Franchises you wouldn't mind being milked...

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16 May 2003, 07:01 PM
Andy

Franchises you wouldn't mind being milked...

Sure, milking a successful franchise is almost always considered a bad thing, but I'm sure most of us have games that we wouldn't mind at all seeing this happen to. For clarification, milking a franchise, at least to me, just means making a sequel to a game with minimal changes to the core of the gameplay. Also, it doesn't count if the games go through a generational leap, for instance, milking of Super Mario Bros and milking of Mario 64 would count as two different things. That said, what are yours? Mine are:

Metal Gear Solid series on PS2: This is one franchise I really wouldn't mind a yearly incarnation of. The production values, direction, music and what not are all just of such high quality that playing through each with the same basic gameplay wouldn't bother me at all. Just take the MGS2 engine, throw it in a new story and environment each time, remix the themes some more, and keep making Snake such a badass (and no Raiden) and I'd be happy.

Shenmue series: I guess the games could stand for some technical improvements, but even without them, I would love a bunch more Shenmues. Have Ryo travel to new exotic and atmospheric areas each time, keep the exact same voice actors, give me more of the same style of wonderful music, and keep all of the quirkiness of the series and I'd be first in line for each one.
16 May 2003, 07:04 PM
Josh

Street Fighter: Give me rehashes with stupid names, and one new move. I'll still buy them all.
Hell... If they change the animation on Ryu's foward kick and called it Street Fighter III: New Kick Edition I'd still buy it.

I second that vote for Metal Gear.
16 May 2003, 07:05 PM
MVS

A couple more JSR's would be cool.

I really like those games, faults and all, and a new one or three would do nicely.
16 May 2003, 07:07 PM
Andy

Quote:

Originally posted by 88mph
Street Fighter III: New Kick Edition

:lol: :lol: :lol:
16 May 2003, 07:11 PM
red_war_machine

Phantasy Star. The old ones.

Typical, really. Sonic Team take an old franchise and really innovate it, adding something different... and all I want is old Phantasy star back again. o_O

I'll bear that in mind next time I bemoan the lack of originality in the industry.
16 May 2003, 07:15 PM
Mfkzt

I wouldn't call PSO innovative. It's Diablo in 3D.

I can't think of any series I want milked. I get tired of sequels even if they aren't that bad.
16 May 2003, 07:21 PM
red_war_machine

It's innovative for Phantasy Star.

Plus, as a console game, it was.
16 May 2003, 07:28 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally posted by 88mph
Street Fighter: Give me rehashes with stupid names, and one new move. I'll still buy them all.
Hell... If they change the animation on Ryu's foward kick and called it Street Fighter III: New Kick Edition I'd still buy it.

same here

as you can see here capcom always gets my money for SF games

give me more SF DAmn it !!!!!!
16 May 2003, 07:42 PM
Roufuss

Sorry Andy, but I guess you missed the Sega news where Shenmue is pretty much done with.

They said if they were to do another one, they would cram all 16 remaining chapters (or however many is left) into one game, and be finished with it. It's dissapointing that they used the word if, implying they aren't even sure if Shenmue 3 will come out.
16 May 2003, 07:43 PM
Adrian

Rez. I'm so up for Unity though :)
16 May 2003, 07:44 PM
Gutsman

KOF
Street Fighter
Phantasy Star
Gradius
R-Type
Contra
Metal Slug

I would not mind if they make a new Metal Slug game every 2 months.
16 May 2003, 07:45 PM
Orta

Rez
Soul Calibur
Samurai Showdown
Panzer Dragoon
Street Fighter
Burning Rangers (does anyone else like this game?!?)

... and some others
16 May 2003, 07:51 PM
sggg

Sonic (2D, 3D, anything)
Jet Set Radio
Klonoa
Wonder Boy
Alex Kidd
Shinobi
Shining Force
Dark Cloud
Lunar
Golden Sun
Metal Slug
Mr Driller
Fantasy Zone

For the sake of simplicity I didn't include games which are not "series" yet.
16 May 2003, 08:09 PM
Gutsman

Let me add Wonderboy and Advance Wars to my list as well.
16 May 2003, 09:09 PM
UndeadKing

Beatmania IIDX - Just add some new songs and I'm set.

