For me, it would have to be Lorne Lanning. Motherfucker thinks he's a legend just because he made a bunch of mediocre platform games.
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For me, it would have to be Lorne Lanning. Motherfucker thinks he's a legend just because he made a bunch of mediocre platform games.
Vic Ireland. No contest.
He also thinks he's a legend but has never made a single game.
Gimmie a V!
Gimmie a I!
Gimmie a C!
Victor Ireland.
I used to think David Perry, but I might have to go with Lorne Lanning. I'm not a huge fan of arrogance.
Dave Perry is soooooo tempting but I'd drop Vic Ireland in a heartbeat.
I'd say Perry, but I've like more than a few Shiny games and Perry is an amazing speaker. He could sell a horse some tap shoes.
Is Lorne the guy from Oddworld? He's a punk.
I'd like to dropkick this thread ;)
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Good answer, good answer
</family feud>
Jason Rubin- all he's ever done is rip off great game ideas and he thinks he's god. He blows ass!
Does Bill Gates count?:D
Vic Ireland? Never really played a WD game. At least, I don't think so. Lorne Lanning? Hrm.
Oh, wait. Derek fucking Smart
I am in total agreeance with Bahn.
Who is Vic Ireland and what did he do
officially Vic after the april fools web-site shit...:bang:
Victor Ireland, President of Working DesignsQuote:
Originally posted by Doug Branches
Who is Vic Ireland and what did he do
and to the second part of your question...don't even open that can of worms...
Correct answer.Quote:
Originally posted by Tain
Oh, wait. Derek fucking Smart
Who's Lorne Lanning?
I would dropkick EA's CEO in a heartbeat. The motherf00ker buy every good company in sight and rape it.
Bernie Stolar. Isn't he the guy that decided not to bring the Sega Saturn RAM cart to the U.S. market, citing that "no one would pay $80 for a game?"
I'd like to second Bernie Stolar, the guy is the king at killing companies. He did it with Sega, and he did it with BAM. He was pretty good at Mattel though, but really, who couldn't be?
Bernie Stolar...
I'd kick this thread instead.
Whoa. We're in agreement? Hell must be freezing right now. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Master
I'd kick this thread instead.
OMFHellFreeze? Seriously though, Bernie Stolar deserves to be forced to play every Mattel game ever made for his crimes against gaming.
Yuji Naka for his sonic adventure 2 and pso.
Definately Bernie Stolar. Or whoever's in charge of Namco hometek.
Damn pacifists. :pQuote:
Originally posted by bahn
Whoa. We're in agreement? Hell must be freezing right now. :)
I'd say Vic, but he seems well taken care of so far.... So I'll be controversial and go for Miyamoto. :p
Oooo... I am gonna get flamed now.
OMFG MIYAMOTO J00 SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
...and lesse... Vic Ireland... maybe.
I don't like dropkicking people. It's mean.
I have much respect for both David Perry and Lorne Lanning. Say what you will about Lanning, but you can not deny the man's artist talents.
Lets not turn this into a fatbabies thread.
The only person I think truly deserves to be drop kicked is John Romero. Most others mentioned in this thread have at least done some good, depending on your point of view:
Lorne Lanning - I liked the Oddworld series and look forward to their next.
Vic Ireland - he may be a fool but he's been personally responsible for releasing certain games that would never see the light of day otherwise and actually does some pretty spiffy packaging w/ extras to boot.
Dave Perry - smooth talker but he does have an eye for gameplay and Shiny has done some original games that I really enjoyed so...
Jason Rubin - I enjoyed the Crash series and Jak & Daxter...
Bill Gates - I love my Xbox :)
Derek Smart - who? Does not compute.
EA's CEO - believe it or not EA still does make some good games and you'd be surprised how distant he is to R&D. He doesn't make a difference to majority of EA's employees.
Bernie Stolar - I'm sure he's done something good during his stint at Sega. Just being optimistic possibly.
Just remember John Romero was gonna make you his bitch. So he was a level designer on Doom. Big whoop! I've played better homemade levels then what he cranked out. He used the success of Doom to self promote his worthless ass and in the end his shit game spoke volumes about his actual talent (or lack there of).
hmmmm..maybe yamaguchi for turning away square and staying with carts, i actually respect the heck out of him for some of his other decisions, but he was way too headstrong.
