No prob, Satsuki. I knew what you meant, but I wanted another reason to post this pic :)
I wished they'd have used that female Donovan instead of the one we know
No prob, Satsuki. I knew what you meant, but I wanted another reason to post this pic :)
I wished they'd have used that female Donovan instead of the one we know
What's up with (Buruma) Phobos?
Seems like there's some serious eye-poppin going on :DQuote:
Originally posted by Seven Force
What's up with (Buruma) Phobos?
can't
wait
till this comes out!!!!!
in other news...I want to hear the soundtrack for this game!
Adv.damn my nigg i hope your alright and everything.sounds like it sucked.and not in a good way.
As for Chaos.i can't wait but i am still dissapointed in the roster.only 30 charactersand noone really special cept for Tessa,Earthquake,and Genjuro.I would have loved to see Chin or Psyco Kensou instead of Choi's retarded ass.but i am just repeating myself arn't i.
And can anyone inform me which Genjuro there are using.Bust Slash or SS2 version.
JBNagis
Fresh for 03' you SUCKAS!!
:lol: ah, i see. well thanks all the same man. I never ever ever tire of seeing that pic.Quote:
Originally posted by FighterX
No prob, Satsuki. I knew what you meant, but I wanted another reason to post this pic :)
I wished they'd have used that female Donovan instead of the one we know
:lol: @ you.Quote:
Originally posted by JBNagis
only 30 characters
I'd say he's more like his SS2 self.Quote:
Originally posted by JBNagis
And can anyone inform me which Genjuro there are using.Bust Slash or SS2 version.
JBNagis
Fresh for 03' you SUCKAS!!
I consider it less because you have a half of dozen Ryu wanna be characters... also "Evil" versions shouldn't be counted as seperate characters since that's a pretty lame way to increase the number of characters in the game IMO :pQuote:
Originally posted by JBNagis
only 30 characters
Wolf..you have a good point.Evil characters are just a lazy way to add to a roster...unless they are different from the normal incarnations...i.e..Rugal and Omega Rugal from KoF98.And the New face team,extremely different.....damnit WERE THE HELL IS THE NEW FACE TEAM!!!...damnit.Yashiro,Chris and Shermie would own....GAH!!a team of Shermie and Clark is just...PAIN!!...ahem sorry.i am rambling.
And i really think that 30 characters in a vs game with companies that have a vast character roster to choose from is just....small.laugh if you want...i dreamed of a good 45 to 50.but i guess thats why they call me the dreamer(not really)
JBNagis
Fresh for 03' you SUCKAS!!!
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Originally posted by JBNagis
damnit WERE THE HELL IS THE NEW FACE TEAM!!!...damnit.Yashiro,Chris and Shermie would own....GAH!!a team of Shermie and Clark is just...PAIN!!...ahem sorry.i am rambling.
New face team died. But ignoring that, yeah, they're one of the many characters left out for magical people like Evil Ken, and Shin Mr.Karate! :confused:
Chojin: side note, but how did ya play the final codes of Soul Calibur? :)
Read my last post in the SC2 thread.Quote:
Originally posted by bahn
Chojin: side note, but how did ya play the final codes of Soul Calibur? :)
Geese died three times, so you can escape wrong death or whatever the heck he says. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Chojin
New face team died. But ignoring that, yeah, they're one of the many characters left out for magical people like Evil Ken, and Shin Mr.Karate! :confused:
This is not a team based fighter so New Face Team would feel out of place.
Geese has fallen off 100 story buildings soooo many times that he has grown impervious to such things...
Here's a good read on the origins of the Samurai Shodown characters/who they were based on - it's got a lot of good info!
http://www.kenshin.org/ss/others/sso...htm#Galford%20(¥[¾|çįS)
good link, Fighter :)
Like Haohmaru, just about every Japanese fighting game has someone based on Miyamoto Musashi. Ryu, Mitsurugi, etc...
I just wish that someone would make a fighting game character based on the Chinese folk hero, Wong Fei Hung...
Isn't that guy in Last Blade, Lee, a copy of him?
