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I have not played this in a while (read: a month or so), so could someone give me a heads up on where the Cold Caves are again?Quote:
Originally posted by Quinn Fox
Suggestions.....
1. For those of you willing and wanting to do some serious challenging and find some rare ancients, hang around in the Cold Caves. The enemies continue to regenerate, and they're not just little goblins; the medusas that freeze you in place keep coming and coming, huge golems, monstrous demons, mithril golems....it's not an easy task, but if you keep pressing, you'll eventually get strong enough to knock most of them out in one hit. And there are a select few items (treasures are random) that will make you smile.
2. Increase your busters. It may seem futile, but trust me. When you place about 30 or more on Wing Buster (enemies with wings) Weapon Buster (enemies with weapons), Armor Buster, Horn Buster, Scale Buster, etc. These increase your damage drastically. The only buster I never worked on was the Elf Buster, but I'm so powerful now, that three or four slices to a Mithril Golem will kill it. Again, the Cold Caves. If I'm naming Busters that some of you haven't seen, that's most likely where they are. Be sure to also increase you Golem Buster. I got it to about 50, and that's all I needed, as Golems were suddenly absolutely no match at all, even the largest ones. Also, find the Elemental Buster. Hell, find ALL Busters. They've made the biggest difference for me in the game.
3. Get all 30 medallions. I won't spoil it and tell you exactly what happens when you do, but IF you do, you eventually get all of the dungeons connected with transporters (niiiice) and you find some incredible weapons and ancients. Also, doing this will allow you to learn the last magic form, Black Magic.
4. Get all four pieces of Narse's Gothic Dragon Armor. Again, if haven't done this, I won't tell you what happens......but just do it. :) It may seem to take forever, but there are only four, and while tough, they're far from impossible. (Besides, one thing you end up getting is the Dragon Buster, an invaluable ancient.)
5. Work on your Prevent Ancients. They're enormously expensive to upgrade after certain points, but it's that way for a reason. I'm at the point now where I prevent about 50% of all damage inflicted, and that is awfully, awfully helpful.
By the time I was finally ready to tackle Kardis, I had all of the Dragon Armor, all 30 medallions, and a main character (named 'Quinn', surprise) who was nearly invincible. Durability over 1000, Damage at almost 1500, armor at 1200, parrying at 800 (parrying is as important as durability), and a series of swords and items that were simply vicious. I finished it off with a Haruking Sword, occasionally switching between that and the Dragon Killer, a Gothic Bull helmet and plate mail, Gothic Eagle shield (amazing parrying), and a good assortment of boots and jewelry. One invincibility potion (only found one all game and saved it, but never really needed it until I got all 30 medal----oops, nevermind) was never as good as my healing potions and roughly 15,700 hit points.
I bet you're thinking, "Too little Mithril......." If so.......
Lastly, if there's ANY reason to go to the Cold Caves, it's for the Mithril. The place (incredibly huge, by the way) is absolutely full of Mithril that keeps coming back every short while. Add to that the fact that you find perhaps the most important ancient in the game within.......
Revive to Mithril
All enemies drop Mithril according to their strength.
Yes, you read this right. Can you say, 'unlimited Mithril?' I could never complain about Mithril any longer....again, EVERY enemy, including bosses, will drop Mithril. Going from 1000 to 100,000 Mithril in about 30 minutes of enemy mauling is priceless.
I may have discovered all the same things that everyone else has, but just in case, I mention it all anyway. I'd be happy to answer any questions as I suddenly consider myself an expert at the game!
Karrrddiiiss! ^_^
~Quinn
P.S. Was ANYone able to keep Ashram alive? What a weak character, no matter what I did, he always ended up dying eventually.
Revive to Mithril *drool*
Is there a rune/item that prevents petrification? I can cruise through the cold caves for the most part, but if I run into two medusas at once I'm screwed, since they can turn you to stone faster than you can recover, and the only way I can get out of it is a refresh potion (which are tough to find) or burning an immortal potion.Quote:
Originally posted by Quinn Fox
Suggestions.....
1. For those of you willing and wanting to do some serious challenging and find some rare ancients, hang around in the Cold Caves. The enemies continue to regenerate, and they're not just little goblins; the medusas that freeze you in place keep coming and coming, huge golems, monstrous demons, mithril golems....it's not an easy task, but if you keep pressing, you'll eventually get strong enough to knock most of them out in one hit. And there are a select few items (treasures are random) that will make you smile.
Yeah, it took me a while to get around to engraving prevent, but they make you pretty much invulnerable to all kinds of attacks. But they are ridiculous in their mithril drain - I'm glad the Cold Caves are there, otherwise you'd never get all the prevent, durability and critical damage runes engraved.Quote:
5. Work on your Prevent Ancients. They're enormously expensive to upgrade after certain points, but it's that way for a reason. I'm at the point now where I prevent about 50% of all damage inflicted, and that is awfully, awfully helpful.
I'm coming around to the Dragon Sword - the insane crits the Oriental sword gets are pretty pointless after a while, since most enemies can still be killed in one hit by a one-handed weapon, and the only enemies you'd actually need all that extra damage against are immune to criticals. And when you fight those guys you need all the defence you can get - too bad I've been neglecting my shield the whole game...