His reputation was obliterated by Daikatana. What more retribution do you need?Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
The only person I think truly deserves to be drop kicked is John Romero.
Just remember John Romero was gonna make you his bitch. So he was a level designer on Doom. Big whoop! I've played better homemade levels then what he cranked out. He used the success of Doom to self promote his worthless ass and in the end his shit game spoke volumes about his actual talent (or lack there of).
Like it or not, he's still around and will emerge again someday. He doing GBA titles now and making money at that. My point is that he's elevated himself to such a level that he truly doesn't deserve and will remain so. He's like a cancer to the industry.Quote:
Originally posted by Chojin
His reputation was obliterated by Daikatana. What more retribution do you need?
Bing Gordon?Quote:
Originally posted by kingoffighters
I would dropkick EA's CEO in a heartbeat. The motherf00ker buy every good company in sight and rape it.
I agree 100%! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
Like it or not, he's still around and will emerge again someday. He doing GBA titles now and making money at that. My point is that he's elevated himself to such a level that he truly doesn't deserve and will remain so. He's like a cancer to the industry.
But if I "accedentally" donkey-heel kicked someone in the balls on the way to kicking John, it'd be Mr. Trip Hawkins.
I vote for Bing Gordon too, if only for running such an arrogant company.
Who's he?Quote:
Originally posted by Yamcha
I vote for Bing Gordon too, if only for running such an arrogant company.
He only helped to orchestrate the most succesful console launch in US history, until PS2 came along to crush the million units Sega sold in 2 months with the Dreamcast. As far as the whole RAM cart thing goes, he was more than likely right. The US Saturn was already a sink hole and the only way to escape it, was to cut it's ties from the US Sega corp.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
Bernie Stolar - I'm sure he's done something good during his stint at Sega. Just being optimistic possibly.
If there was ever a person in the gaming industry, that I had a total dislike for, it's Kelly Flock. I remember him running his big mouth in Next Generation magazine, like he was going to crush EA with 989's superior sports games. Where's the bitch now!
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Originally posted by Tain
Vic Ireland? Never really played a WD game. At least, I don't think so. Lorne Lanning? Hrm.
I love what Working Designs brought over to my Sega CD and Saturn. I'm sure a lot of Turbagraphix-16 fans can also appreciate what WD did to help bring games over for that system as well.
WD brought out a substantial amount of games for the Sega CD, Sega Saturn and Playstation.
Here are a few of the titles:
Sega CD:
Vay
Lunar:SSS
Lunar: EB
Popful Mail
Sega Saturn:
Shining Wisdom
Dragon Force
Iron Storm
Magic Knight Rayearth
Albert Odyssey
PSX:
Vangaurd Bandits
Lunar:SSS
Lunar: EB
Thunder Force V
Vic Ireland may be a prick, but I truely enjoy the games his company took the time to port, that are worthy of my gaming collection.
Jason Rubin. Everytime the man opens his mouth, it sounds like Sony has him on Hypno gas. I just want to kick the shit out of him. Bad. That September 96 Gamefan interview cracked me up, as they made it sound as if Way of the Warrior was some ultra high quality game that set the world on fire.
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Originally posted by Lordmrw
Jason Rubin. Everytime the man opens his mouth, it sounds like Sony has him on Hypno gas. I just want to kick the shit out of him. Bad. That September 96 Gamefan interview cracked me up, as they made it sound as if Way of the Warrior was some ultra high quality game that set the world on fire.
Yeah, but a few people seemed to like Naughty Dog's "Crash Bandicoot Series". I personally thought it was more hype, than fun.
I find it hard to believe that a tiny figure skater could be responsible for all that.Quote:
Originally posted by frostwolf ex
hmmmm..maybe yamaguchi for turning away square and staying with carts
Oh yeah, and Jason Rubins.
you woudl be surprised, her and michelle kwan also engineered the gta sony exclusivity deal.... bitches:lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Masters
I find it hard to believe that a tiny figure skater could be responsible for all that.
Oh yeah, and Jason Rubins.
Damn, did he come across as an asshole. Fortunately, I haven't heard a peep from that jackass in years.Quote:
Originally posted by gamevet
If there was ever a person in the gaming industry, that I had a total dislike for, it's Kelly Flock.
Tough choice. I think the whole Tramiel family needs a fierce beating for ruining Atari and Commodore. The old guy is already dead, but if there is a hell, I'm sure he's there.
