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Two questions:Quote:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Yoshi
Toad
Dr. Mario
Baby Mario
Daisy
Professor E. Gadd
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Dixie
Bowser
Baby Bowser
Wario
Waluigi
King Boo
Koopa the Quick
Shy Guy
Goomba
Big Boo
Birdo
Larry Koopa
Morton Koopa Jr.
Wendy O. Koopa
Iggy Koopa
Roy Koopa
Lemmy Koopa
Ludwig von Koopa
Plum
1) Who is 'Plum' again?
2) What was the name of Bowser's son in SMS?
hm. lots of characters..
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omg online!@#!!!!!!!!
HOLY SHIT! ALL OF THE KOOPA KIDS ARE BACK!
I've been waiting for this moment for such a long time... they're here to overthrow the evil Baby Bowser (answer #2)!
...oh, and Plum was the girl with the pigtails in Mario Golf.
I'm kinda disappointed that the Sonic cast isn't in there...
Ah, well. Wasn't really expecting it anyway.
Mario's sister? She's the brown haired chick that I really only know from Mario Golf. :)
OMG Mario Golf!
I am the Mario Golf master. Rich knows what I'm talking about. :)
I think that's pretty stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
Mario's sister? She's the brown haired chick that I really only know from Mario Golf. :)
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I'm SURE there are secret characters...
Isn't baby Bowser the one in SMW2 Yoshi's Island...
I thought the guy in SMS was Bowser's son, (another), and had a name.
Assuming the gameplay remembles that of previous titles, I don't see how they can differentiate the attributes of 30 different characters. The bigger the better, i suppose, so i'm not complaining.
Sonic better not be in it. Luckilly Miyamoto was just fucking around when he said that(or was he?!?).
Baby Bowser is both:
a) Bowser, as a kid in Yoshi's Island and
b) A totally separate character, birthed in Yoshi's Story and seen in later Mario Party games, and also Mario Sunshine.
You can trust me, 'cause I have a high, giggling Wario dressed like a gay construction worker in my sig.
Koopa Troopa returns baby.
Maybe they all have different endings??
Kinopio, It's better than not having them
Didn't Miyamoto say he was adding new elements of play?
I bet Link will be hidden... Diddy's in it, why not Link?
BTW, my fav character, Goomba, is in it.
Tell ya the truth, this cast is a Mario fan's wet dream. Now, then again, this could be an April Fool's day joke, as I'm just waiting for there to be an official notice about the death of the Koopa kids.
Then again, that would be one hell of a lame-ass April Fool's Day joke...
AAAAAGH!!!! IGGY!!!!!
my fav koopa kid!!!! I can't believe they are finally bringing him back...that is just so great! Can't wait to play =X
and Toad will still be the best racer!
Toad rocks.
Not necessarily. What if their inclusion simply meant that you had to beat the game with more characters to unlock all the bonuses? Then it's lame. Very lame.Quote:
Originally posted by SMBChick
Kinopio, It's better than not having them
If this list is real, I hope there are some valid game design reasons to have such a large cast. (It is neat to see the SMB3 kids back, though.)
No Sunshine characters?
Hopefully this will a bid more fun than the 64 version.
He always was my favorite.Quote:
Originally posted by Yamcha
Koopa Troopa returns baby.
Even if there aren't... eh the series should've moved beyond 8 characters per game years ago.Quote:
Originally posted by BenT
If this list is real, I hope there are some valid game design reasons to have such a large cast. (It is neat to see the SMB3 kids back, though.)
But they could make:
01. Instead of 8 opponents, 12 or 16... which means much larger tracks
02. Possibly netplay, however it may not happen because Nintendo sucks.
03. Round-robin style tournaments more fun with more characters.
04. More bonuses kinda like SSB:M.
I hope Link's not in it... yes Diddy has never been with Mario in a game, but still I can kinda see that... as for Link, this is Mario Kart, not Nintendo Kart.
Hopefully this will be the Mario Kart sequel that MK64 should've been... and no fucking rubberband AI please!
Wow that's a huge cast of characters. I hope most of them are atleast different enough to make them worth trying.
GC BBA here I come.
Yes... I'm sure some will be faster than others.Quote:
Originally posted by ShineAqua
Wow that's a huge cast of characters. I hope most of them are atleast different enough to make them worth trying.
I can't find this on nintendo.co.jp. :x
Why not Link? Gannon? Samus? Kid Icarus?