FighterX~from what i know he is Wong Fei Hung of lore or Wong Fei Hung from once apon a time in china.Either way he would have made a great addition to the roster.
Chojin~evil ken!!!shin Karate!!WTF..your not serious are you.i meen please tell me your not serious.that is just.....guh!this can't be the KoF team...cus who ever they are they have about as much imagination as the CvS1 team.they should have had an online vote to see what characters the fans would have liked to see in the game and build the roster on that...but i guess that takes time and dedication...oh well....there is always part 2(deja vu,i said the same thing about CvS1)
JBNagis
I don't know I'd put Ryu into that category - he's not enough of a wild man, although he certainly shares the model of the wandering Japanese spiritual warrior. He's more of a conglomerated archetype of Funakoshi's ideals.Quote:
Originally posted by Zerodash
good link, Fighter :)
Like Haohmaru, just about every Japanese fighting game has someone based on Miyamoto Musashi. Ryu, Mitsurugi, etc...
Like JB said, Lee from Last Blade is pretty much him - he even looks alot like Jet Li, although his personality's a bit different. I'm quite sure you could dig up others if you look around.Quote:
I just wish that someone would make a fighting game character based on the Chinese folk hero, Wong Fei Hung...
As for the "evil" characters, they're in there to boost the # of characters without having to increase memory a ton. They may well have maxed out the cart even with the new chip (I don;t know how big it is off the top of my head).
Yet another reason they need to drop that ancient MVS hardware and program on something more current... hopefully this will finally be done with "Samurai Spirits Zero" ;)Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
As for the "evil" characters, they're in there to boost the # of characters without having to increase memory a ton. They may well have maxed out the cart even with the new chip (I don;t know how big it is off the top of my head).
Don't get me wrong, the MVS system was good but it's just holding games back now... but for it's time MVS was great :)
Don't worry, I'm not getting you wrong. I'm currently putting together a crack squad of mercenaries and grifters to bust into playmore and destroy every Neo Geo dev kit in existance. All I have left to get is a tunnel rat and a totally hot Mai cosplayer to distract the security guards.Quote:
Originally posted by Werewolf
Don't get me wrong, the MVS system was good but it's just holding games back now... but for it's time MVS was great :)
JBNagis: Yeah when life gives ya lemons ... you make lemonade. Be a fountain and not a drain.
I know Chaos sounds like it sucks, but I still can't wait for it. Kensou aka Punk Kidd, would rule. He's my man; my dogg if you will. I just despised the way they dumbed him down in the last KOF or was it CvS2? I forget. BUT DAMN IT ... I WANT SAISHU AND DUCK KING!
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Originally Posted by StriderKyo
True, but Master Funakoshi was far more secular than Ryu. Musashi spent much of his life living in a cave. I can see Ryu doing something like that...
All right!
SvC is finally out! (Both Stateside and Japan)
Anyone get to play it yet?
Anyway, here's (yet another) shot of Dan. He's actually challenging this time around!
screw arcade releases. bring that stuff to the home versions!!!! :D
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/2055.jpg
Umm....yeah.
Off topic for a second.....
http://hh141.hiphip.com/templates/fr...ubFolderID=165
http://www.ncsx.org/2003/ncs071403/ncs0714f.htm
You are correct sir -- his design is based largely on Jet Li's portrayal of this real-life Chinese Robin Hood...before Li, he was played by the late Kwan Tak Hing, who's Wong Fei Hung series is one of the longest running in history...he did an awesome film late in life with Sammo Hung, called Skyhawk...Seen Iron Monkey? That little kid was also Fei Hung, and his father Wong Kei Ying was played by Donnie Yen...Quote:
Originally Posted by JBNagis
Wong Fei Hung is one of the most popular Chinese folk heroes along with Fong Sai Yuk (also played by Jet Li and others of course) and Hung Hei Kwoon (also played by Jet Li)...
I very much want some of the capsule toys...Ken, Sakura, very nice designs -- hopefully they'll offer a complete...Quote:
Originally Posted by FighterX
I thought he just spent the last few years of his life in a cave. To write his book~Quote:
True, but Master Funakoshi was far more secular than Ryu. Musashi spent much of his life living in a cave. I can see Ryu doing something like that...