You know, he seems like a pretty cool guy in person. I was pleasantly surprised.Quote:
Originally posted by Masters
Oh yeah, and Jason Rubins.
I saw an interview with him on G4, and he didn't seem like such a dick, but then I read interviews with him and he just comes off as being completely retarded.Quote:
Originally posted by BenT
You know, he seems like a pretty cool guy in person. I was pleasantly surprised.
short list:
Ed Boon or his bud that helped him make mortal kombat. (milking a good franchise btw)
3D0's Trip Hawkins. He's an hot-headed idiot who needs to get whatever he's got comming. :bang:
and that one editor who used to work at daily radar because he didn't know what the hell he was ripping on... :rolleyes:
Yu Suzuki.
That reviewer who said, in the Gunbird 2 review in the Official Dreamcast Magazine, something to the effect of "Will this genre please finally die?"
James
Didn't he loan a few million of his own $$$ to help out 3DO? If so then I really can't agree with that, even if he may be part of the reason 3DO is ass now.Quote:
Originally posted by unit003
3D0's Trip Hawkins. He's an hot-headed idiot who needs to get whatever he's got comming. :bang:
Now there's someone we can all get behind.Quote:
Originally posted by James
That reviewer who said, in the Gunbird 2 review in the Official Dreamcast Magazine, something to the effect of "Will this genre please finally die?"
James
after beating him I would force him to work on a new Shenmue in my basement...Quote:
yu suzuki
Can I pick Dave Halverson?
Itagaki. that punk is just asking for one.
My choice aswell.Quote:
Originally posted by FighterX
Bernie Stolar. Isn't he the guy that decided not to bring the Sega Saturn RAM cart to the U.S. market, citing that "no one would pay $80 for a game?"
Let us not forget the many other attrocities he has commited in the gaming arena. Yeah Vic is a prick, but Stolar is just evil.
I would also like to pelt him with empty Giest Force cases after I drop kick him.
Whoever at Capcom was responsible for cancelling the Werewolf The Apocalypse game :(
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Um, no.Quote:
Originally posted by kingoffighters
I would dropkick EA's CEO in a heartbeat. The motherf00ker buy every good company in sight and rape it.
That guy.. Kelly (some last name I've forgotten) who used to run the show at 989. I still remember the highly controversial Next-Gen Mag interview with him and he trashtalked the whole industry while claiming his little baby (GameDay on PS1) completely owned the Madden series. False.
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Originally posted by snagger
That guy.. Kelly (some last name I've forgotten) who used to run the show at 989. I still remember the highly controversial Next-Gen Mag interview with him and he trashtalked the whole industry while claiming his little baby (GameDay on PS1) completely owned the Madden series. False.
Read page 2!
Kelly Folck is his name and he also took nasty shots at Sega in that interview.Quote:
Originally posted by snagger
That guy.. Kelly (some last name I've forgotten) who used to run the show at 989. I still remember the highly controversial Next-Gen Mag interview with him and he trashtalked the whole industry while claiming his little baby (GameDay on PS1) completely owned the Madden series. False.
P.S. I'd love to Dropkick, closeline, and Piledrive Trip Hawkins
and Tommy Tallarico(Well maybe just the dropkick for Tommy because he makes good music).
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Originally posted by skullkid
Kelly Folck is his name and he also took nasty shots at Sega in that interview.
P.S. I'd love to Dropkick, closeline, and Piledrive Trip Hawkins
and Tommy Tallarico(Well maybe just the dropkick for Tommy because he makes good music).
Like I said: "Read page 2"
It's Kelly Flock and I remember the interview very well. It was in Next Generation magazine. He was a total ass!
I second that!Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
Can I pick Dave Halverson?
the bitch decided to close GR and took off with a new house and car to boot, only to pop up with yet ANOTHER mag that isn't nearly half as good.
Shame to hear bout the staff he shafted, they should all lynch mob his ass! :evil:
ok, changed my answer, dave gets my vote too, though i am thinking more of a front kick to the balls.Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
Can I pick Dave Halverson?
A Final Atomic Buster on Bernie Stolar for poleaxing the Sega Saturn. So, he said no one would pay $80 for a game? Just look how many people paid damn near that for Street Fighter II on SNES. Even at that price chances are good that X-Men vs. Street Fighter would've been a hit, considering how it fared in arcades.
