Privacy Dead by 2054?

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14 Apr 2003, 12:34 PM
gameoverDude

Privacy Dead by 2054?

Forget Digital Angel; I'm talking about something way worse. OK DJ, let's play "Somebody's Watching Me" by Rockwell.

Tribune Media Sevices' civil liberties expert Robyn Blumner has written an article regarding RFID (Radio Frequency ID) tags. They are confetti-size - small enough to embed in clothing (Spywear anyone?) or a pop can. Each tag basically contains its own unique ID number.

Marketers could spy on you with it as far as how you wear a certain article of clothing or use other merchandise.

In theory, the RFID tags (aka e-tags) could be put in cash, stamps, or letters. Not good. One supplier of the tags is Alien Technology.

Burglars could theoretically canvass alleys with RFID receivers to detect expensive electronic items via the RFID chips on the discarded packaging material.

Now here are a few related links:

http://www.autoidcenter.org/technology.asp
The Auto-ID Center, which is behind this idea

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-980345.html

australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6216911%5e15331%5e%5enbv%5e15306-15319,00.html
You won't buy any more Benetton after you read this...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale...lemetrics.html

You want more? Search Google with the query rfid spy tags and knock yourself out.
14 Apr 2003, 01:48 PM
YellerDog

You sir, are gullable.
14 Apr 2003, 02:04 PM
Master

And paranoid.
14 Apr 2003, 02:19 PM
gameoverDude

Quote:

Originally posted by YellerDog
You sir, are gullable.

Quote:

Originally posted by Master
And paranoid.

Paranoid? No. Leery? Yes.

http://www.ebusinessforum.com/index....ry&doc_id=6350
http://www.alientechnology.com/news/..._of_Things.htm (Forbes article)
www.nocards.org (CASPIAN, a privacy advocates' group homepage)
14 Apr 2003, 02:29 PM
gameoverDude

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Image from Forbes, with red circle used to highlight privacy concerns.
14 Apr 2003, 02:31 PM
YellerDog

Put the bong down, it's gonna be ok, I promise. :D
14 Apr 2003, 03:50 PM
gameoverDude

Quote:

Originally posted by YellerDog
Put the bong down, it's gonna be ok, I promise. :D

:bs: You don't get it, do you.
14 Apr 2003, 04:13 PM
YellerDog

Oh, but I do. And you're still high. I seriously doubt clothing tags are going to bring about the end of privacy.
14 Apr 2003, 04:16 PM
Lordmrw

By 2054, I'll be so old I won't give a good god damn whether someone can see me taking a shit or looking at my ass as I get dressed in the morning.
14 Apr 2003, 04:17 PM
elBeardoAlwaysWins

I thought the credit card and internet already collectively killed our privacy....oh well.
14 Apr 2003, 04:38 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenshin Himura
Image from Forbes, with red circle used to highlight privacy concerns.

Reminds me of Minority Report.
14 Apr 2003, 06:22 PM
basemies

they can be killed in a microwave.

they only work within 3> feet of a scanner.

you're worrying too much.

i could really care less if people know which brand of clothing i am wearing. plus, it may be possible to hack these into tricking scanners that you have a 32" tv concealed on your person.
14 Apr 2003, 06:26 PM
Josh

Now you just have to microwave your clothes.

Hope Hypercolor doesn't come back into fashion.
14 Apr 2003, 06:31 PM
Master

I don't believe in privacy anyway. Its not like we have that right. We have the right to be spared from unlawful search and seizure, we have no privacy rights.

If you are this paranoid, go live in the woods and don't interact with others or buy anything ever again.
14 Apr 2003, 08:34 PM
Mr-K

I don't care if people know what I'm wearing.

