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After all, politics is a broad subject, they say.
Another french porn moment.:)
Cripes man, what's with the babies? With breasts at that. It's starting to worry me.
This thread is starting to worry me.:p Actually, I thought these images were cute. Don't worry I don't have any more. So you can just continue thrashing without interruption. It isn't really porn, just some images from arcade games.
I have to agree. When you title a thread "French Scum," you don't get to mitigate it away. Bad things happen everywhere.Quote:
Originally posted by Sidez
Considering that you've expressed on frequent occaisions your anti-French views, any of your worthless little guesses are just that: worthless.
In summary you're a fucking xenophobe and a bigot.
He said that to Stone, Burg. Stone didn't start this thread.Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
I have to agree. When you title a thread "French Scum," you don't get to mitigate it away. Bad things happen everywhere.
I just realized that. Sorry, Stone, that last post was mistakenly directed at you.
Over this past weekend the LPGA had a big tournament and a French woman won. Seemed like everyone was really happy to see her win. With all the "French sux" mentality lately I thought that was cool beans.
I'll be honest...bbobbs pictures are the highlight of this thread.
No problem, Burgundy - I'd deserve the criticism if I titled a thread "French Scum" (no offence DiffusionX)
Calling the French Revolution a huge cock-up is about the depth of my francophobia - the picture in my sig implies nothing more than us telling the EU to fuck off because it couldn't keep us from liberating Iraq. I'm not worrying about growing anti-semitism in France because I hate France - I'm worrying about it because it's worrisome.
France is weirdly lacking in the sort of neocon-right Blair-left that provides a counterpoint to fundamentalists and Marxists (if I'm wrong in that analysis, please correct me.) The country is unbalanced, politically, which makes it susceptible to extremists flying many flags - the fact that the left is so afraid of the racist/anti-semite descriptor makes it easier for those sorts of elements to sneak up on them (the "what, we're never racist!" element).
I don't care how conservative you are, just please tell me you don't get your news from the network that staged a race between an elephant and a team of midgets.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Nah, man, Fox News is neoconservative, like Bush's cabinet (all those evil warmongering Jews) and me.
Fox News is like the NY Post - in general, it's good for a laugh, but I haven't quite moved to the point where I really trust the network any more than I do CNN or MSNBC.
However, and this is a big however, Fox has Jennifer Eccleston, who I could watch report on just about anything. Attractive as all hell, great voice:
http://www.cameroncole.net/cgi-bin/i...ifer_Eccleston
Reason enough to deal with graphics of F15s morphing into eagles that shoot missiles out of their claws and other shit like that.
The same network that brought you the uber-sleazy Temptation Island and THE CHAMBER. :wtf:Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
I don't care how conservative you are, just please tell me you don't get your news from the network that staged a race between an elephant and a team of midgets.
Chamber was obviously meant to compete with ABC's "The Chair". While The Chair was pretty decent (the heartstoppers were meant merely to spook contestants and possibly raise their pulse a bit... it was cool to see a contestant survive one of these without "redlining"), The Chamber was too far gone.
Sitting in a 110-170 degree (or subzero if the computer selected "cold") temperature box while answering the questions? That was sadistic. And the top winner on there who made it through the entire 7 level course got a paltry $20,000 for his trouble.
Ouch.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Fox News is like the NY Post
:lol: No way! I can't beleive I haven't seen that.Quote:
Reason enough to deal with graphics of F15s morphing into eagles that shoot missiles out of their claws and other shit like that.
Yeah, man, it comes up when they do that little "America At War" clip with the pounding music at the end of a batch of segments.
Eccleston reminds us all what we're fighting for, I think.
Over time I believe Fox News will morph into something a bit more overtly respectable - somewhere in between "The Weekly Spectator" and a conservative tabloid. Just needs time.
I had an interesting conversation with a coworker today - can you support the war and still be called a liberal? He didn't think so because, supposedly, supporting the war means supporting the President, and turning a blind eye to civilian casualties.
I think that you can still be called a liberal if you support the war. I think that this military action against Iraq is necessary, especially since we're basically responsible for Hussein. That, however, tends to be where my agreement with conservatives ends. I think Hussein is a greater threat to his own people than outside countries, but I still think he should be taken out of power. I don't think he's this great evil threat to the world, but the people of Iraq, whether they want to be freed or not, deserve to be rid of him. I wholeheartedly disagree with sending only American companies in to rebuild Iraq after the war is over (not that we shouldn't send any of our companies in, but to be exclusive is a silly idea to me). I think that the overall loss of life if Hussein continues to stay in power is enough to override my want to avoid war casualties.
I would never vote for a candidate who supports the death penalty. I would never vote for someone who wants to reduce Affirmative Action programs. Nor would I ever vote for someone who actively seeks to ban abortions. Therefore, I will not be voting for Bush in 2004. I don't know what it really means to support the President, but if it means believing that he means what he says (or that he understands it), then no, I don't support him. I support his decision to go to war. That's about it.