I'd reckon that a Capcom game including the 1M RAM would have gone for $70 at most. Additional games could be bought separately for regular price. A 1M RAM cart is not a 32X.
Peter Moore
Sept 20, 2001- Shemnue 2 will not come to any other console any time soon, it is the pinnacle of the DC's resources and a fitting title to usher out the system.
A week after the Xbox announcement- "Listen, Sega is looking to the future and we see a strong synergy with the Xbox brand, Shemnue 2 is a vital part of that."
Honestly, I'm over this, but I can't stand a bold face f****** lie. *-neo
Well, "technically" - depending on your interpretation of "any time soon" - that statement isn't too much of a lie, since it didn't come out for Xbox until a year+ later. But the announced and advertised US release was pulled, and it was weak that I had to import a UK copy ( is it still an import if you bought it at GameStop? ) and I can see why everyone was pissed at Sega/Moore. Gee, everyone kinda still is, huh?Quote:
Originally posted by neoalphazero
Peter Moore
Sept 20, 2001- Shemnue 2 will not come to any other console any time soon, it is the pinnacle of the DC's resources and a fitting title to usher out the system.
Ken Kutaragi.
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Originally posted by bahn
I'd like to dropkick this thread ;)
Peter Molyneux - Because Black and White was promised to be the best game ever and it sucked at gameplay and I fear the same for Fable.
In his defense, Molyneux did say that saying Fable would be the best RPG ever made was foolish of him, but he thinks that the grounds can be met. (Electric Playground)
I agree with you all the way up untill you threw out John Romero.. he's too easy to be a punching bag. Honestly the man had talnet and Id is only half a house without him I think (although Half of Id is more than Twice of most dev houses). Derek Smart = Battlecrusier 3000 or some such. Never played it? Of course you haven't because it was a pile that took FOREVER and then some to leanr the stupid as fucking hell interface. Beyond that, Derek Smart is Teh Best game developer ANYWEHRE if you were to listen to him talk. If you ever browsed Something Awful any you might have seen thier "Derek Smart's Desktop Commander" video which, I might say, is fairly accurate. Derek Smart is that guy on a message board who says he's going to make a kick ass game times One Million. Oddly (I'm not sure if it was a joke or not) he was listed in the Thanks Section in CroTeams Serious Sam. Maybe they were being funny?Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
The only person I think truly deserves to be drop kicked is John Romero. Most others mentioned in this thread have at least done some good, depending on your point of view:
Lorne Lanning - I liked the Oddworld series and look forward to their next.
Vic Ireland - he may be a fool but he's been personally responsible for releasing certain games that would never see the light of day otherwise and actually does some pretty spiffy packaging w/ extras to boot.
Dave Perry - smooth talker but he does have an eye for gameplay and Shiny has done some original games that I really enjoyed so...
Jason Rubin - I enjoyed the Crash series and Jak & Daxter...
Bill Gates - I love my Xbox :)
Derek Smart - who? Does not compute.
EA's CEO - believe it or not EA still does make some good games and you'd be surprised how distant he is to R&D. He doesn't make a difference to majority of EA's employees.
Bernie Stolar - I'm sure he's done something good during his stint at Sega. Just being optimistic possibly.
Just remember John Romero was gonna make you his bitch. So he was a level designer on Doom. Big whoop! I've played better homemade levels then what he cranked out. He used the success of Doom to self promote his worthless ass and in the end his shit game spoke volumes about his actual talent (or lack there of).
I would personally like to spit in my hand before shakeing Mike Roticellio's (however his last name is spelled he's from Electronic Arts currently) hand for his ruthless way of opperating a great company like EA.
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*Smooch*Quote:
Originally posted by bahn
Whoa. We're in agreement? Hell must be freezing right now. :)
Yeah, give Romero some credit. A lot of the bad things that happened to him are equally Eidos's fault (i.e. the ad campaign) in addition to Romero's lack of leadership.
[edit follows] By the way, thanks for the little nudge about Kelly Flock (I salute my A.D.D.-like lack of reading skills). As for whoever asked where he is now, I want to think he's working in some development division of Sony, like the MMORPG studios or something like that. Can anyone confirm/deny that?