Yep, supposedly the few run of the game is a JAMMA board in order to ward off rom dumping. I'd still like to know what the "extra" chip in the MVS version is supposed to do. With 30 characters, a memory booster seems unlikely. *-neo
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Originally Posted by FighterX
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Originally Posted by 88mph
And by "Jesus" he means me. And every single person smart enough to not want a fighter with fucking Dr. Wily in it.
Anyways....
A shot of Evil Ken if you want....
True. The only problem I have is that the wandering martial artist type character goes back way before Musashi - it first shows up in Japanese literature with Yoshitsune (whose story Lucas borrowed from quite liberally for Luke Skywalker) and predates that by hundreds of years in Chinese sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerodash
So unless there's something specific that would relate him to Musashi, I'm hesitant to just paint all characters of that type with the same brush. On the other hand, I'm not Japanese, so who knows what associations come to mind?
As for Zero and the Mars people being in it, if nothing else they did an excellent photoshop job there (how would you do the glare on the monitor?). If it is faked, I can't tell. Looks like they even got the art style right.
They must have used the dodge tool to make the 'glare'.
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/2219.jpg
Yep, it's the Red Arremer.
That Zero shot is not so fake.
Heh, maybe Dr. Wily is in there somewhere...I'd still settle for Daimon, though.
Athena and Firebrand shots (link from MMCafe BBS):
Click here
I need to play this now...:sweat:
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/2232.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/2234.jpg
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According to another source, you fight Firebarnd or Athena depending on how well you do. (Heaven or hell)?
Okay...previous site got hammered, here's another link with the pics:
Click here
WARNING: VERY SLOW
That is too cool, if those shots are real.
JM
Those shots look pretty damn spiffy.
FighterX, You're gonna love this one!
You're right Seven ^_^
Must....play....this...game......
Is Bao Poison and Hugo's love child?
It'd be great if Poison were playable!
I'm going to SVGL today (Saturday) to go play SVC. If I have time (I'm not sure how long I want to stick around, depends on whos there) I'll also be entering the CVS2 pre-evolution tourney. WHO KNOWWWWS~
Not too excited about playing it...Iunno. I remember when I was the games strongest supporter. I think I was expecting it to not run on Neo Geo hardware. Wishful thinking I know.
Holy crap.
Is that the Gargoyle from Ghouls n Ghosts??
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Originally Posted by Freeter
Wow...Kyo's win screen looks pretty dumb. The rest looks cool, though. Who gave Dan a haoshokoken?
Classic Athena would have sold me on this game, if I hadn't been sold like ten times over already. PS2 version not coming till Dec... damn, going to be a long painful wait.
Yep. Firebrand is in the house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutsman
Home versions have been announced? Link me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
Boy, just got home from the arcade and such. SVC Chaos is easily one of the ugliest fighting games I've ever seen. And when I mean ugly, I mean UGLY. It doesn't look too amazing graphically in the screenshots, but seeing it in motion just makes it worse. It was funny having Street Fighter 2 Turbo across from SVC and easily being able to tell that SF2T looks much better than SVC.
I also found it hilarious that usually when new games come into the arcade, it's crowded around them and usually the hot spot. Certainly wasn't like this with SVC. Least populated of the more 'hot' fighting games (cvs2, sc2, mvc2... much more "active" than svc). And as far as the game goes, general feeling between the 'hardcore' fighting game players was that it wasn't that great.
How is the gameplay to you?
I don't have a link, but both Playmore and the guy in charge of SNK US said there would be a home port for PS2 and the target date for the Japanese release is December. There's rumors of releasing the US version at the same time, but I only have a JPS2 anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Of course there will also be a home cart version for the neo-geo, but those of us without money to burn will be forced to wait for the PS2 one.
If only because of those short shorts...Quote:
Originally Posted by FighterX
This game is getter stranger by the day. That's got to be everyone in the game by now, eh?
