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The Wind Waker has an awesome artistic style and I hope they keep it in the series. Cell shading fits the game and is done extremely well.
Windfall is beautiful with it's ashy spores in the air, the ocean is also just as beautiful and the free roaming of it all is just breathtaking. I am overjoyed with how much bang I got for my buck here.
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Originally posted by Hero
it's a Xenogears thing
Bingo!
Next time i'll label:(
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Originally posted by Shin Johnpv
to me its kinda like Castlevania
ill explain
Ganon is like Dracula in the vania series always coming back, and Link and Zelda are bassicaly the Belmont Family
so while its a physically different person each time fighting the eternal evil its the same line
I got a chance to play Zelda The Wind Waker for a bit of time (that is, around 7-10 hours). Here are my thoughts, being totally honest:
01. The graphics are GREAT. Art design is exemplary. You can tell Nintendo really cared, as everything in the game looks great.
02. I love how Nintendo set up the game world... it feels a lot richer and more interesting than past Zeldas. Especially since you enounter so much shit out in the ocean... has a really cool adventure feel that the other ones didn't have.
03. Along those lines... the sense of adventure, the "full world" feeling, all that, is amazing. Nintendo REALLY succeeded here. Great game feel. Very rich.
Now onto the bad...
04. Umm... the camera stinks. It's really bad. It seemed to be where I wanted it to be about... 50% of the time. Which is not a good percentage.
05. For that matter, I dont like the control at all. Sure, sure, I know that this control scheme was heralded as "brilliant" back when Zelda V was released... but I dont think its all that great. It's hard to get really immersed in a game when you constantly have to map items to different keys and shit (I know, I know, it's been going on since the first Zelda, but I dunno, it feels like a drawback). Plus, the problem is WORSE than it was in the 2D Zeldas, because you have to worry about the context-sensitive actions... "wait, let me check the corner of my screen to see if I can grab something"... I dont like the control much at all.
06. The dungeons are great... for a Zelda... but I dunno, I dont think Im a very big fan of the overly puzzly nature of them. A lot of the puzzles are brilliant (the water level with the stone statues you control in particular) from a "wow, the designers sure are imaginative" sort of way, but they didn't seem much fun.
07. The storyline is kinda wack... Nintendo doesn't really have great storytellers...
Overall... I do think this is the best Zelda yet... its leaps and bounds ahead of Ocarina of Time... and its a lot of fun... but I dunno Im thinking maybe this series has been overrated for a long time... the puzzly nature of the gameplay can be a turn-off, and yea, like I said, I dont like the control or the camera.
Still a damn good game though... if I had a GameCube I would get it ASAP. In fact, its weird... on one hand I think the game is excellent, wonderful even, and on the other hand... well the Zelda formula is starting the get old and tired... its to the point where you pretty much just know what to do all the time because it's keeping in line with past Zeldas...
I got to the forest dungeon today. I really want to be able to sail where I want to, on the way to a new place I'm constantly pulling over to some new little island. As for the visuals, I didn't think the graphics were the best I'd ever seen till I got to the fire dungeon. The fire dungeon boss is the biggest boss in videogame history, right?
You really don't like the camera diff? I think it's one of the best. Most of the times I find it to be in the perfect position, and if not a quick flick of the c-stick makes things fine again. I've only had the camera freak out on me once during the battle with the boss in the second dungeon. I was next to a wall and the boss had me trapped between it's claws, the camera got way to close and I couldn't see which way to avoid the incoming plume of fire.
Hahaha, oh how the tables have turned...Quote:
Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
I picked up Wind Waker today but I'm putting it on the shelf until I finish Xenosaga. I doubt I'll be able to restrain myself that long though.
You make some interesting points and most of them are valid but not big enough to damper the whole experience. I actually feel that the control scheme is what separates Zelda from a ton of other games. You have to strategize in certain circumstances. Just preference, I suppose.Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
I got a chance to play Zelda The Wind Waker for a bit of time (that is, around 7-10 hours). Here are my thoughts, being totally honest:
01. The graphics are GREAT. Art design is exemplary. You can tell Nintendo really cared, as everything in the game looks great.
02. I love how Nintendo set up the game world... it feels a lot richer and more interesting than past Zeldas. Especially since you enounter so much shit out in the ocean... has a really cool adventure feel that the other ones didn't have.
03. Along those lines... the sense of adventure, the "full world" feeling, all that, is amazing. Nintendo REALLY succeeded here. Great game feel. Very rich.
Now onto the bad...
04. Umm... the camera stinks. It's really bad. It seemed to be where I wanted it to be about... 50% of the time. Which is not a good percentage.
05. For that matter, I dont like the control at all. Sure, sure, I know that this control scheme was heralded as "brilliant" back when Zelda V was released... but I dont think its all that great. It's hard to get really immersed in a game when you constantly have to map items to different keys and shit (I know, I know, it's been going on since the first Zelda, but I dunno, it feels like a drawback). Plus, the problem is WORSE than it was in the 2D Zeldas, because you have to worry about the context-sensitive actions... "wait, let me check the corner of my screen to see if I can grab something"... I dont like the control much at all.
06. The dungeons are great... for a Zelda... but I dunno, I dont think Im a very big fan of the overly puzzly nature of them. A lot of the puzzles are brilliant (the water level with the stone statues you control in particular) from a "wow, the designers sure are imaginative" sort of way, but they didn't seem much fun.
07. The storyline is kinda wack... Nintendo doesn't really have great storytellers...
Overall... I do think this is the best Zelda yet... its leaps and bounds ahead of Ocarina of Time... and its a lot of fun... but I dunno Im thinking maybe this series has been overrated for a long time... the puzzly nature of the gameplay can be a turn-off, and yea, like I said, I dont like the control or the camera.
Still a damn good game though... if I had a GameCube I would get it ASAP. In fact, its weird... on one hand I think the game is excellent, wonderful even, and on the other hand... well the Zelda formula is starting the get old and tired... its to the point where you pretty much just know what to do all the time because it's keeping in line with past Zeldas...
The camera is probably the worst thing in the game, but it doesn't seem to folly around in most scenarios and since you can control it freely in most circumstances, it works well enough. Not perfect.
Traversing the ocean is so fun, though. I know the Japanese gamers got sick of it but man, so far I can't get enough. Mind you I've only been playing it for a couple of hours.
The storyline isn't rich with plot twists like MGS or anything and it won't win awards but it keeps you immersed with the character, which is where a ton of richness in the series lays -- with the characters.
I'm actually stuck on what to do with that bird girl. I threw her into the cave and... oh wait. I best not say anything. I guess we just look for different things in a gaming experience.
Two views, both with the same outset: the game is awesome.
I'd give it GOTY thus far, but who knows with the next 3 quarters hold.
Andrew:
Use the bottle to get some water by the rock. Use the water on a withered bomb flower, and throw it at the rock. Then the spring fills up again and you can swim it
Hope that helps.
Questions like these are the reasons my brain explodes anytime anyone tries to find plot continuity when it it isn't there to be found.Quote:
Originally posted by Astral
Question is, does Link and Zelda have a Fei and Elly type life cycle thingy happening?