ISD (Ion Storm Dallas) wanted to advertise Daikatana in a way that represented the LAN party experience according to one former employee. The "...make you his bitch" was supposed to reflect that. It was one of a string of mistakes made on the road to Daikatana which was a brillant vision which failed very very miserably. John is a creative guy and at Id he has Carmack behind him to keep things moving forward and never forgeting that a game has to be made from it. Id's games have been by-and-large static since Romero's departure. The creative drive left with him (though Doom 3 looks like it's back). Romeros brilliance as a game designer is happered by his desire to innovate and work as freely and as losely as possible. He had his eyes on the prize but he never once looked at the rocky road 'neath his feet. It's interesting to compare ISA with ISD. Thier ambitions were the same, thier methods were polar opposites though. It shows when compareing Deus Ex with Daikatana. Eidos could not be faulted with the exception of not overseeing Mr. Romero.
Now...
Flock is a shrewd businessman and an honest one too. His honestly makes gamers hate him which I am perfectly sure he is fine with because he knows what he is doing. Football coaches are not going to put thier ear to the stands to determine what thier next play is even though it's the crowd that pays his bills. He's there to do what he has to do. When he said "We don't listen to our customers, gamers do not know what they want" he is right in the sence he was talking. Try getting a good concensus from the whole of EQ players out there on what Verant/Sony should do with the game and try getting some good thesible Ideas out of that majority. It's not going to happen. Too many people want too many things and most all of them are unreasonable so he just burrows down and does what he thinks is best and all of the sudden - he's a wealthy wealthy man. Honest to a fault perhaps.
I'm on the Peter Moore bandwagon.
Moore inherited a sinking ship. The lie is a lie and I suppose it's justified but yeah... you gotta say somethings when you're trying to lead a company. That last part also goes for Flock who works for Sony Online / Verant snapper.
I would say Yu Susuki needs to retire. He's too full on himself and I belive he's as soon quit as conceed that his concepts are neither good nor profitable by his own making and NOT the fault of Sega and thier Marketing temps.
Others mentioned:
Itagaki - I think he's rad and has a good philosophy on design. I don't have the same tastes as he does but I like when he says "if it's not cool, then there is no point" because I think there is ALWAYS room for completly rad games out there that just make you say, "woah, cool!" Maybe some don't think he delivers on that but I can see it. DOA might not bet the deepest sea of the seven but it certianly comes off as cool when you see the moves and the way they are performed by you. It's fun, with others it's a nice little challange for a bit. Ninja Gaiden looks to be capitializing on the cool-factor as well. I'm all for it. As for DOAX, well, appearnltly - Boobs are totally bitchin. That's the only harm Itagaki has done. I see no fault in it.
Molyneux: Prowd of himself for sure. But again I like his design style for a whole other reason. He seems to me the opposite of the spectrum from Itagaki actually. I don't think B&W delivered on being the most revolutionary game ever but it did do things diffrently and it wasn't a complete pile. It shows strenth in a developer to be able to beat your own path to a game and still have it turn out half way decent (back to Daikatana which didn't). Fable seems to take a diffrent route than B&W so we'll see how that goes. I think without Molyneux the industry would be all the more stale. He's one of the few who keep it interesting.
Vic: Heh... he's a 'tard but no one else seems to be doing what he does. There's room for a company like WD but Mr. Ireland uses his mouth too much.
Rubins: All that hate for him comes from controversial PR bullshit. He said "the Dreamcast is a turd" for the same reason Sega has Sonic roasting Crash Bandicoot dolls over a spit. It's shakes things up and any media is good media. It makes people more aware of you and what you're doing. It's like Howard Stern. In reality, Rubins no less a great developer and no less a good guy I am sure. I mean, the lead designer for Smilebit talked smack on the PS2 when JGR came out. It's not that he HATES it or Sony but because he works for Smilebit which works for Sega and NOT Sony. It's all the same. That's something to remember about all figures in the industry. Flock, Moore, Itagaki, Molyneux, Gates, Fries, Susuki et al. They're all working on a product in some way. They want to sell it so they'll do and say what it takes. All the way from 989 being better than EA to Sonic roasting Crash to Rubins to Dreamcast:"You're a Turd" to Molyneux throwing down the gloves against every other RPG ever made. It's all a matter of putting your PR proof goggles on and sort out the bullshit from the genuine information.
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About Victor Ireland:
I don't think people would hate him as much if he didn't act like WD was creating the games they publish.