Why not team up with Sega to add Sega characters? Having Sonic characters would have been awesome.
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Originally posted by GameFreak
Why not Link? Gannon? Samus? Kid Icarus?
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Originally posted by diffusionx
this is Mario Kart, not Nintendo Kart.
That's what I'm worried about.Quote:
Originally posted by cka
I can't find this on nintendo.co.jp. :x
This game is not going to be online compatible just in case anyone still has their hopes up that it is.
Also I wouldn't be suprised if that list was an early April Fools joke, it would be cool to have all those characters though
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Originally posted by diffusionx
Even if there aren't... eh the series should've moved beyond 8 characters per game years ago.
Hopefully this will be the Mario Kart sequel that MK64 should've been... and no fucking rubberband AI please!
Preach on! I swear to god I wish I could go back in time and kick the shit out of whoever thought rubberband AI was a good idea. There are so many racing games I can't enjoy because of it. A game like RC Pro Am deserves better than that.
What the hell is rubber band AI? They go faster when you get further ahead or something like that?
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. There have been numerous games that have it, including RC Pro Am, Looney Tunes Space Race, and the biggest offender, Mario Kart 64. I'm pretty sure alot of people can't stand to play anything but multi-player in MK64 because of it.
rc pro am has some of the most insane ai i've ever seen. after a few tracks, the yellow car usually decides to go to warp speed. literally twice as fast as your own car. there's no way to catch up, save for a few lucky missles. i thought that it might be a glitch, but there's a sound effect that plays whenever the car blasts off. very strange..Quote:
Originally posted by Lordmrw
A game like RC Pro Am deserves better than that.
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There's a lot of unnecessary obnoxious characters on that list, but it doesn't bother me much. Although I'd rather see Nintendo Kart, as some of you put it.
Diddy and Dixie are in it?! Pfff lame, I hate those two. And they have never had anything to do with a Mario game. Why not have Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr., since they have actually been in the same game as Mario.
They should release Nintendo Kart.
Waluigi needs to die already. I'd say they should use his death as the premise for the next Wario game, but mercifully the Wario games don't acknowledge his existance.
There should be a Wario counterpart for every Mario character. Wowser, Woad and Wincess Wench are marketing gold.
I concur. When I first saw him in a screenshot from Mario Tennis, I can honestly say that I was scared. He's very unnecessary.Quote:
Originally posted by Frogacuda
Waluigi needs to die already. I'd say they should use his death as the premise for the next Wario game, but mercifully the Wario games don't acknowledge his existance.
I hate this list. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many characters.
I'm afraid it may be a joke.
i think you're right.Quote:
Originally posted by SMBChick
I'm afraid it may be a joke.
Hmmmm... maybe. But, if you look ont he site's main page, there IS a fresh batch of April Fool's entries...
This one was posted yesterday.
It might be just a well done (now that they posted the other stories) joke, along the lines of 8-Bit Theater's joke. (Yeah, right. Brian's stopping the comic and pulling the entire archive off the site to make room for a new shitty hand-drawn comic. Sure.)
I like lots of characters, just ones that make sense in the Mario Universe. And that does not include stupid Diddy and Dixie.
They put the rubberband crap in to make the game fair for the computer. With the sliding and powerups and shortcuts it's way too easy to lap practically every computer opponent except the enhanced ones. In a kart style racer I don't see much choice as far as AI goes - if you crank it up too high you'll have a Gran Turismo learning curve.Quote:
Originally posted by Lordmrw
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. There have been numerous games that have it, including RC Pro Am, Looney Tunes Space Race, and the biggest offender, Mario Kart 64. I'm pretty sure alot of people can't stand to play anything but multi-player in MK64 because of it.
Maybe I'm just a badass at MK64, but the other racers were never a problem - it was fun to beat down the "cheaters" anyway. :D
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I agree Clash.
It's not that I hate Diddy as much as some of you. I used to like him in DKC, then they tried to give him more attitude I guess.
...I'm such a loser
Anyway, I don't want it to be Nintendo Kart. There were many Nintendo games I knew nothing about in SSBM. And that's fine, but this is a game about Mario. Mario is a franchise I know more about... (Aside from SMS, I didn't finnish it, and don't think I ever will. Oh, and Luigi's game I have not interest to play at all.) A lot of people know more about Mario... So why mess with a winning formula like Mario Kart?
