeks politics !!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Sl1p
I haven't been paying attention to the news very much recently, so I didn't even hear about this. I'll probably end up watching it though. Outside of Buffy and 24, theres nothing else on :p
*Holds up a sign that says SODA4LIFE*
:bang:
As for the speech in question, no I havent watched that. Spent evening with DMC2.
I will be dead before I see the day that the UN sets our course of action or dictates our acitivies. The UN is nothing but a gathering of anti-US, anti-Semite complainers.Quote:
Originally posted by Briscobold
Sometimes, yes?
The UN is irrelevant in every function it was formed for. It doesn't keep peace, it doesn't ensure rights. The basic rights of mankind are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So we have the right to be alive, free and able to work for whatever it is we want. Why is China part of the UN? Why is Libya leading the Human Rights Commission? Easy; the UN is irrelevant and worthless.
Too allow a group that says it endorses freedom, but embraces communism; that says it endorses life but embraces the death of people who're working for freedom; that says it endorses the ability of people to define for destiny yet embraces government control of thought and process- to allow a group like this to define American activities would be nothing short of catastrophic.
From what I saw I thought he did a pretty good job. I agreed with the reasons to attack Iraq in the first place, and he just cleared up what the Inspectors were doing for me a little bit. I LOVED the part about Doctor Liability, people are to Sue crazy as it is, we don't need to make Docotrs scared to take action against ilness and injury. The Hydrogen car deal rocks, and the aids and drug prevention ideas seemed pretty good to me. His ecominic stuff and medicare plans did not seem all that concrete, but things could work better if the Democrats would help out more then just shut him out, but thats expected with our current bipartisan madness. Over all I liked what I saw. I missed the last bits since "The Shield" started at 9:00. But I got the rest during the news.
Yeah, what the hell? There hasn't been a new 24 in like...forever :(Quote:
Originally posted by Despair
I wish 24 was on. Damn and their lets not show it for 3 weeks politics !!!!
American Idol I think has bumbed it off the map for a while. I don't watch 24 but I believe I saw an ad for a new 24 sometime in Febuary. Sucks for you guys.
24 will be back next Tuesday.
I was really surprised at the proposal for money to go towards hydrogen power. I would've thought this administration would be completely against that, what with their track record so far. Bush's oil buddies can't be enjoying that too much, unless his plan involves helping them get a part of the hydrogen-fuel industry. In any case, I'm really glad to see that get attention from the executive branch. Down with the internal combustion engine. It's time for a change.
No, but some guidance taken from someone other than the ultraradical cadre of Reaganites dictating U.S. foreign policy would be nice.Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
And you'd rather us follow whatever course the UN would set for us?
Man, my ears are twitching! Last night the Gov from Washintgon said that Bush proposed "backwards economics" and now this! Maybe some of the people are right, maybe this is Reagan all over again! Excellent. I had to miss out on the first round, being born in '82 and all. So this time, I get to sit front row. Fabulous!Quote:
Originally posted by sleeveboy
No, but some guidance taken from someone other than the ultraradical cadre of Reaganites dictating U.S. foreign policy would be nice.
And as it is, the "ultraradical cadre of Reaganites" are oddly enough inline with most public opinion polls. Seems that the public is turning into a "ultraradical cadre of Reaganites".
Remember when I said that? What? I didn't say that at all? Oh. Gotcha.Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
And you'd rather us follow whatever course the UN would set for us?
I don't give two damns about the UN. I do, however, feel the effects of a war with Iraq will impact the surrounding region, and our country's relationship with the rest of the planet. As a US citizen who sometimes likes to *gasp!* actually go outside the US now and then, I'd really prefer if the government didn't go about saying "your opinion doesn't matter" to the rest of the world...
Nevermind that the "War on Terror" doesn't do anything about 'real' terror, I.E. getting mugged, carjacked, randomly shot, etc., and by people from your own country, no less... I think those are bigger worries than "weapons of mass destruction".
On the other foot, what's funny is I actually liked a lot of the key points of Bush's speech. Alternitive power research? Rock on! Money going to AIDS in Africa? Hey, about time!
Lowering taxes so we can't pay for any of it? Great idea!-- wait...
*stands up and claps*Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
I will be dead before I see the day that the UN sets our course of action or dictates our acitivies. The UN is nothing but a gathering of anti-US, anti-Semite complainers.
The UN is irrelevant in every function it was formed for. It doesn't keep peace, it doesn't ensure rights. The basic rights of mankind are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So we have the right to be alive, free and able to work for whatever it is we want. Why is China part of the UN? Why is Libya leading the Human Rights Commission? Easy; the UN is irrelevant and worthless.
Too allow a group that says it endorses freedom, but embraces communism; that says it endorses life but embraces the death of people who're working for freedom; that says it endorses the ability of people to define for destiny yet embraces government control of thought and process- to allow a group like this to define American activities would be nothing short of catastrophic.
The inclusion of Communist nations has to be put into political context (read: it had to be done, or else WWIII).Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
I will be dead before I see the day that the UN sets our course of action or dictates our acitivies. The UN is nothing but a gathering of anti-US, anti-Semite complainers.
The UN is irrelevant in every function it was formed for. It doesn't keep peace, it doesn't ensure rights. The basic rights of mankind are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So we have the right to be alive, free and able to work for whatever it is we want. Why is China part of the UN? Why is Libya leading the Human Rights Commission? Easy; the UN is irrelevant and worthless.
Too allow a group that says it endorses freedom, but embraces communism; that says it endorses life but embraces the death of people who're working for freedom; that says it endorses the ability of people to define for destiny yet embraces government control of thought and process- to allow a group like this to define American activities would be nothing short of catastrophic.
Libya's inclusion, well, I'll give you that; it's hard to extol the virtues of freedom and then include Libya in your organization.