In interviews, he speakes as if they are completely programming games like Lunar for PSX, or Vanguard Bandits :bs:when in reality they are only doing translation work and making neat puppets for people who pay $10.00 up front
I would dropkick who ever the FUCK thought that US gamers don't deserve special editions.I meen FUCKING GUNGRAVE,you could have either got a keychain of his red gun,a coffin wallet with a bullet keychain,or a fuckin 4' of Grave.i meen GOD DAMN!!!!Fuckin Xenosaga got a soundtrack,making of game and a 4' of KOS-MOS!!! For GODS SAKES who is the dumb ass that decides U.S gamers arn't into this....thats why its a..wait for it.......LIMITED EDITION!!....fuckin dumbasses!
JBNagis:mad:
That would be a lot of drop kicking ;) But I'm with you on this one, even Metal Gear Solid which sold much better in the USA then it did in Japan and still they where the only ones who got a premium package of Metal Gear Solid 2... even the Europian release got a PS2 MGS2 system bundle but we got jack shit, that's just not right :(Quote:
Originally posted by JBNagis
I would dropkick who ever the FUCK thought that US gamers don't deserve special editions.I meen FUCKING GUNGRAVE,you could have either got a keychain of his red gun,a coffin wallet with a bullet keychain,or a fuckin 4' of Grave.i meen GOD DAMN!!!!Fuckin Xenosaga got a soundtrack,making of game and a 4' of KOS-MOS!!! For GODS SAKES who is the dumb ass that decides U.S gamers arn't into this....thats why its a..wait for it.......LIMITED EDITION!!....fuckin dumbasses!
JBNagis:mad:
I'd also dropkick the head of Atlus USA for bringing over for Sonys and Nintendos first party games, when they could have brought over one of their own masterpieces.
I agree, while I don't hate what they brought over they should really focus on thier own games cause they have some good ones and sadly they seem to overlook that when it comes to domestic releases... I never relized what a small branch Atlus USA was until last years E3 :chick:Quote:
Originally posted by xS
I'd also dropkick the head of Atlus USA for bringing over for Sonys and Nintendos first party games, when they could have brought over one of their own masterpieces.
for that, he deserves a good shot in the balls!Quote:
Originally posted by neoalphazero
Peter Moore
Sept 20, 2001- Shemnue 2 will not come to any other console any time soon, it is the pinnacle of the DC's resources and a fitting title to usher out the system.
A week after the Xbox announcement- "Listen, Sega is looking to the future and we see a strong synergy with the Xbox brand, Shemnue 2 is a vital part of that."
Honestly, I'm over this, but I can't stand a bold face f****** lie. *-neo
In regards to Romero: He made an overbloated ass of himself once. Yes, he made Daikatan, yes, it was overhyped and absolutely miserable, but what has he done since that was so bad? Shouldn't we only hurt those that don't learn from their mistakes, or keep doing idiotic things over and over? Romero's screwed up majorly once, and if he comes back and pulls crap that like again then sure, I'm down with whooping his ass. Until then, wait and see if he's learned his lesson.Yes, but Atlus added the "always low-res/no slow-down" mode in Sky Gunner, which Sony probably wouldn't have. Without that mode, the last duel in Ciel's missions is completely unplayable.Quote:
Originally posted by xS
I'd also dropkick the head of Atlus USA for bringing over for Sonys and Nintendos first party games, when they could have brought over one of their own masterpieces.
But Nintendo and Sony not bringing over their own games is kinda wrong.
does working on a cell-phone version of Red Faction count? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by MechDeus
In regards to Romero: He made an overbloated ass of himself once. Yes, he made Daikatan, yes, it was overhyped and absolutely miserable, but what has he done since that was so bad?
I think you'd rather dropkick the head of SOJ Hayao Nakayama.Quote:
Originally posted by Kenshin Himura
A Final Atomic Buster on Bernie Stolar for poleaxing the Sega Saturn. So, he said no one would pay $80 for a game? Just look how many people paid damn near that for Street Fighter II on SNES. Even at that price chances are good that X-Men vs. Street Fighter would've been a hit, considering how it fared in arcades.
http://www.atani-software.net/segaba...aoNakayama.gif
Behold the face of evil!
Read here at what a colossal fuckup this man was and how he basically ran Sega into the ground.
If he shuts up and makes tiny crap games for the rest of his life I don't think it affects anyone.Quote:
Originally posted by Videodrone
does working on a cell-phone version of Red Faction count? :confused:
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Read here at what a colossal fuckup this man was and how he basically ran Sega into the ground.
