I love it when people try to take freedom too far.:rolleyes:
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I love it when people try to take freedom too far.:rolleyes:
The only cases that get litigated are the ones where rights are clashing with rights, so your test does no work. The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religion, so rights associated with that free exercise are given a relatively higher priority. Religion is not simply in the eye of the beholder, though - a belief has to meet certain qualifications to be held religious and entitled to protection. Personal worldview beliefs and even atheist beliefs generally do not meet that standard.Quote:
Originally posted by LordPerrin
Wrong. You apply the same basic litmus test as any other protected right: your rights end where they start interfering with someone else's. This prevents ludicrous abuses such as your 'Burgandism' and this woman's idiocy, while at the same time protecting views outside some judge's narrow-minded idea of 'mainstream religion'.
:lol: That last bit is gold. I'd go as far as saying that this is sig worthy.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
"Hello, Miss DMV employee. I would like to apply for a driver's license. However, I am a believer in Assbackwardsism. Thus, all pictures that are taken of me must really be of my next door neighbor. It is quite clearly spelled out in our holy book, The Moron. If you fail to observe my religious beliefs by taking old Bill's picture, I will be forced to commence legal action. Afterall, the only custom I am willing to follow while I am in America is filing frivolous lawsuits."
Hehe - I think I'll add that to my inventory.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
"It is quite clearly spelled out in our holy book, The Moron."
As for this case, I hope it just gets thrown out and she pays for every damn penny she's cost the taxpayer and then some. Nice to see the ACLU acting like it cares about religious freedoms in reaction to it. Sucks they can gain some further legitimacy by using shit like this.
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Originally posted by NightWolve
Nice to see the ACLU acting like it cares about religious freedoms in reaction to it. Sucks they can gain some further legitimacy by using shit like this.
I don't see the ACLU gaining any legitimacy by backing this case. That said, although this case is ridiculous, I'd rather see some ridiculous cases get dismissed than see the conservative establishment go unchecked. Freedom isn't cheap.
Further legitimacy would require a foundation of legitimacy on which to build. The ACLU is in its very title is a farce. The American Civil Liberties Union should treat every single person the exact same way. It is what they preach, but it is not what they do. If you're not a handicapable, Puerto Rican lesbian, good luck getting support for them. They cater to the lowest common denominator of society, because no self respecting minority would ever associate himself with that circus.Quote:
Originally posted by NightWolve Nice to see the ACLU acting like it cares about religious freedoms in reaction to it. Sucks they can gain some further legitimacy by using shit like this.
Well, she lost. Judge ruled that she should shut the fuck up and take the veil off for a pic in a private room with a female photographer.
So what civil liberties are being deprived of a healthy white heterosexual male as opposed to a handicapped Puerto Rican lesbian?Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
Further legitimacy would require a foundation of legitimacy on which to build. The ACLU is in its very title is a farce. The American Civil Liberties Union should treat every single person the exact same way. It is what they preach, but it is not what they do. If you're not a handicapable, Puerto Rican lesbian, good luck getting support for them. They cater to the lowest common denominator of society, because no self respecting minority would ever associate himself with that circus.
I think the ACLU lost almost all of its legitimacy when they decided to support NAMBLA. That said, I think something like the ACLU is absolutely necessary, and if they didnt support NAMBLA, I would have joined the organization without hesitation.Quote:
Originally posted by burgundy
I don't see the ACLU gaining any legitimacy by backing this case. That said, although this case is ridiculous, I'd rather see some ridiculous cases get dismissed than see the conservative establishment go unchecked. Freedom isn't cheap.
Nail on head. The biggest error that Yoshi is making (I have him on ignore but I can read his post) is that the LCD is indeed what needs the most help, because they will get trampled upon by everybody else. Such is capitalism. The handicapped PR lesbian needs more help because she has a greater chance of getting taken advantage of than Whitey.Quote:
Originally posted by Ichabod
So what civil liberties are being deprived of a healthy white heterosexual male as opposed to a handicapped Puerto Rican lesbian?