I want Colin Powell to actually run, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat
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I want Colin Powell to actually run, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat
A simple solution to this dilemma would be instituting a "second choice" bit on the ballot. People could vote their conscience or whatever, but have a realistic backup if (when :P) their first choice loses. You could then vote Green without helping the Republicans, for example.
That's a nice idea, BenT - it'd also allow candidates to get over 50% of popular support, in theory.
Say you're a moderate who supports the Democrats (or the Republicans, spacecowboy, I'm sorry). However, you want to express your moderacy, your support for the president, whatever, by choosing Republican as your second choice.
Democrats lose, and all of the Democrat/Republican votes are tacked onto the Republican total - probably pushing the Republican candidate over 50%, thus giving him a 'mandate'. The effect would just be psychological, but still, it'd be good to have Presidential candidates with 50% effective support of voters.
That's actually a really spectacular idea, BenT - you think of that yourself? I've never read about it, dunno who/if anyone uses that system.
Why? Because he's black? I have no problem with the guy, but he isn't some savior just because he's a prominent politician who happens to be african american.Quote:
Originally posted by enigmajelly
I want Colin Powell to actually run, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat
I'm not saying you, but I'm sick of people trying to shrug off any semblance of racism by giving Powell a push. He isn't going to run for various reasons, and nobody should be president when they don't WANT to be.
Again, not saying you are a racist, but I'm tired of people using the only Black Republican they can think of as an excuse to try to be trendy hipsters.
Ugh. I'm so full of shit. I should just shut up. PTI.
You're not full of shit, Master - I don't know how many people I've talked to who think that all Republicans are evil...except for Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice, who are just confused/trying to work for change inside of the party. This is a really, really common view on my campus.
It's stupid, but it's also racist, in a way - what, whites know enough to be actively evil Republicans, but African-American Republicans are just unwitting dupes?
All I have to say is:
Vote for whom you believe in. You may think that your votes for Nader go unnoticed, but the more votes they get the better the chances of getting funding from the Government. What's the magic number? Is it 12% or 15%?
Either way, I won't be voting for Nader unless he impresses me with some changes to his political beliefs.
5%'s all you need for matching funds, as far as I know.
I don't think you should vote for whom you believe in, you should vote for the policies you believe in. Figure out what you want the government to do, and then pick the candidate with the best shot of accomplishing that.
Nah, I think I saw it suggested in some political article a few months ago. I really liked it, and would love to see it implemented nationwide.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
That's actually a really spectacular idea, BenT - you think of that yourself? I've never read about it, dunno who/if anyone uses that system.
SC, Id wager that every Republican is the same as every Democrat. Sure, some support abortion, some dont, blah blah, but really at the core of it they're all money-grubbing whores who will grovel to whomever throws money in front of it. The Democrats have basically defined their organization for decades on "whatever the Republicans aren't doing". Its really quite sad and America is in need of another Populist party.Quote:
Originally posted by spacecowboy
PS. Station, Al Gore isn't running and does it really matter? It's not about the individual, it's about the ideology. Al Gore is the same as every other Democrat and Bush is the same as every other Republican. There is rarely (ie Clinton) a candidate that takes a third way.
Yes it's 5%, but you also have to raise something like at least $5000 in 20 states as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
5%'s all you need for matching funds, as far as I know.
I don't think you should vote for whom you believe in, you should vote for the policies you believe in. Figure out what you want the government to do, and then pick the candidate with the best shot of accomplishing that.
So what if someone does like Colin Powell or Condi Rice? Does that make them racist because they like black people? How does that make sense? While I don't care for either's politics, I think they are actually good people. I don't say this because they're black, but because I believe them to be good people. I can say that about a lot of people, regardless of skin color. So how does that make me racist? Once again, your logic doesn't make sense.
BTW, I wouldn't vote for Powell or Rice for that matter, although it might be nice to see a woman as President.
SC