You've gotta be kidding me. I had no idea that it got that far.Quote:
VF3 for Saturn was officially cancelled on 17 September 1998 even though Sega of Japan had the completed game ready to send to the pressing plants.
...Carry on. :)
Bing Gordon.
Why?
Just watch the way that dude talks on the developer's press conference over at gamespot.
I'd smack that guy in the mouth.
Miyamoto.
Why?
It would just be cool to do that once.
While I think it would be incredibly fucked up, I ain't gonna lie and say I wouldn't laugh it. I'd be on the god damn floor.
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Originally posted by Tain
You've gotta be kidding me. I had no idea that it got that far.
...Carry on. :)
I thought it was all a bunch of rumors. Supposedly the game used an add on device, to increase the Saturn's polygon pushing power. I wonder if that device exists as well.
You know, its been a long-time since I've read that article. I can't help but think its a damn shame what he did. I hope he's living in a refrigerator behind a 7-11 for what he did.Quote:
Originally posted by Melf
Read here at what a colossal fuckup this man was and how he basically ran Sega into the ground.
Yet we get no gameplay footage = me scared.Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Moore inherited a sinking ship. The lie is a lie and I suppose it's justified but yeah... you gotta say somethings when you're trying to lead a company. That last part also goes for Flock who works for Sony Online / Verant snapper.
I would say Yu Susuki needs to retire. He's too full on himself and I belive he's as soon quit as conceed that his concepts are neither good nor profitable by his own making and NOT the fault of Sega and thier Marketing temps.
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Itagaki - I think he's rad and has a good philosophy on design. I don't have the same tastes as he does but I like when he says "if it's not cool, then there is no point" because I think there is ALWAYS room for completly rad games out there that just make you say, "woah, cool!" Maybe some don't think he delivers on that but I can see it. DOA might not bet the deepest sea of the seven but it certianly comes off as cool when you see the moves and the way they are performed by you. It's fun, with others it's a nice little challange for a bit. Ninja Gaiden looks to be capitializing on the cool-factor as well. I'm all for it. As for DOAX, well, appearnltly - Boobs are totally bitchin. That's the only harm Itagaki has done. I see no fault in it.
Molyneux: Prowd of himself for sure. But again I like his design style for a whole other reason. He seems to me the opposite of the spectrum from Itagaki actually. I don't think B&W delivered on being the most revolutionary game ever but it did do things diffrently and it wasn't a complete pile. It shows strenth in a developer to be able to beat your own path to a game and still have it turn out half way decent (back to Daikatana which didn't). Fable seems to take a diffrent route than B&W so we'll see how that goes. I think without Molyneux the industry would be all the more stale. He's one of the few who keep it interesting.
Vic: Heh... he's a 'tard but no one else seems to be doing what he does. There's room for a company like WD but Mr. Ireland uses his mouth too much.
Rubins: All that hate for him comes from controversial PR bullshit. He said "the Dreamcast is a turd" for the same reason Sega has Sonic roasting Crash Bandicoot dolls over a spit. It's shakes things up and any media is good media. It makes people more aware of you and what you're doing. It's like Howard Stern. In reality, Rubins no less a great developer and no less a good guy I am sure. I mean, the lead designer for Smilebit talked smack on the PS2 when JGR came out. It's not that he HATES it or Sony but because he works for Smilebit which works for Sega and NOT Sony. It's all the same. That's something to remember about all figures in the industry. Flock, Moore, Itagaki, Molyneux, Gates, Fries, Susuki et al. They're all working on a product in some way. They want to sell it so they'll do and say what it takes. All the way from 989 being better than EA to Sonic roasting Crash to Rubins to Dreamcast:"You're a Turd" to Molyneux throwing down the gloves against every other RPG ever made. It's all a matter of putting your PR proof goggles on and sort out the bullshit from the genuine information.
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I'd still like to drop kick him, either way.
:lol: If you think about it, though, drop kicking ANYBODY is pretty cool. Like two thumbs up cool.Quote:
Originally posted by MVS
Miyamoto.
Why?
It would just be cool to do that once.
I want to kick Lorne Lanning in the ass for being a liar. But that can be said of a lot of people. Especially prior to a console's release.