It's definitely more SF and the earlier, not-so-gimmicky KOFs. If you're used to to the speed and flow of the later KOF games, then you'll have no problem here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FighterX
Look like those Iori players will have fun (again) :o
Which arcades did you guys play it at?
This will probably be the last Neo Geo home cart I pick up new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
SNK vs Capcom: Powered by Gameboy Advance
All jokes about how ugly this game is aside, it was alright. Nothing mind blowing. I played about 4-5 games of it and decided that I'm still not a fan of SNK fighters. Earthquake is SO top tier though. Tessa was fun to use as well. The feeling from the regulars was a very "Meh" issue. CVS2 and GGXX were still getting more play time.
I'll post some of the pictures I took today after I play some Initial D (My PS2 came back in the mail today. Works perfectly!). There were TONS of people there thanks to the Pre-Evolution tourney. I didn't get to enter anything though, I had to leave early :( I wanted to enter the SVC tourney just to see how people are adapting to it.
Played it a fair bit now, I feel safe now about my thoughts on the game. Write-up coming soon.
I finally got to see the game in person today. I only got to play it twice, with Balrog and Earthquake, so I'm not going into depth about the gameplay. But I stared at the game long enough to make some comments about the graphics.
The game looks horrible. Sorry I wish there was some nicer way to put it , but that is the truth. Every single person around me made the same comments. "SSF2T looks better than this." "Why are the graphics so pixellated?" I agree with them. The backgrounds are among the worst I've ever seen in an SNK fighter. No parallax scrolling, no people standing in the backgrounds, ie none of the elements that made the backgrounds in the KOF games so interesting to look at.
I wish I can put the fault on the MVS hardware, but I really can't. Fatal Fury 2 ran on the same hardware, and that 10 yr old game had backgrounds that kill anything in this game. The MVS hardware cannot explain why the backgrounds look so pixellated and 16-color-ish, sparse, and lifeless. Like they were a complete afterthought. Sorry but there is no excuse for this, it can only explained by laziness, or lack of talent, on the part of SNK.
The overall interface, splash screens, etc also look very rushed and amateur-ish. The life bars, timers, character selection menu, everything, looks like it was rushed and done by amateurs.
The only good thing I can say about the graphics is that the new Capcom sprites were pretty well drawn. I like how Ken and Ryu look just like their original SF2 sprites. Sagat looks weird, but all the other characters are really well drawn. Of course the animation overall was lacking and choppy, due to hardware limitations of the MVS.
Anyways, like others have mentioned, there wasn't a lot of interest in this game. I think most people took a look at it and saw how horrible it looked, and moved on. I don't blame them, who wants to play something that looks like a Genesis game when there's Marvel vs Capcom 2 standing next to it?
Me.
The december thing is cool, but there were mumblings about this coming to "all 3 consoles" and "Live support? We're looking into it."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
I'll get it regardless, but you can only get so into a game like this with like 4 people to play against (ie. no online support).
Please tell me that means 97-98. If so, this game could have stick figures running around on a black background and still rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven Force
PS2 was confirmed by Playmore. The guy in charge of SNK US wants to bring it to the xbox as well, but he's not calling the shots. Neither seems to have any interest in putting it on the cube.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I'd personally be content to play this with a few friends, but some kind of online support would be great. I'm just not optimistic enough to think it's going to happen.
It does seem "less gimmicky" but I don't think it feels quite the same as KOF 97-98...I think the control didn't feel as "crisp" as those games...
Thanks for the link... too bad including a fucking alien squid in this game is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.
Agreed. It went from being a serious fighter with an average boring roster, to being some kind of MvC wanna-be. I'm far FAR more interrested in SamSho 0 then I am of this, but sadly SS 0 will probably never come to a normal home console.Quote:
Originally Posted by 88mph
I'm rather surprised about the extreme flak the graphics have gotten.
Would you say the quality of the movies and screenshots(Which made it look at least KoF 96-00 quality) has been misleading when compared to the final release?
R
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I have a 5-minute video if anyone is interedsted.