I had no problems keeping him alive - I just kept slapping the potion button every time I saw the word "danger" over his head. He leaves anyway, right after the Wagnard fight (uh, unless there's another part with him later on).Quote:
P.S. Was ANYone able to keep Ashram alive? What a weak character, no matter what I did, he always ended up dying eventually.
BTW - I'm kinda slow...I only just noticed there's a much longer (and better) cg intro after the title screen, if you just let it sit for a while. Bonus.
I never found any ancients that totally prevented petrification, but there are some helpful items. tTe best one is the Immune Stone, or something like that.....it's a necklace that SERIOUSLY decreases the petrification time. There are also armor pieces (the Gothic Lilly set) that shorten the duration, as well as the Stone Ring. But once you have, say, a Gothic Lilly Helmet and or Shield, the petrification from two medusas doesn't mean instant death anymore.Quote:
Is there a rune/item that prevents petrification? I can cruise through the cold caves for the most part, but if I run into two medusas at once I'm screwed, since they can turn you to stone faster than you can recover, and the only way I can get out of it is a refresh potion (which are tough to find) or burning an immortal potion.
Hey, WTFer, Black Dragon?! I beat all of those little bosses in the Cold Caves, but those pillars and walls blocking off certain parts of the map never went away. What IS the deal with this 'You must endure the 500 tortures, the 700 tortures' messages I keep seeing? Again, I wasted the Cold Caves, and covered every inch of each level of them, taking care of all the Mithril Golems and such, getting the success jingle, but I never found a black dragon. Help?? Man, it can't be much worse than the GREEN Dragon can it? :::gulp:::Quote:
the Caves they are optional as you can skip them & go to the teleport to the next section if you want there's 3 floors of the cold caves, you only need the 1st since the rest only led to the super insane ultra fucking hard black dragon!
As it is, this game has been catupulted (sic?) into my top ten DC favorites. Incredibly fun, and totally memorable. You can tell that some serious time went into it.
Keep the thread alive,
~Quinn
I've got the Immune Stone and a Stone Ring +1, which can see me through 2 medusas, but as soon as a third or fourth one shows up, it's lights out. I haven't found any of the Lily set, do you remember off hand where you get them? And where's this mithril rune you speak of? Is it on the 6th floor of the caves? I can't seem to find it...
I was only able to find Gothic Lilly armor when they were dropped by those medusa whores. I would always go after them first, and eventually they dropped one helmet and one shield. Treasure chests never yielded them.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
I've got the Immune Stone and a Stone Ring +1, which can see me through 2 medusas, but as soon as a third or fourth one shows up, it's lights out. I haven't found any of the Lily set, do you remember off hand where you get them? And where's this mithril rune you speak of? Is it on the 6th floor of the caves? I can't seem to find it...
As for 'Revive to Mithril', I can't remember exactly where I found it, but if it's not in any of the 30 dungeons or Dragon Armor dungeons, it's gotta be somewhere in the cold caves. If memory serves me right, it's in the top level of the cold caves, not far from where you tackle the giant Mithril Golem. I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive it's in the Cold Caves.
I was only able to find Gothic Lilly armor when they were dropped by those medusa whores. I would always go after them first, and eventually they dropped one helmet and one shield. Treasure chests never yielded them.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
I've got the Immune Stone and a Stone Ring +1, which can see me through 2 medusas, but as soon as a third or fourth one shows up, it's lights out. I haven't found any of the Lily set, do you remember off hand where you get them? And where's this mithril rune you speak of? Is it on the 6th floor of the caves? I can't seem to find it...
As for 'Revive to Mithril', I can't remember exactly where I found it, but if it's not in any of the 30 dungeons or Dragon Armor dungeons, it's gotta be somewhere in the cold caves. If memory serves me right, it's in the top level of the cold caves, not far from where you tackle the giant Mithril Golem. I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive it's in the Cold Caves.
~Quinn
Figures, five minutes after posting this I find the Lilly armor in a chest. Makes the Medusas survivable, but the lower Arm and Dur really sucks. Oh well. I also found the bull armor, which paired with the firmness rune gave me 1200 Dur and made the Marfa shield thing a cake walk...not that I have any use for it now...Quote:
Originally posted by Quinn Fox
I was only able to find Gothic Lilly armor when they were dropped by those medusa whores. I would always go after them first, and eventually they dropped one helmet and one shield. Treasure chests never yielded them.
I've gone through the caves, but I haven't found it yet. I'll just keep killing things and hope it shows up.Quote:
As for 'Revive to Mithril', I can't remember exactly where I found it, but if it's not in any of the 30 dungeons or Dragon Armor dungeons, it's gotta be somewhere in the cold caves. If memory serves me right, it's in the top level of the cold caves, not far from where you tackle the giant Mithril Golem. I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive it's in the Cold Caves.
~Quinn
*bump*
I'd hate to sound lame, but where are the Cold Caves again? I'm too lazy to hunt through GameFAQs or go running around in the game for it.
The last dungeon in the game, called the Dark Castle or something, has ten levels going down. At the fifth level, there's a different entryway that leads upward again. Those upper levels are the Cold Caves.Quote:
Originally posted by Hero
*bump*
I'd hate to sound lame, but where are the Cold Caves again? I'm too lazy to hunt through GameFAQs or go running around in the game for it.
Have fun,
~Quinn