All of you guys want to beat the hell out of Lanning...hmmm..maybe cause he looks a bit like Yanni. :D As for who I'd like to see get the ass-kicking beatdowns are the following, all have pretty much been mentioned:
Vic Ireland - Granted, he brings over great RPGs (Lunar, LunarEB, Vay, Popful Mail, etc.) and titles no one else would think of bringing (Dragon Force, Iron Storm, etc.) plus Arc The Lad Collection which I am happy about, his arrogance is a poison I can live without. Acts as though HE creates all of these titles (hey Vic, I'm sure GameArts would love to know you take credit for alot of their works :rolleyes: ) when WD does nothing but translate and add jokes, love or hate, to the translations. I still remember when he said WD would be creating their first title, an RPG...never happened. I also hate him for almost wanting Sega's doom of Dreamcast way back when on those infamous Usenet wars and saying Sega's titles would be ported over to PS2 in the near future. He ended up right, but the arrogant way he said it and how happy he seemed that it happened pissed me the hell off. :mad:
Kelly Flock - I'm kinda torn between whether I'd beat the shit out of him or not. I still have that Next-Gen issue, actually have it right by me right now on my HUGE collection of game mags , and everytime I read that interview, I laugh my ass off at how wrong he really was. :lol: He was arrogant, cocky and off the wall but it's something I kind of respected because he would flat out tell you how he felt and what he thought was wrong with the Game Industry. How far 989 has fallen eh?
Jason Rubin - I hate him pretty much almost the same reason as Vic but pretty much for his interviews where he jabs Sega and where he thinks Crash, Jak and Daxter are better than anything anyone has ever created.
EA but specifically YOU Bing Gordon - I remember this jerk's Next Gen interview...."Do you think Dreamcast can survive without EA's support?"...."No". You made it personal, Bing. :mad:
For the guys who'd like to beat up Itagaki, I like this guy. He's confident in his work and really believes DOA stacks up better than the Tekkens and Virtua Fighters of the world. I like his designs also and I'm excited on how Ninja Gaiden will turn out. Plus, you know HE knows the boobies sell. :D
So people hate this chrius rubin guy because he disses on sega?
All of you guys want to beat the hell out of Lanning...hmmm..maybe cause he looks a bit like Yanni. :D As for who I'd like to see get the ass-kicking beatdowns are the following, all have pretty much been mentioned:
Vic Ireland - Granted, he brings over great RPGs (Lunar, LunarEB, Vay, Popful Mail, etc.) and titles no one else would think of bringing (Dragon Force, Iron Storm, etc.) plus Arc The Lad Collection which I am happy about, his arrogance is a poison I can live without. Acts as though HE creates all of these titles (hey Vic, I'm sure GameArts would love to know you take credit for alot of their works :rolleyes: ) when WD does nothing but translate and add jokes, love or hate, to the translations. I still remember when he said WD would be creating their first title, an RPG...never happened. I also hate him for almost wanting Sega's doom of Dreamcast way back when on those infamous Usenet wars and saying Sega's titles would be ported over to PS2 in the near future. He ended up right, but the arrogant way he said it and how happy he seemed that it happened pissed me the hell off. :mad:
Kelly Flock - I'm kinda torn between whether I'd beat the shit out of him or not. I still have that Next-Gen issue, actually have it right by me right now on my HUGE collection of game mags , and everytime I read that interview, I laugh my ass off at how wrong he really was. :lol: He was arrogant, cocky and off the wall but it's something I kind of respected because he would flat out tell you how he felt and what he thought was wrong with the Game Industry. How far 989 has fallen eh?
Jason Rubin - I hate him pretty much almost the same reason as Vic but pretty much for his interviews where he jabs Sega and where he thinks Crash, Jak and Daxter are better than anything anyone has ever created.
EA but specifically YOU Bing Gordon - I remember this jerk's Next Gen interview...."Do you think Dreamcast can survive without EA's support?"...."No". You made it personal, Bing. :mad:
For the guys who'd like to beat up Itagaki, I like this guy. He's confident in his work and really believes DOA stacks up better than the Tekkens and Virtua Fighters of the world. I like his designs also and I'm excited on how Ninja Gaiden will turn out. Plus, you know HE knows the boobies sell. :D
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BING FREAKING GORDON
bill gates
shigeru miyamoto....
nah, just kidding.. i like the lil sumvabitch, he's cool.
Dave Halverson, if only to knock some sense into him. That bit about DMC2's great story line is absolutely insane, either Capcom payed him to say it or he's lost his mind.