Heh... wouldn't mind visting Alberta... if anything it's a cleaner Texas with good weather which would be nice for me to see once.
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Heh... wouldn't mind visting Alberta... if anything it's a cleaner Texas with good weather which would be nice for me to see once.
Cleaner, maybe. Can't vouch for this supposed good weather though.
Come to Houston. It can't be worse... good weather might be a stretch but better is assured.
Hah! Just spotted this thread now, right as I'm packing up to leave Canada once more (I've sold out and become part of the "brain drain"). Funny how it took less than two pages for it to turn into a Toronto-bashing thread, eh?
I grew up in Toronto, but I can't say I'm terribly fond of it. Something about the uninspired architecture and lousy weather, probably. But, in many ways, it can't be beat. You really can buy anything here if you look hard enough, and we've got the best assortment of really good cheap restaurants I've ever seen. It's a great place to be if you're into music, film, or sports. The transit system is awesome, even though the locals bitch about it all the time. Crime is very low as far as big cities go. And who was making those garbage comments? Toronto's pretty damn clean compared to every other city I've been too (Chinatown doesn't count of course).
Girls? Toronto has some pretty ones, but they're nothing compared with what you get in smaller towns like Kingston or London. I figure the pollution, stress, and hair dye is bad for their health. Of course, Ireland has the highest percentage of hot girls per capita, and nowhere in Canada can even hope to compete.
Montreal seems nice, and I like it a lot even though it has too many strip joints. If I had to choose, I'd probably live in Montreal because it gets real winters instead of Toronto's weak +1 celsius slushfest.
Useless fact of the day:Quote:
Originally posted by sggg
Right on Brisco. Icepop, give him some icepop points (I hear they're redeemable for maple syrup and pogs).
Pogs really come from Hawaii, not Canada. The Haleakala Dairy company on Maui makes this juice called Passion-Orange-Guava (POG for short). Some years back, they ran a promotion where you collected the cap inserts from the bottles, which became popular enough to turn into the Pog fad we're all familiar with. That hairy Pog mascot guy was originally the mascot for the juice, and he's still featured on the packaging.
POG juice tastes pretty good, in case you were wondering.
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Actually the food at Zeldas was pretty awful. From what I remember I ordered the Chicken Parm, and the chicken was over-cooked and the pasta smelled like vomit (literally). I was so damn hungry I ate it anyways, but needless to say I won't be making a return visit the next time I'm in Toronto (regardless of the area it's in).Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
I eat in that neighbourhood all the time. I have a friend who lives near there, and the restaurants are awesome. There's nothing weird about it- there's tons of straight people coming through there since it's only 2 blocks away from the main downtown street. It's not some forbidden zone or anything.
Heh, I never eat there. There's a way better place next door.Quote:
Originally posted by K3V
Actually the food at Zeldas was pretty awful. From what I remember I ordered the Chicken Parm, and the chicken was over-cooked and the pasta smelled like vomit (literally). I was so damn hungry I ate it anyways, but needless to say I won't be making a return visit the next time I'm in Toronto (regardless of the area it's in).
:lol: at Arjue.
I'm trying to picture a Canadian Redneck... its totally not working.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
Rednecks
You don't have to try very hard. Visit Oshawa (Ontario).
Get my band a show in that area and I will. :)
Have fun. You can visit Sarnia and Sudbury while you're there.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Get my band a show in that area and I will. :)
Oh .... and Mississauga. :p
I probably could...Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
Get my band a show in that area and I will. :)
Well... if your serious about doing it PM me or email 88mph@comcast.net
We'll talk.
P.S. This goes for anyone (in North America) reading this.
If you can get my band a show we will play it.
Well, let me see: I'll have to talk to one of my buddies, but no guarantees. What exactly do you play?
You can do a Canadian tour. And drink some good beer. :p
www.88mph.orgQuote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
Well, let me see: I'll have to talk to one of my buddies, but no guarantees. What exactly do you play?
Why doesn't Chinatown count? Chinatown in Montréal doesn't smell bad. Chinatown in New York doesn't smell bad... and that's New York! Spadina Avenue is the stinkiest place on Earth. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Matt
And who was making those garbage comments? Toronto's pretty damn clean compared to every other city I've been too (Chinatown doesn't count of course).
