I can understand backlash, but not against DKC

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Originally posted by Nash
that's what i think is ironic. in balancing it, they broke it. since if two good players are playing, there would be no need for the long combo system. but this is a circular and paradoxical argument.

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you can have long combos in SSFIIT does it means you have to no
its one of the many aspects of the game

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no, it's just in killer instinct where you leave yourself open for counters with long combos. in most other fighting games, once combos connect, they cannot be broken. it's only when combos are blocked that they can be broken (i.e. - alpha counters in street fighter alpha or capcom's vs. series)

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well when your doing a long combo theres a greater chance of screw up, and if you screw up you leave your self open for a counter

and i see nothing wrong with being able to stop a combo it added something new to the Genre something the KoF series hasnt done in a long time

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well, jago and orchid are fast, but only compared to other characters in the game. overall, though, the game felt slower and more sluggish than street fighter and king of fighters.

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I havent played the arcade one in ages but the game didnt feel slower or more sluggish to me at all and back in the days i would go from playing that to Xmen Vs SF pretty much all day long and i had no problems with the control or speed of KI

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Originally posted by Shin Johnpv
you can have long combos in SSFIIT does it means you have to no
its one of the many aspects of the game

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but that's the thing --- you can have long combos in super street fighter 2: turbo and you don't have to do them, but if you were to do them, the other player won't be penalized (that is if you pull them off correctly).

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well when your doing a long combo theres a greater chance of screw up, and if you screw up you leave your self open for a counter

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that's another thing --- in other fighting games, you're only open to a counter attack if you fuck up the combo yourself. in killer instinct, you can perform it perfectly and still have it countered.

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and i see nothing wrong with being able to stop a combo it added something new to the Genre something the KoF series hasnt done in a long time

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well, i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it --- maybe if they implemented it a little better (how? i don't know).

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Originally posted by Nash
but that's the thing --- you can have long combos in super street fighter 2: turbo and you don't have to do them, but if you were to do them, the other player won't be penalized (that is if you pull them off correctly).



that's another thing --- in other fighting games, you're only open to a counter attack if you fuck up the combo yourself. in killer instinct, you can perform it perfectly and still have it countered.



well, i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it --- maybe if they implemented it a little better (how? i don't know).

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Well i guess KI is more realistic of a fighting game
in the sense that in a fight something your doing can be countered at any time even if your doing it perfectly

all though i do think it adds to the Balance for the Player too
otherwise you could get caught in long combos from the Comp


Personally i liked the back and forth of the game my friends and i would go back and forth alot with combos and combo breakers and i had a shit load of fun
and it was always a blast to utterly destroy some one who walked up to the cab and couldnt pull off combo breakers heheheh


obviously everything implimented in the game was done perfectly but it also never had a Super Killer Insticnt II Turbo Revial X edition
unlike SFII which had 5 versions of it to perfect its gameplay mechanics KI sadly only had KI and KI II



Personally I loved both games, i have the home versions but theyre not as good as the arcade revs and as soon as the Emulation for them gets better ill be playing KI II on my PC probably almost as much as i play the SF games on my home consoles and PC

I quite enjoyed the games and i found the controls fine for them

See you're just saying it doesn't suck with the which it doesn't statement. It doesn't matter if the moves are like SF2 inputs, the control is sluggish version of SF2.Happy. The combo's were not hard if you remember what button came after the other, the input time was pretty damn laxed unlike say a super combo in any SF game that gave you special bars. There's not much defensive play going on except for WOOHOO. A combo breaker! Sure you can block and jump but you didn't really have to. Just gor the combo and if he doesn't break it, you basically win. Which leads to the only defense in the game, practicing combo breakers. It's seriously a worse setup than DOA's fast moves and counter only.

Hey if you thought every prerendered game was sluggish as hell you would probably think that something is wrong with the control too. I gave the reason why I thought it was the case and I said I was wrong. If that's your trump card you have against me, than you are dumber than I thought.

How stupid are oyu. I said it controls sluggish like MK and Pit Fighter. I didn't say they shared the same play mechanics like you keep on bringing up. If it's sluggish than it belongs with MK and Pit Fighter. Whether the game has SF2 inputs or MK tap tap inputs.

About your stupid comment about can you escape infinite combo in SF2. Well, you don't need to. There are no ridiculous combo's in any other game except Tekken, vs. series, and KI. Alpha counters take super bars, otherwise it would be cheap as hell. That's also why it's not the only line of defense. If it was free then I would just keep using them and win the match easily. I can beat people in SF2 with just a simple three hit combo, some uppercuts, a couple low round houses, and a couple of jump kicks to the head. No ridiculous combo needed or a combo breaker. Which is basically all you need in KI. :)

The only thing you're claiming is that the combo system is good and the game takes skill. I'm saying it doesn't.

Captain Canuck, can you maybe rephrase your first statement so it makes sense? Also, "How stupid are oyu." is sheer brilliance.

I can kick your ass in KI with out using any long combos

KI doesnt require the combos either but theyre there and they add to the game

id rather have combos and combo breakers than Strikers thats for damn sure

im sorry but i dont feel its anything like Pit Fighter or MK and ive played quite a bit of mortal kombat in my day too


"There are no ridiculous combo's in any other game except Tekken, vs. series, and KI."


sounds like youve never seen any Combo videos then

from games ranging from the GG series to SFII to Groove on Fight to many many others

many games have huge combos hell there were some big combos posted in a SFIII video not that long ago

Ok brilliant man. If you can't read message board, icq, MSN sloppy typing, then you need some help.

The first statement is saying that all he said was that KI doesn't suck. The same why he was claiming all I was saying was that KI sucks. He made this statement that said "Which it doesn't!"

Here, let me get the quote for you.

"youve said nothing but it sucks and controls like MK and Pit Fighter

WHICH IT DOESNT!"

Is that clear enough for you?

Also, if you can't figure out the "how stupid are oyu." is just a mis-type for how stupid are you, then you are really STUPID.

Oh yeah, I mean how on Earth could this "See you're just saying it doesn't suck with the which it doesn't statement" EVER be confusing...

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Also, if you can't figure out the "how stupid are oyu." is just a mis-type for how stupid are you, then you are really STUPID.

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You don't get it.

John> Stop defending that peice of shit game Killer Instinct, we all know Mortal Kombat is better, hell, PRIMAL RAGE is even better than KI!!!

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Originally posted by Shin Johnpv
I can kick your ass in KI with out using any long combos

KI doesnt require the combos either but theyre there and they add to the game

id rather have combos and combo breakers than Strikers thats for damn sure

im sorry but i dont feel its anything like Pit Fighter or MK and ive played quite a bit of mortal kombat in my day too


"There are no ridiculous combo's in any other game except Tekken, vs. series, and KI."


sounds like youve never seen any Combo videos then

from games ranging from the GG series to SFII to Groove on Fight to many many others

many games have huge combos hell there were some big combos posted in a SFIII video not that long ago

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Why would I watch combo videos when I don't need long combos to beat anyone? Besides, I don't know about you but I have never seen combo's that complex in tournaments or play experience. Most combo videos show combos that are pretty pointless and totally impractical in real play. In KI they have combos that look impractical but are very practical. They're just A LOT easier to pull off in certain games.