2 Skinnee J's T-shirt, Etnies Jeans, and Duff tenis shoes.

Woopideedoo, you all know my darkest secrets.
14 Apr 2003, 08:59 PM
680x0

hehehe, for a highschool science project it did a proposal for implanting repeat fellons with a cellular transceiver. It would use nickel-titanium "memory wire" to seat behind the brain. It would require an external battery (using current tech) in tandem with an small internal voltage supply. If the felon tried to remove the battery or transceiver the secondary source would either send out a final message or run the remaining juice across the felon's brain. Needless to say, my teacher was "concerned"
14 Apr 2003, 11:45 PM
seen

Its amazing how some people on this board do not give a fuck about their privacy and privacy of others. Yes this shit is dangerous. I personally know a lot of data tracking is being done already on people. This and Microsoft's Palladium are going too far. Also our government doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about all these proposals and in some cases even encouraging them for their own spy endeavours. Paranoid, I don't think so. I make it a point not to get tracked or attached anywhere where I could be tracked, because this information can and will be someday used against you. Sheep, beware.
14 Apr 2003, 11:46 PM
YellerDog

You are also gullible.
14 Apr 2003, 11:50 PM
seen

Veremos.;)
14 Apr 2003, 11:56 PM
Opaque

I have the srangefeeling that little radio thingies aren't going to ruin my privacy...
14 Apr 2003, 11:56 PM
Astral

Quote:

Originally posted by Master
I don't believe in privacy anyway. Its not like we have that right. We have the right to be spared from unlawful search and seizure, we have no privacy rights.

:lol: We have no right to privacy......:lol: ......are you serious....:wtf:

That is a basic human right. People don't have the right to know everyone esle's business.
14 Apr 2003, 11:57 PM
YellerDog

Until we're all wearing Battle Royale collars, we're ok.
15 Apr 2003, 12:00 AM
680x0

who here would wear a tracking device if the gov't gave you a nice tax break?
15 Apr 2003, 12:02 AM
Opaque

I dont need no stinking taxbreak...
15 Apr 2003, 12:08 AM
YellerDog

I'd do it, if they gave me free land.

If I thought my privacy is so important, I'd run around in a sheet. And in this town, that will get you stomped. :)
15 Apr 2003, 12:10 AM
Thief Silver

I'd do it if I could take it off when I do illegal things >.>
15 Apr 2003, 12:24 AM
Drewbacca

What's so cool about being an individual anyway?
15 Apr 2003, 12:27 AM
680x0

I'm afraid I don't follow. How does having your life monitored strip you of your individuality?
15 Apr 2003, 12:31 AM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by 680x0
hehehe, for a highschool science project it did a proposal for implanting repeat fellons with a cellular transceiver. It would use nickel-titanium "memory wire" to seat behind the brain. It would require an external battery (using current tech) in tandem with an small internal voltage supply. If the felon tried to remove the battery or transceiver the secondary source would either send out a final message or run the remaining juice across the felon's brain. Needless to say, my teacher was "concerned"

That's awesome.
15 Apr 2003, 12:35 AM
Astral

Poll.

Who here likes controlling parents?

Raise your hands.
15 Apr 2003, 12:39 AM
Captain Vegetable

If by controlling you mean parents who actually give a damn, I'm all for it.

*raises hand*
15 Apr 2003, 12:41 AM
Opaque

*slaps Captain Vegetable*

get a hold of yourself man...
15 Apr 2003, 12:48 AM
Astral

there are parents who try to control too much for other reasons than just because they care, that is anothe topic though. My point is, did anyone enjoy your parents intruding on your life when you were young? So when your an adult and should not need to be monitured why does that become okay? Does not the fact that we are becoming very complacent worry anyone?
15 Apr 2003, 01:34 AM
Mr-K

Quote:

Originally posted by YellerDog
Until we're all wearing Battle Royale collars, we're ok.

But then I would get to kill mother fuckers.
15 Apr 2003, 01:47 AM
YellerDog

You are SO starting out with a pot lid.
15 Apr 2003, 01:58 AM
Mr-K

*shrugs* At least I'll live.
15 Apr 2003, 02:01 AM
YellerDog

Hm... yeah. Yeah you will.
15 Apr 2003, 02:57 AM
Opaque

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr-K
But then I would get to kill mother fuckers.

I wanna kill mother fuckers too!