This is one of the best and most informative posts ever. I salute your pog knowledge. ;)Quote:
Pogs really come from Hawaii, not Canada. The Haleakala Dairy company on Maui makes this juice called Passion-Orange-Guava (POG for short). Some years back, they ran a promotion where you collected the cap inserts from the bottles, which became popular enough to turn into the Pog fad we're all familiar with. That hairy Pog mascot guy was originally the mascot for the juice, and he's still featured on the packaging.
POG juice tastes pretty good, in case you were wondering.
I thought POG was based on the old milk bottle cap game?
So whats in between... Vancouver and Montreal.. howcome no one talks about the middle part of Canada.. I bet Edmonton, and all them get mad... come on they have the largest mall in the world..
:lol: Thanks for not mentioning my city! We may be backwater, but we're certainly not redneck central.Quote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
You don't have to try very hard. Visit Oshawa (Ontario).
Cool. North Bay, eh? My family has a cottage in Georgian Bay. :DQuote:
Originally posted by cka
:lol: Thanks for not mentioning my city! We may be backwater, but we're certainly not redneck central.
Gayer words have never been spoken! ;) (don't misconstrue that wink now!)Quote:
Originally posted by K3V
But, but...we were just killing time and wanted something quick to eat before the show...ummm...yeah.
*phew* I think I pulled that one off.
* K3V runs
Not Toronto, the world. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Wow, and doesn't that just say it all about why the attitude of people in Toronto sucks?
Striker: Grownups drink wine for taste with their meal, not guzzling down some Canadian to wash it down.
Futureshop.ca - DVD Trailer Park Boys.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
I'm trying to picture a Canadian Redneck... its totally not working.
Well, if you stopped watching fucking CNN and American TV down there in the cultural wasteland of Canada, maybe you'd realise that's not true at all.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Not Toronto, the world. ;)
Take some advice from Brisco on how to respect the French Canadians ... his head may be on fire and he may have no balls but he's a pretty cool Canadian.
Um, "grownups" drink whatever the hell they feel like. That's why they're fucking "grownups". Oh and they don't refer to each other as "grownups" either. :pQuote:
Striker: Grownups drink wine for taste with their meal, not guzzling down some Canadian to wash it down.
:lol: Whoah, this one breathes fire!Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Well, if you stopped watching fucking CNN and American TV down there in the cultural wasteland of Canada, maybe you'd realise that's not true at all.
Take some advice from Brisco on how to respect the French Canadians ... his head may be on fire and he may have no balls but he's a pretty cool Canadian.
Um, "grownups" drink whatever the hell they feel like. That's why they're fucking "grownups". Oh and they don't refer to each other as "grownups" either. :p
:lol:Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
:lol: Whoah, this one breathes fire!
I'm feisty today. :p
Paid gigs, I suppose, huh? Hmm...Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
P.S. This goes for anyone (in North America) reading this.
If you can get my band a show we will play it.
Maybe this will help ...Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
I'm trying to picture a Canadian Redneck... its totally not working.
http://www.redgreen.com/Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
I'm trying to picture a Canadian Redneck... its totally not working.
As for "Boystown" (Church Street), do I have a story about that place...
In a hilarious mess of planning, an anime convention had a discount deal with a hotel in the middle of boystown... right during the Gay Pride weekend. Some friends of mine stayed there, and were scarred for life. (They literally got dragged into spontaneous parade one night, and refused to leave their room after that.)
But honestly, that stuff doesn't bother me.
Last time I checked, America was a part of the world. Don't get too pissy though, I was only kidding around.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Well, if you stopped watching fucking CNN and American TV down there in the cultural wasteland of Canada, maybe you'd realise that's not true at all.
Take some advice from Brisco on how to respect the French Canadians ... his head may be on fire and he may have no balls but he's a pretty cool Canadian.
Um, "grownups" drink whatever the hell they feel like. That's why they're fucking "grownups". Oh and they don't refer to each other as "grownups" either. :p
Anybody drinks whatever the hell they want, what's your point? Mine was that there are better tasting things than beer, that mature people (aka grownups) do drink, like wine. Most beer doesn't taste palitable. If you're talking wings, chips, pretzels and pizza, then absolutely, but that's not exactly grownup food since kids are known to eat a ton of it too. I suppose there is no standard, but wine does taste better than beer. Do I drink wine? No. Do I drink beer? Yes. Am I a 'grownup'.... according to the law I am. But I'm still young.