I was shocked and saddened to see 0 Koopa Kids in SSBM. These things were in 2 of the best Mario games of all time (pluss). I don't understand why they are most forgotten. Glad to see SMB2 (US) characters. I'm one of the few who LOVED that game.
Koopa being back in action is the best surprise. When GBA's Kart game came out, I PRAYED that they added him as a secret character.
If the list turns out the be fake (seems to be a 50/50 chance), I won't mind much. Any chance we may see this game BEFORE E3? (When is E3 again???)
Agreed. I would happily become Wayoshi or Woshi, so I could be evil. :evil:Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
There should be a Wario counterpart for every Mario character. Wowser, Woad and Wincess Wench are marketing gold.
I don't see whats so bad abour rubber band AI. An interesting race is far more intense than seeing how many times you can lap the computer.
One of the most frightening things about Mario Kart 64 is when you are in the lead and fearing that some one in the pack behind you gets a dreaded Purple Shell, you just can't have a relaxing lead in that game.
i second that.....Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
and no fucking rubberband AI please!
"Rubber band AI" was put it to keep the races close and "exciting", they went faster when you moved ahead, and slows down when you're behind. Besides MK64, one of the biggest offenders was Beetle Adventure Racing. Oddly, one of the few games that didn't use rubber band AI was the Cruisin' games. If you got far ahead, you stayed ahead, but you usually end up wrecking anyway.
Nah, that wasn't a glitch, that was supposed to happen. There was no condition, it just happened randomly. Its top speed is the maximum speed that you get when you cross a boost arrow. That sound that you hear is the same sound you hear when you decelerate from a boost arrow, except in reverse.Quote:
Originally posted by epmode
rc pro am has some of the most insane ai i've ever seen. after a few tracks, the yellow car usually decides to go to warp speed. literally twice as fast as your own car. there's no way to catch up, save for a few lucky missles. i thought that it might be a glitch, but there's a sound effect that plays whenever the car blasts off. very strange..
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Larry Koopa
Morton Koopa Jr.
Wendy O. Koopa
Iggy Koopa
Roy Koopa
Lemmy Koopa
Ludwig von Koopa
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:lol: I'd put down a preorder asap if they announced that.Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
There should be a Wario counterpart for every Mario character. Wowser, Woad and Wincess Wench are marketing gold.
Cheating sucks. I don't care if it supposedly makes the game "more interesting," having victory robbed because the rubberband AI pulled out all the stops at the last moment and won through cheating is pathetic. I refuse to play games that have that because I don't like cheating, no matter who or what does it.Quote:
Originally posted by Kinopio
I don't see whats so bad abour rubber band AI. An interesting race is far more intense than seeing how many times you can lap the computer.
Nine times out of ten it does not make the game "more intense," it just adds an unstoppable frustrating element that requires you to find ways to trick the AI instead of figuring out how to actually win. It's stupid, unnessecary, and reeks of shoddy programming. The concept itself needs to die a quick, yet still painful, death.
I always thought NBA Jam and Blitz to be the biggest offenders I encountered. NBA Jam would have impossible shots and random turnovers durng the final minute, and Blitz was often nothing but fumbles and random full-field touchdowns during the fourth quarter. Aggravating.Quote:
Originally posted by DirtySouth
Besides MK64, one of the biggest offenders was Beetle Adventure Racing.
I don't think this has been repeated enough.Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
and no fucking rubberband AI please!
One more time. Mario Kart 64 was one of the worst sequels ever.Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
and no fucking rubberband AI please!
What's just about as bad as Rubberband AI is "Placeholder AI". That's when the CPU cars don't react to each other at all. What ends up being the result is that all the cars instead of racing each other, they form a line and follow each other and cruise the track. Again, Mario 64 was the worst. If you notice when the races end, usually the same 3 or 4 racers are always in the top spots, when the others are always last. Mario Kart has both rubberband and placeholder AI, and the only thing that saves it is the weapons. All the bananas and shells bouncing all over the track eventually hits someone, and scrambles the order. If it weren't for the weapons, MK64 would be a very boring and mediocre racer.
It's a kart racing game which, IMHO, is supposed to be all about the weapons and tricks and shorcuts and such. A realistic racing engine would ruin a game like that. MK64 was all about battle mode anyway. The racing was only a silly sideshow to the marvelous mayhem of the Block Fort. Hell, just make a Super Smash Kart Melee - lots of characters, powerups, arenas, and secrets. Who needs racing, anyway?
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