So am I still a liberal or do I qualify as a conservative?
We're not excluding other countries from the rebuilding process. "Liberalism" doesn't necessitate much of anything, much less not supporting war.
Turning a blind eye to civilian casualties is exactly what most liberals are doing when they simplemindedly protest against the war - they're ignoring the thousands of casualties Saddam inflicts on his own people every year.
Define "reduce" when it comes to Affirmative Action, Mike - and why are you so committed to it? As far as the death penalty goes, you can expect that every Democrat and Republican that will come up for the Presidential vote in the near future will support the availabliity of the death penalty. You ought to still choose between the available, viable candidates; work inside the system to try to move your chosen party away from the death penalty, but don't turn yourself into a non-actor (by not choosing at all) because you're against it.
Yes you do US companies are vying for longterm contracts right now and the US government is deciding who should do what.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
We're not excluding other countries from the rebuilding process.
A US subsidiary of Haliburton gets chosen to deliver so called humanitarian aid(wich no doubt will be recovered trough future oil deliveries) over non governmental institutions who do the same thing without seeking a profit.
the US is deciding right now wich US companies will get what from the initial pie instead of the people of the future LIBERATED Iraq.
The UK thinks Iraqi´s should decide for them selves and wants a big UN involvement with rebuilding Iraq while the US wants to keep all strings in their own hands.
All will unveil pretty soon and we will see who is right and wrong.
ZING!Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Stone: I'll just wager that if a hard-line Facist-like politician actually ran in the USA and weilded that language well enough he'd get such a precentage as Le Pen. I think Pat Buchanan should run again and prove this right.
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Yeah, didn't Dubya tell Tony Blair that the UN could stick it where the sun doesn't shine as far as rebuilding Iraq goes?
I thought the US was planning to keep the UN out of rebuilding? I'm not saying that's a bad idea, or even unjustified, but I think we're being a bit disingenuous if, by "other countries," we mean "other coalition countries."Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
We're not excluding other countries from the rebuilding process. "Liberalism" doesn't necessitate much of anything, much less not supporting war.
Hm, not from what I understand, Burgundy, I mean, I haven't heard anything specific indicating that, and yet we've just heard Blair tell everyone that the UN needs to have a significant position in the rebuilding process.
The Bush administration knows the rewards don't justify the pain of keeping the UN out of the deal.
Well we obviously have to keep those French scumbags out of rebuilding Iraq. ;)Quote:
I thought the US was planning to keep the UN out of rebuilding? I'm not saying that's a bad idea, or even unjustified, but I think we're being a bit disingenuous if, by "other countries," we mean "other coalition countries."
No offense to you Stone, but Im not the one who warped this thread into what it is now, which is a misshapen beast which bears no resemblance to what it was originally about - the fact that a bunch of pieces of shit from France (cause thats what they are, criticize me all you want) defaced a graveyard filled with people who died protecting them.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
No problem, Burgundy - I'd deserve the criticism if I titled a thread "French Scum" (no offence DiffusionX)
I didnt say that all French are scum, which I noted in the very first post! Yet sleeveboy immediately attacked it, and then backed off when I told him my intentions. If I defaced a graveyard of French soldiers from the Revolution here in America, I would be labeled scum, and rightly so. I don't see where the criticism is deserved. I'd love to know, though.
Like I said, Im guilty of perhaps using sensationalist terms to try to draw attention to the thread, but since when was that so fucking bad. Criticize me all you want for naming this thread what I named it. Sidez, Burgundy, Stone, Jimmy Carter, hell even Almaci.
Im no fucking bigot.
I know you're not a bigot: the title "French Scum" begs that sort of criticism, whether you classify it later or not.
I support your choice of title for the thread! *waves diffusion rally flag*Quote:
So criticize me all you want for naming this thread what I named it. Sidez, Burgundy, Stone, Jimmy Carter, hell even Almaci.
The whole basis of democracy is making decisions based on conscience. The two party system kind of narrows your choices, but the notion that considering yourself liberal but agreeing with Bush on something is betrayal tantamount to a Mets fan cheering for the Yankees is a bit ridiculous, and kind of defeats the whole point of democracy.Quote:
Originally posted by Calliander
I had an interesting conversation with a coworker today - can you support the war and still be called a liberal? So am I still a liberal or do I qualify as a conservative?
Once you blindly follow one party because you think you're supposed to, if the opposition is in power they have every reason to never listen to you.
Do they play that Crystal Method song from the opening of Splinter Cell while showing stock footage of speeding tanks and MoAB explosions? That would be so rad. I swear to God I would watch that all the time.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Yeah, man, it comes up when they do that little "America At War" clip with the pounding music at the end of a batch of segments.