With a lot less off road capabilities to boot.
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With a lot less off road capabilities to boot.
No. I stopped taking things from my parents a long long time ago.Quote:
Originally posted by sphere79
This coming from someone who drives a RAV 4!? Seriously, did your mom get tired of it or something?
My car is fast, comfortable, and can haul two 4x12 speaker cabinets, six guitars, a 1x14 bass cabinet, three amp heads, and still have room for me and a friend.Quote:
Originally posted by sphere79
Is that thing even considered an SUV? It's built on a car chassis, and has what - a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder engine? Geez, my mother drives a Durango with a 360 (5.9 liter) V8 ( can you say low-end TORQUE? ) - now THAT is an SUV, 18 miles to the gallon and all.
I could give two shits and a fuck if I can take it off roading. All I care about is that it can get me to 7-11 during a blizzard.
The redesigned 2001+ Rav 4's are a lot better than the pre 2001 RAV's. More power, more room and much more comfortable. Reliable as a motherfucker too. I have a '97 and I'm looking at one of those or a Freelander for my next car.
/me turns purple with rage.Quote:
Originally posted by Calliander
She had dogs in her back seat and was on her phone and didn't notice that the light was red.
I have nothing but pure, unfiltered hatred for resource-wasting, dog-toting, cell-phone-dependant fuckwads like that. Seriously, I'm gonna end up in prison someday for beating one of these idiots to death with my bare hands.
See, unlike most of the Me-people who drive the things, you actually have a use for it (hauling heavy musical equipment around). And trust me, having something like that is almost necessary for living where I do (mountain foothills in Maine). You have no idea the headaches and hassles I've experienced trying to drive to work in over a foot of snow in a compact station wagon.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
My car is fast, comfortable, and can haul two 4x12 speaker cabinets, six guitars, a 1x14 bass cabinet, three amp heads, and still have room for me and a friend.
I could give two shits and a fuck if I can take it off roading. All I care about is that it can get me to 7-11 during a blizzard.
That's insane. I'll take some photos from my bedroom window so you guys can see the cars we use here in the UK. I guess you'll be kinda shocked at the (small) size.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Heheh, Sidez - you know Land Rovers, Range Rovers? Every other vehicle you see in America is like one of those, except often bigger, much bigger.
But as usual my camera is out of batteries :lol: Maybe later today.
Safety has NOTHING to do with weight. hell, it hurts it's chances.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
an 8,000lb+ Hummer H2 or a 3,000lb convertible? Safety isn't all about weight, of course, but it makes a difference.
when driving your big-ass Hummer that weights close to 4 metric tons, youre driving with a great deal more force than a 3000 pound vehicle.
not only is that unsafe for you, but it sure as hell isnt helping the person who youre slamming into with your fucking SUV.
so why doesnt everyone drive SUVs you say? because
a.) theyre way too expensive
b.) no one really needs them
c.) theyre ugly
d.) they suck gas like a cheap hooker.
a.) Mine cost about $22,000. Perfectly acceptable.Quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant
so why doesnt everyone drive SUVs you say? because
a.) theyre way too expensive
b.) no one really needs them
c.) theyre ugly
d.) they suck gas like a cheap hooker.
b.) No one really needs anything. Especially video games.
c.) My car is fucking pretty. Go to hell.
d.) I get around 28-30mpg, which isn't fantastic, but still fine with me.
Force that your Hummer can withstand much more effectively because of its 8000lb weight. Larger, Heavier vehicles are safer in collisions - I'm not sure where the best place to go to have that proven to you would be, but it's pretty fundamental traffic safety stuff. Try the Institute for Highway Safety (or something like that). You're going to be safer in an H2 than you would be in a Toyota Echo.Quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant
Safety has NOTHING to do with weight. hell, it hurts it's chances.
when driving your big-ass Hummer that weights close to 4 metric tons, youre driving with a great deal more force than a 3000 pound vehicle.
Again, I'm going to reiterate that being in a heavier vehicle is not necessarily safer in a collision.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Force that your Hummer can withstand much more effectively because of its 8000lb weight. Larger, Heavier vehicles are safer in collisions - I'm not sure where the best place to go to have that proven to you would be, but it's pretty fundamental traffic safety stuff. Try the Institute for Highway Safety (or something like that). You're going to be safer in an H2 than you would be in a Toyota Echo.
For starters, in a collision, a heavier vehicle going at the same speed possesses more energy and momentum than a smaller vehicle. This adds to the severity of the collision.
Secondly, in the case of an accident by an SUV, the chassis is usually stiffer and more rigid since it is built on a truck chassis. The unyielding chassis in any collision, provides less energy absorption than a more flexible chassis... this in turn means that the undisappated energy is transferred to the passengers of the car and does more damage to them instead.
Thirdly, most SUVs don't have as much crash protection features built in... cars are 'softer' naturally. While this means your car takes more damage it also means that it's taking more of the brunt of the crash for you. It's a devastating crash when you total an SUV... yet, not so bad in a standard car.
Fourthly, in a side collision with another large vehicle, there's a good chance of rolling over. I know there's actually a significant statistic that shows how some minor crashes (i.e. one where major injury would've been avoided) turn fatal just by the mere fact that the SUV rolled over in a collision. The fact is, that nearly none of the popular mid-to-full size SUVs have a 5 star rollover rating.
Lastly, in most cases, we're talking about avoidance and preventation. The SAFEST you can be is when there ISN'T an accident. It's been shown time and time again, that the larger your vehicle, the less ability you have to evade an accident. Poor turning response, rolling over, terrible braking distances (a DIRECT result of increased vehicle weight) mean that you have an increased chance of being in an accident to begin with.
http://www.hwysafety.org/srpdfs/sr3301.pdf
Go to the "pickups and utility" tab. There's a dirrect correlation shown between 1990-1995 occupant death rates and the weight of the vehicles - the heavier the vehicle, the better.
The lightest vehicles seem to be most dangerous in all situations, including one-vehicle crashes. Things get even worse for the small car drivers when you have a light vehicle crashing with a heavy one. I don't know much about physics (AP Physics about 5 years ago), but from what the article seems to indicate, the added force of the SUV's weight effects the smaller car - not the SUV's occupants. What you've mentioned is true, negitoro, about SUV handling, but even factoring the problematic handling of trucks, weight still seems to directly benefit a car's safeness.
There's definitely a lot that could be done to SUVs/trucks in order to make collisions with those trucks safer for the small car passengers - the Dodge Ram's front end looks like it was designed to kill people in compact cars, so some sort of cow-catcher device that would keep small cars from being crunched would be helpful.
Nonetheless, from what I understand, the roads were be safer if small cars got heavier - if we porked up cars like the Toyota Echo or the Civic - not if we started banning cars like the H2.
http://www.hwysafety.org/sr_ddr/sr3507.htm is another one.