I can understand backlash, but not against DKC

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If all prerendered games controlled like shit and the only interactive parts in prerendered BG's are polygons, what's wrong with thinking there's a problem there?

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:wtf: Polygons? In DKC or KI? Where?

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You said it was responsive but there's a lot more to control then just being responsive IMO. It has to be smooth/fluid a well.

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You're confusing control with play mechanics. The controls in KI were fine, but the game is broken. There's a difference.

Oh, and Mischief Makers controls beautifully.

[edit] For the record, I find prerendered graphics ugly as sin 9 out of 10 times. Mischief Makers avoided quite a bit of that by using a rag-doll animation scheme, but it still would've looked better hand-drawn. Unlike certain 32-bit RPGs, which looked hideous when they came out, and look even more hideous today.

Nicely done Magnified Plaid! I think people sometimes like to alienate people, who are'nt as holy as thou and get arrogant and ugly to those who don't share their opinions. Name calling is childish and a very uncool way to handle a situation. It makes that person look like the bigger idiot.

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Originally posted by MechDeus
Oh, and Mischief Makers controls beautifully.

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Mischief Makers is a beautiful game all around! It gets my award for the best Nintendo 64 game that I never bought. I still need to pick up a copy of this game.

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[edit] For the record, I find prerendered graphics ugly as sin 9 out of 10 times. Mischief Makers avoided quite a bit of that by using a rag-doll animation scheme, but it still would've looked better hand-drawn. Unlike certain 32-bit RPGs, which looked hideous when they came out, and look even more hideous today.

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Shining Wisdom's rendered graphics are a site to behold. Too bad the game was'nt quite as impressive.

Mech, I think he's referring to the polygons used in the backgrounds in KI Gold.

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Originally posted by gamevet
Shining Wisdom's rendered graphics are a site to behold. Too bad the game was'nt quite as impressive.

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Shining Wisdom... I'm not sure if I've seen that or not. I know I haven't played it, but I think I might've seen it in action once. If it's the game I'm thinking of, I thought the characters looked horrible at the time.

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Mech, I think he's referring to the polygons used in the backgrounds in KI Gold.

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Ah, I've never touched that version. I have KI2 on my PC for kicks, but I think the only polygons it has are the side walls (which can be broken). Actually, I'm not sure if those are polygonal, and I don't care enough to check right now.

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Originally posted by MechDeus
Shining Wisdom... I'm not sure if I've seen that or not. I know I haven't played it, but I think I might've seen it in action once. If it's the game I'm thinking of, I thought the characters looked horrible at the time.

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It's an overhead action RPG which tries to mimmick Zelda, but come up short on story. Perhaps you're thinking of Shining: The Holy Ark. While it is an exceptional RPG, it's rendered sprites were jagged and the colors did'nt fare so well.

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Originally posted by gamevet
It's an overhead action RPG which tries to mimmick Zelda, but come up short on story. Perhaps you're thinking of Shining: The Holy Ark. While it is an exceptional RPG, it's rendered sprites were jagged and the colors did'nt fare so well.

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Yeah, it's the latter. I thought it was a Shining game but it certainly wasn't an action RPG. In that case, I don't think I've ever seen Shining Wisdom, I'll look for screens later.

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Mech, I think he's referring to the polygons used in the backgrounds in KI Gold.

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I'm actually talking about the prerendered BG's in FF7 and RE. The only interactive parts are polygons. This was one of the main complaints about CG backgrounds because they look pretty but do not work well with games that require a lot of interaction with the BG's and a lot of camera movement.

"If all prerendered games controlled like shit and the ONLY INTERACTIVE PARTS IN PRERENDERED BG's ARE POLYGONS, what's wrong with thinking there's a problem there?"

I thought that was written pretty clear. There's no such game that has interactive CG BG's. Even Myst uses polygons for all the interactive segments.

Eh, whatever.