I will grant you another thing: the UN is currently worthless, because UN is weak. Very weak. Not as weak as the LON, but weak nonetheless.
However, the spirit in which it was created, and its purpose, should not be over looked. Some checks to the US, and her policies, should exist. Although a unipolar world system has been stable for the past, um, 11 years, I don't like the fact that the US has free sway to do what it wishes, regardless of world support, esp. when it effects the world. No, I'm not suggesting that the US can do whatever the hell it wants with impunity, I'm just saying it can do more than other nations without suitable counter-vailing forces to oppose them, or make them reconsider.
Let me say that I do support the war (against Iraq). I just don't like the way they're going about it.
The UN could at least provide some counter-vailing force against US actions, only if it were strong.
BTW: UN = anti-US: probably has something to do with US foreign policy (issues like the war on Iraq)
UN = anti-semites: I've never heard this one before. Wanna enlighten me?
Um, dude, he was talking to me. You sound angry...Quote:
Originally posted by Yeller_Dog
Remember when I said that? What? I didn't say that at all? Oh. Gotcha.
I don't give two damns about the UN. I do, however, feel the effects of a war with Iraq will impact the surrounding region, and our country's relationship with the rest of the planet. As a US citizen who sometimes likes to *gasp!* actually go outside the US now and then, I'd really prefer if the government didn't go about saying "your opinion doesn't matter" to the rest of the world...
Nevermind that the "War on Terror" doesn't do anything about 'real' terror, I.E. getting mugged, carjacked, randomly shot, etc., and by people from your own country, no less... I think those are bigger worries than "weapons of mass destruction".
On the other foot, what's funny is I actually liked a lot of the key points of Bush's speech. Alternitive power research? Rock on! Money going to AIDS in Africa? Hey, about time!
Lowering taxes so we can't pay for any of it? Great idea!-- wait...
Not originally he wasn't, anyway. I'm just late responding.Quote:
Um, dude, he was talking to me. You sound angry...
And no, not angry. :D
I just didn't want you to start freaking out on Carter for the UN comment. That's all.
UN sucks. If you don't agree go dig up a few comentaries on why it does suck. You might be suprised at the names of the writers.
It's all about implication. You were mocking the applause of the audience for stating that nobody but the US will decide what the US will do.Quote:
Originally posted by Yeller_Dog
Remember when I said that? What? I didn't say that at all? Oh. Gotcha.
Funny, almost every other government says "your opinion doesn't matter" to us. France? Germany, anyone? A country should always act for its own best intentions without, or with little, interruption of other countries' business.Quote:
I don't give two damns about the UN. I do, however, feel the effects of a war with Iraq will impact the surrounding region, and our country's relationship with the rest of the planet. As a US citizen who sometimes likes to *gasp!* actually go outside the US now and then, I'd really prefer if the government didn't go about saying "your opinion doesn't matter" to the rest of the world...
As for the surrounding region, they already hate Israel and the US, what on earth will us taking out a dictator do to that standing? Iran's Tehran (sp) hates us. The Saudis play lip service to us while funding the families of terrorists. Very few people beyond Israel and Turkey like us in the region and our actions will do little to affect that.
You're confusing two problems here. One: street crimes and such are domestic/local problems. Problems for the police and domestic intelligence (read: FBI), not the military. Unless of course you'd like Bush to declare Martial Law.Quote:
Nevermind that the "War on Terror" doesn't do anything about 'real' terror, I.E. getting mugged, carjacked, randomly shot, etc., and by people from your own country, no less... I think those are bigger worries than "weapons of mass destruction".
Next, the WMD problem has much more potential terror than street crimes and the fact that carjacking is in your list of problems "bigger" than WMD and foreign terrorists worries me. But as it is, this is a problem for the military and foreign intelligence (read: NSA, CIA). There are seperate units for seperate problems and thusly, no problem is ignored.
Worked for Reagan in the 80's, I see no reason why it should fail now. He raised spending on military and other fronts while cutting taxes. What happened? The economy boomed into the longest sustained time of prosperity ever. Every single income bracket experience growth, nobody was left behind. Businesses popped up everywhere while everyone brought home more of their paychecks. The government did very well and could afford every new project.Quote:
On the other foot, what's funny is I actually liked a lot of the key points of Bush's speech. Alternitive power research? Rock on! Money going to AIDS in Africa? Hey, about time!
Lowering taxes so we can't pay for any of it? Great idea!-- wait...
Quote:
UN = anti-semites: I've never heard this one before. Wanna enlighten me?
It's a long story, you'd have to watch how they deal with Israel. Which in itself is a massively complex situation that cannot be fully discussed in this thread, as it would take too much time.
They often overlook crimes against Jewish people, they serve as a massive complaint post against Israel (watch closely the things people say, it gets downright frightening at the lack of logic displayed by these people). You just need to watch the situation closely in order to fully understand it.
No, I was indeed talking to him, Brisco. And he did seem angry but hey, that's his right.Quote:
Um, dude, he was talking to me. You sound angry...
And a note to Sleeveboy: My Reagan comment was not meant to offend. I want to get a pre-emptive in here as when I thought about it, it seemed like it could have seemed to be a mockery of what you'd said. Reagan, as it is, is my favorite president so when people compare the current situation to him, I'm happy. Should you dislike Reagan, as it seemed, that's quite alright. I just think he's cool.
You know what? Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to keep an eye on this.Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Carter
It's a long story, you'd have to watch how they deal with Israel. Which in itself is a massively complex situation that cannot be fully discussed in this thread, as it would take too much time.
They often overlook crimes against Jewish people, they serve as a massive complaint post against Israel (watch closely the things people say, it gets downright frightening at the lack of logic displayed by these people). You just need to watch the situation closely in order to fully understand it.