Well, that's true. I was really surprised to find out it even had an FM radio on top of all that other stuff.Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Games alone aren't selling me on it.
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Well, that's true. I was really surprised to find out it even had an FM radio on top of all that other stuff.Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Games alone aren't selling me on it.
I will use the example of a person that is the opposite of me then. I said that I don't have or need a mobile but that it would be nice to have one. I think this may be true for many others.... But how about the person who always wants/needs to have a mobile with them? That person may not have the time or room for a GBA. But if you combine these two portable handheld electronoic devices, which is pretty logical since they both have screens and buttons and whatnot, it may be easier for them to get into handheld gaming.Quote:
Originally posted by Shin Johnpv
yes but this goes back to what i said
DVD and Games have something in common
DVD is the format the games are on
therefore it makes sense to add dvd playback to a console
combining a gaming platform and a cell phone just doesnt make sense to me but thats me
they dont fit together to me
Maybe it does not make sense for you personally, which is understandable.. it may not make sense for me either since I don't really want a phone.... but I think the concept definitely makes sense considering the big picture and that this convergence of portable electronics is going to be a trend we'll see more of in the future.
I think it's good for gaming too... because left to Nintendo handheld gaming will continue to stagnate because of Nintendo's cheapness and greedyness (I guess you can't blame them for making gobs of money though). Nokia is already bringing some great ideas to the table.... so it's my hope that N-Gage forces future handheld machines to adopt things like decent D-pads and Bluetooth multiplayer gaming. :)
On the main Nokia website it says that they have not officially announced it for the US yet because they're waiting to receive FCC clearance or something. When they finally announce I'd assume they'll have more options...Quote:
Originally posted by Ex Ranza
Tracer, the only carrier so far that's announced they'll definitely have it is T-Mobile.
But I'm sure many more will come on, since it won't be out till 4Q 2003. Both Sprint and Verizon might be questionable, since they're pushing their own cell games.
I support it because it has the distinct possibility of breaking into the handheld market, and forcing Nintendo to put out something other than complete garbage and 16-bit games.
And John, go do some research into i-mode and Japan's wireless internet cell phone infrastructure. Its fantastic. The games that they play on their cell phones against each other and stuff is great. A more advanced version of that is possible with the wireless internet access.And if wireless gaming is a platform, then making cell phone capabilities makes sense.
You're looking at this thing from the monopolistic bare-bones viewpoint that Nintendo looks at it from, when in reality the handheld gaming market can be far ahead of the 16-bit world its in now.
And I didnt even look at the website.
id rather see a REAL handheld come out to comepete with nintendoQuote:
Originally posted by sggg
I think it's good for gaming too... because left to Nintendo handheld gaming will continue to stagnate because of Nintendo's cheapness and greedyness (I guess you can't blame them for making gobs of money though). Nokia is already bringing some great ideas to the table.... so it's my hope that N-Gage forces future handheld machines to adopt things like decent D-pads and Bluetooth multiplayer gaming. :)
than this thing
like some one else said a cell phone with a simple camera and a simple small LCD screen retails at a couple hundred bucks i some how do not think this is going to be in the competitive pricing with a GBA
you figure you can get a GBA for 70 bucks or the SP for 100
this thing better be in the 150 - 200 range TOPS or IMHO I dont see it taking much market share away from Nintendo
I'll agree on the price. If it costs $300 I would not even think about it personally (tho I will still hope it does well!).
I think it depends on how they plan on selling it. If it is marketed and sold like a mobile phone then even a high price tag may not be so bad. It's quite common to get $200-300 phones for free for signing up for certain plans and whatnot. My g/f got a $200 phone for free with no long term commitment or contract, for example.
Something creative like that could take the sting out of a high price point.
Plus, you will be getting a lot more than just a game machine for the price. You're getting an mp3 player and a phone. So, it stands to reason that it should cost more than a GBA. It's worth a lot more.
I like their site. 3D cult model to rotate and scale. Too bad there are no screenshots. I also like their approach to developers, download the Free SDK and if you want to become an official developer, register with them by showing them a demo of your game. This is much better than the Nintendo policy of "suck my dick and I'll let you in".
My one complaint is that the screen is an odd square aspect ratio and we're very accustomed to looking in rectanglular ones.
Here's (Low Bandw.) a video of Series 60 games and developers talking about them.
Relevant Specs (from this page):
Platform: Series 60 Platform Smartphone
Processor: 104 MHz ARM processor
Dimensions: 133h x 69.7w x 19.7d(mm)
Weight: 135 g
Display: 176 x 208 pixels, pixel ratio: HxV 1:1(see weird)
Active Area: 35 x 41.5 mm
Color Depth: 4096 colors, 12-bit (Neo Geoish)
Memory(built-in flash): 4mb (up to 128mb externally)
Sound: 1 loud speaker
Connections: WAP OTA, Bluetooth, USB PC Suite, e-mail attachment, MMS(memory flash cards)
More powerful than the Playstation... yummy.
seen
hey i saw. on some site.. that nintendo has a cellphone version of the GBA sp.. let me look for the pic..
im not saying the games that would come for it would be bad or that the games they play now on it are badQuote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
And John, go do some research into i-mode and Japan's wireless internet cell phone infrastructure. Its fantastic. The games that they play on their cell phones against each other and stuff is great. A more advanced version of that is possible with the wireless internet access.And if wireless gaming is a platform, then making cell phone capabilities makes sense.
i just dont see the purpose of combining the 2 technologies in this way, I dont know from my PERSONAL experience
when ever you take and combine 2 things into 1, one of two things happen either
a. it does both things shitty
b. it excells at one and the other is kinda meh
but like i said its my personal opinion
its like those fax copiers printers in one, every one of those things ive had to use for different reasons has always sucked at something
id rather buy a seperate copier, printer and fax cause one of those combined units will never do everything i want that a stand alone one will
look at the PS2 and Xbox sure for MOST people they do fine as DVD players and game systems for me i dont like the playback on either one of them and one could get a dvd player for 75 bucks with more dvd features than either of those 2
Id rather see nokia release a portable gaming system that used their Cell phone technology to make it a online portable multiplayer system
instead of a handheld/cell phone in one
but thats me
I happen to like the GBA screen ratio... but the NGPC screen was almost square and it did a damn fine job. :)Quote:
Originally posted by seen
My one complaint is that the screen is an odd square aspect ratio and we're very accustomed to looking in rectanglular ones.
Maybe it'll be nice for vertical shmups.... how about they port that Japanese ESP Ra.De mobile game to N-Gage?! Pleeease...:sweat:
i'll pick it up when it hits the bargain bin two months after its release...