The Victory Thread

No its not the same situation.
During the second world war both the USSR as wel as the alied forces including the US were in war with Germany.
Witouth eachothers help the german thread could not be defeated.

With Iraq we have a situation where the US, Germany, France etcetera helped him achieve a dictatorship and kill his own people during a time when those countries were at peace.
There was no threat that warranted the US to help Saddam kill his own people and then blame it on Iran, there was no war that threatened the US at its own shores.
The US aided saddam and covered up for his mass murders of Kurds in the north and shiítes in the south.

It is NOT the same.

And again what does the war in Vietnam have to do with the US and USSR commonly fighting germany in the second world war?

And yes I already made my case, this is the third time im bringing it forward you just seem to refuse to see it.

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Originally posted by Almaci
No its not the same situation.
During the second world war both the USSR as wel as the alied forces including the US were in war with Germany.
Witouth eachothers help the german thread could not be defeated.

With Iraq we have a situation where the US, Germany, France etcetera helped him achieve a dictatorship and kill his own people during a time when those countries were at peace.
There was no threat that warranted the US to help Saddam kill his own people and then blame it on Iran, there was no war that threatened the US at its own shores.
The US aided saddam and covered up for his mass murders of Kurds in the north and shiítes in the south.

It is NOT the same.

And again what does the war in Vietnam have to do with the US and USSR commonly fighting germany in the second world war?

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We helped him kill Iranians because the Iranians were a bigger threat. And if it was a mistake, we're paying for it with guns, dollars and lives right now.

The situation? Worse. In WWII we knew who Stalin was. We knew he was a dictator. We knew he killed people. But we helped him anyway, because his enemy was ours (however remember, he faught alongside Germany initially!). Same situation: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The bigger threat at the time was Germany, so we enlisted a dictator's help.

And might I state that again, because your memory is that of a sheep, that you never asked a question the first so how can you ask it again?

Vietnam and South Korea were artifacts/consequences of Communist Russia. A Russia we aided in WWII. Therefore, we're responsible. By your crackhead logic.

Made your case? What case. You've made no case. You said that anyone who helped Saddam should be tried as war criminals. So, I said that with your logic, those who aided Stalin in WWII should have been held up to the same. I called you on your hypocrisy. Now you're Wade Wilson and you're getting happy-feet. You can't find the receiver so you throw the ball away. It's forth down and nine. You can go for it or just punt the damn ball and admit your mistake.

Propganda! That US soldier is defacing their money! What a criminal!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...lt-268x367.jpg

I said those who covered up for his crimes and helped him become what until recently he was, dont twist my words.

And how was Iran a bigger threat?
And if Iran was such a big threat why help Iran during the same war later on?

What question?
I didnt pose a question I made my case, something you refused to acknoledge.

And learn to distinguish between reporting and propaganda.
Dont act like I claimed that everything the US said or showed was propaganda.
Constant demonising of those who have a differing vieuw in a selfhypnotising way.
Sick.

Propaganda!

(Just felt like saying that).:)

Im opposed to this war and so is the Iraqi information ministery so what youre doing is linking his words to me.
You and others are acting like what he claims is what i believe.
Show me where I didnt believe the advances the US millitary were making, show me where I didnt believe they entered Baghdad, you cant becouse I never did.
The instances where i did call on US propaganda when I called on propaganda were mostly cases where I was vindicated.
You expect me to believe all claims on face value, I dont i always wait until it can be verified, you dont and have been proven wrong several times before yet still you have the nerve to flaunt those pics and say PROPAGANDA in an attempt to convince yourself that im wrong and youre right despite what has happened over the last few weeks.

I dont believe annything at face value and neither should you.
This war has proven that more then any other in recent history.
Yah of course I believe the US has entered Baghdad and the majority of people are happy.
yah I believed they had the airport while Iraq claimed otherwise, the proof was there.
But no i didnt believe it outright when the US claimed for the fifth time it had taken Um qasr and no i didnt believe it when the UK claimed for the 3rd time that there had been a spontanous uprising in Basra becouse the evidence pointed to the opposite of the claims.

Its sad actually that you need to lump me together with Iraqi government tools with whom I couldnt disagree more in order to fulfill youre own mental need to throw away everything I say.

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Originally posted by Almaci
I dont believe annything at face value and neither should you.

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I still believe you have tits. And that leads me to believe you have no penis.

--Scourge .

This thread rocks.

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:lol:

Jimmy are you sure he is Signing money? Those look like those leaflets the U.S. dropped to show how to properly surrender.

But I could be wrong.

hahahaha
oh wait he cant see this
oh well, hahahaha