Any other "music" game I enjoy - See above

Metal Slug - Keep it 2D and I'm happy

Dynasty Warriors - Just add a character or two, maybe some new moves and environments and I'll be content.

There are likely more but I'm too lazy to list them....
16 May 2003, 09:14 PM
Roufuss

Actually, I am a little sick of them milking Dynasty Warriors, they really need to do something new for DW 5, or else it'll be the same as DW 3 and 4 with minor improvements.
16 May 2003, 09:19 PM
Glass Joe

Soul Reaver- I could never get too much of this series

Tomb Raider- If they were like part 1 instead of how they killed the franchise I could use more of these too.

Mario

Zelda
16 May 2003, 09:46 PM
George Duhbya BS

Gunvalkyrie, even though there's no chance that would ever happen.
16 May 2003, 10:01 PM
Yoshi

Art of Fighting
Bust-A-Move
Castlevania
Contra
Darius
Darkstalkers
Daytona
Devil May Cry
Dino Crisis
Fatal Fury
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fight
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts
Golden Axe
Gradius
Grandia
House of the Dead
King of Fighters
Klonoa
Lunar
Mario
Metal Gear
Metal Slug
Onimusha
Phantasy Star
R-Type
Resident Evil
Salamander
Samurai Shodown
Sega Rally
Sengoku
Shining
Shinobi
Silent Hill
Sonic
Splatterhouse
Star Fox
Street Fighter
Streets of Rage
Suikoden
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
ThunderForce
Vandal Hearts
Virtua Cop
Virtua Fighter

Keep 'em coming.
16 May 2003, 10:04 PM
George Duhbya BS

I also wish Konami would make some more 2D Goonies games for the Gameboy Advance! :D
16 May 2003, 10:08 PM
Yoshi

Worst. Username. Ever.

Straight on ignore you go.
16 May 2003, 10:23 PM
George Duhbya BS

Quote:

originally posted by Yoshi:

Worst. Username. Ever.

Straight on ignore you go.

Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.
16 May 2003, 10:32 PM
Jeremy

Shenmue
Jet Grind/Set Radio
16 May 2003, 10:45 PM
Johnny Undaunted

Re: Franchises you wouldn't mind being milked...

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy
Metal Gear Solid series on PS2: This is one franchise I really wouldn't mind a yearly incarnation of. The production values, direction, music and what not are all just of such high quality that playing through each with the same basic gameplay wouldn't bother me at all. Just take the MGS2 engine, throw it in a new story and environment each time, remix the themes some more, and keep making Snake such a badass (and no Raiden) and I'd be happy.

Isn't that what Konami has been doing since 1998? Sure, it took three years to get to Metal Gear 2 (and that was only in Japan) and eight more years for Metal Gear Solid, but after there hasn't been a year without a Metal Gear game (even if it just a simple port/enhancement over last year's title). Just take a look:

1998: Metal Gear Solid (PS1)
1999: Metal Gear Solid Integral/VR Missions/Special Missions (PS1, PC)
2000: Metal Gear (Solid): Ghost Babel (GBC)
2001: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (PS2)
2002: Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance (PS2, Xbox, PC)
2003: Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (GameCube)
2004: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)

Noticed a pattern there? First we get the new installment (which is exclusive to the current PlayStation console), then the multi-platform enhanced version (Integral, Substance) a year later, followed by some Nintendo exclusive side-game (Ghost Babel, Twin Snakes) and then the next installment. Although the announcement of Metal Gear Online might just break the pattern.

Anyway, aside from what was already mentioned, I want Technos/Atlus to milk the Kunio and Double Dragon franchises as much as possible.
16 May 2003, 10:45 PM
Captain Vegetable

Gun Metal. I really like this game. I don't know why, but I do. It might have something to do with a transforming robot/vehicle, and it might have something to do with the excellent missions and objectives...and it might be all of that and then some, all rolled into one.

Gun Metal (XBOX) gets my vote.
16 May 2003, 10:47 PM
Tain

Quote:

Beatmania IIDX - Just add some new songs and I'm set.

I was going to say this, but come on.

Nine going on ten titles isn't bad, if you ask me. Home ports of these games, on the other hand...
16 May 2003, 10:54 PM
Regus

Quote:

Soul Reaver- I could never get too much of this series

/me nods his head in agreement.