(No Mars people/Fiebrand/Zero/Athena, though):(
Once its on MVS. Be patient.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMoogle
In the first video, it looked like the player using Ryu was totally confused by the alien; like he didn't know what to do.
The alien is stupid.
"Would you say the quality of the movies and screenshots(Which made it look at least KoF 96-00 quality) has been misleading when compared to the final release?"
Well, you know what they say about videos never being able to give a good impression of what the real game looks like...
I guess in the videos you're too focused on the characters to notice the horrid pixelly backgrounds.
SNK has never really had good backgrounds. They'll probably replace those with 3D ones for the PS2 port like they're doing with KOF2k1 anyway so it's the least of my concerns.
I've read a whole bunch of mixed reports on this game now and it still sounds like something I want to get my hands on, even if the absence of Sakura is a very large and obvious oversight. :P
I fail to see how the addition of one wacky character ruins the game.
And uh, did I miss people complaining bitterly about the graphics when the game was in testing? I don't remember anyone getting too riled up about them until now.
Character codes, just got them from over a NeoGeo.com - can you translate?
隠しキャラ仕様方
ギース
カーソルをテリーに合わせてＡＣ（同時য় 6;し）→京に合わせてＢＤ
→牙神に合わせてＡＣ
最後テリーに戻してＡＣ
デミトリ
ガイルＡＣ→ケンＢＤ→リュウＡＣ
ＺＥＲＯ
春麗ＢＤ→ヒューゴＡＣ→ダルシムＣＡ
ゲーニッツ
庵ＡＣ→キムＢＤ→カラテＡＣ
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Goenitz, Zero, and Mr. Karate:
Until I find my windows disc (if ever, I think I lent to someone back in '99) I can't install other character sets on this pc, but if you can post those codes as a .jpeg or something I can translate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FighterX
Im a lazy man..Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Strider, here's the image:
http://www.ribaldyouth.com/pics/text.gif
Geese:Quote:
Originally Posted by rezo
Go to Terry, push A+C ->Kyo, B+D-> Genjuro, A+C ->Terry, A+C
Demitri:
Guile, A+C -> Ken, B+D -> Ryu, A+C
Zero:
Chun-Li, B+D -> Hugo, A+C -> Dhalsim C+A
Goenitz:
Iori, A+C -> Kim, B+D -> Mr. Karate, A+C
Heh, saved me the trouble. Thanks Seven (I'm glad you know the kanji for Chun Li - I don't). And thanks anyway, Rezo.
I don't see the problem with the graphics myself. Backgrounds are bland, but the sprites look fine.
I just had permanent damage done by those Terry, Ken, Earthquake, Hugo, Akuma, and M.Bison pics. Terry was responsible for most of the damage...
:bang:
I wonder what the the rest of the crew is going to look like...particularly, Mars People and Firebrand.
This just opened up a lot of new cosplay ideas. :evil:
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Originally Posted by 88mph
me too
暴走庵
S押しながら464646AC
暴走ケン
S押しながら464646BD
ゲーニッツ
S押しながら268428BC
ギース
S押しながら248628BC
ダン
S押しながら46824682AC
ゼロ
S押しながらBC・ABC・BC・46
whats Hugos deal anyway? He looks like he tried to emulate poison and failed miserably
Iori, Ryo, Kyo and Ryu look really cute :)
I'm sure Iori's killed people for saying less than that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidez
Balrog, Ken, and Hugo are hilarous. What's the deal with Sagat, though. . .
Bwhahaha awesome!
SNK not good with backgrounds? Uhh who does 2D backgrounds better than SNK? Certainly not Capcom. The ones in FF2, FFS, KOF 94-00 kill anything from the Capcom 2D fighters. They were all really interesting, filled with people, and had all sorts of neat effects. The ones in SvC look like they just stuck a 16 color bitmap in the back.
Maybe it's the fact that at the arcade I went to they put the game up on one of those big screens, which only made it look worse and more pixellated.
Just to let you guys know, the first codes listed here did nothing for me. B+D on Chun just selected Chun.
So the characters aren't time released?