Also, some times, when the moon is full and high in the sky, I weep openly at the the thought that the world will most likely never see another Agressive Inline.
17 May 2003, 12:20 AM
gamevet

Quote:

Originally posted by Orta

Burning Rangers (does anyone else like this game?!?)

No!;)
17 May 2003, 12:21 AM
Captain Vegetable

And I like it too! [/Irish Spring commercial]
17 May 2003, 12:22 AM
gamevet

Soul Calibur could use a little milking.
17 May 2003, 12:45 AM
MVS

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.

:lol:
17 May 2003, 01:02 AM
Gooch

Street Fighter, Guilty Gear, The Last Blade, hell milk these fuckers.
17 May 2003, 01:44 AM
Drewbacca

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.

Following Yoshi's lead, you are now on ignore as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.

Actually, now that I think of it, this asshole comment was kind of cool. I respect assholes.

Also, I would like to add that I don't like it when any series gets whored out, but I could do with a few more Powerstones.
17 May 2003, 02:36 AM
Dyne

ill add another for MGS. another series i can just play regardless of the fact that they add nothing to it is Resident Evil. and Panzer Dragoon. make them RPG or shooter, i dont care. i just love the whole atmosphere.
17 May 2003, 02:43 AM
Frogacuda

Really Westone could crap out a new Wonderboy every couple years with very little innovation, and I'd probably not grow tired of them for a long time. And as much as Namco has been milking the Tales series lately, I'm totally eat it up. I felt this way about the 2D Sonics as well, back when that was an annual franchise, but alas that magic is gone now that dimps has the reigns.
17 May 2003, 02:50 AM
Brisco Bold

Quote:

Originally posted by Andrew
Following Yoshi's lead, you are now on ignore as well.

I know you were joking, but why? He didn't do anything wrong. He reacted to an overreaction.
17 May 2003, 03:08 AM
UndeadKing

Tain,
You can never have enough IIDX in my opinion. Besides, I was refering more towards the console side of the spectrum. I've got no local arcades, so I am stuck with the home ports. With IIDX so far there have only been 4 games on Ps2. I think they could milk it a bit harder. :D Now if only I could actually find 4th Style...grr...
17 May 2003, 05:56 AM
StriderKyo

Quote:

Originally posted by 88mph
Hell... If they change the animation on Ryu's foward kick and called it Street Fighter III: New Kick Edition I'd still buy it.

Haha...admit it, every time Capcom does a market survey you bust into their databse and change all the answers, don't you?

Quote:

Originally posted by opa-opa
KOF

Yes, if only SNK released KoF 2003: Match Of The June-August.

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.

It's a shame you edited that, unless it was to add swear words.
20 May 2003, 11:23 AM
Josh

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

Seriously (maybe I can get this in before he puts me on ignore), are you that sensitive to people's usernames? Stupid usernames on forums are like dandelions on a neglected lawn; they're everywhere and they're No. Big. Deal.

Lighten the fuck up, Mr. Young Republican.

http://www.boomspeed.com/jnyace13/stfunewbie.jpg
20 May 2003, 11:34 PM
Mfkzt

Quote:

Originally posted by George Duhbya BS
Let me test that for you:

Fuck off. What's the matter, is your acne medication making you extra sensitive today?

I think he ran out of Monistat.
21 May 2003, 01:32 AM
Tracer

Panzer Dragoon. They can milk it for all it's worth and I wouldn't mind... a few RPGs here, some shooters there... whatever the decide to do with it besides a Panzer Dragoon party game and Panzer Dragoon Kart Racing I'll be dandy with it (Panzer Dragoon Xtreme beach Volleyball though? errm...) so yeah - Panzer Dragoon could be pretty much driven into the ground and I wouldn't mind. JSR too.
21 May 2003, 12:18 PM
Josh

Quote:

Originally posted by StriderKyo
Haha...admit it, every time Capcom does a market survey you bust into their databse and change all the answers, don't you?

:evil:
21 May 2003, 01:38 PM
680x0

I could use some more Lode Runners... shit for that matter the whole fucking commodore library should be released on the GBA with updated graphics.