:lol:Quote:
I almost posted that too!!!
A small part... and the rest of the world does not feel the same way about "The French". So, when you said "the world" you were wrong. You meant the US - which Icepop astutely called you on.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Last time I checked, America was a part of the world.
The US + Southern Ontario & Alberta =/= The World. :rolleyes:
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Well, the English like to take the piss out of the French too... but that's usually just normal pisstaking like the US/Canada rivalry shit - not racist xenophobic bullshit.
I also forgot about Red Green. Sometimes that show is funny. The best segment is when he makes things.
Fuck that, I meant none of it. The French have been the worlds running joke ever since WW2, and that's what I was referring to.Quote:
Originally posted by sggg
A small part... and the rest of the world does not feel the same way about "The French". So, when you said "the world" you were wrong. You meant the US - which Icepop astutely called you on.
The US + Southern Ontario & Alberta =/= The World. :rolleyes:
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Well, the English like to take the piss out of the French too... but that's usually just normal pisstaking like the US/Canada rivalry shit - not racist xenophobic bullshit.
Mexico, Australia, Canada, U.S.A., and England all poke fun of the French, with the french returning the favor. It's not like it's uncommon for cultures to joke at one another about their pitfalls (see the post above about American hicks), so I don't know why you're acting like nobody does it except America, Toronto and Alberta, no less.
Since you can tell me what I mean, I can therefore say your post meant that you enjoy a cold refreshing glass of moose marmalade.
Yes, it is, but the name and marketing concept comes from the POG juice caps. Obviously, people used to play the game long before the fad started - Haleakala Dairy was the first to capitalize on it (and name it after their juice flavour of course).Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
I thought POG was based on the old milk bottle cap game?
If you ever have the chance to go to Hawaii, POG juice is well worth drinking! There are also knockoff versions of pog called "pass-O-guava" other similar names that are cheaper and easier to get but still taste good.
I really don't get the whole racism towards the french, or why its acceptable. I can understand why the English do it, as stated above, its a rivalry thing they've got, like Canada and USA, or Australia and New Zealand. But why the fuck can Americans go spouting racist shit about them?
EDIT: And we don't make fun of the french (though I'm sure a few of us do).
I actually KNOW people like Red Green. My uncle lives in an area like that.
:lol: I've seen people like that around Parry Sound or even just generally on the drive from Montréal to Parry Sound. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Kenshin
I actually KNOW people like Red Green. My uncle lives in an area like that.
It's just an old rib from war time because the french surrendered. So then the allies bailed them out, so it's almost like an immature schoolyard prank, I suppose. Some Australians I know do it too. (I only know about 30 though, and I doubt that's the countries population.)Quote:
Originally posted by arjue
I really don't get the whole racism towards the french, or why its acceptable. I can understand why the English do it, as stated above, its a rivalry thing they've got, like Canada and USA, or Australia and New Zealand. But why the fuck can Americans go spouting racist shit about them?
It's nothing serious like we want them all killed or something like that, and I don't just go around insulting french people for no reason.
Smith Falls and Stanleyville are like Red green. There's a guy who has an 'antique' shop too. It's just a bunch of fucking junk though. I'm sure if you are a carpenter you'd be in heaven. There's a lot of old work in his shop.
Well, Toronto is between Vc and Montreal, for one :D:D:D. There's also Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Regina (which doesn't count as much of a city, but it's the biggest town in Saskatchewan). The West is made up largely of farmland, with a relatively small population compared to the rest of the country. Statistically, there's just not enough people to raise a serious voice on forums like this one. Kind of like, if you have a discussion about various parts of the US, you won't have a whole lot of people shouting about South Dakota or Delaware.Quote:
Originally posted by maruchan
So whats in between... Vancouver and Montreal.. howcome no one talks about the middle part of Canada.. I bet Edmonton, and all them get mad... come on they have the largest mall in the world..
Yeah, parry sound sounds like just about the right area to find Red Green-esque characters.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
:lol: I've seen people like that around Parry Sound or even just generally on the drive from Montréal to Parry Sound. :p
I didn't think there was any anti-French racism in the US, beyond the usual ignorance, before that Iraq war rubbish started. Now it's just a juvenile knee-jerk reaction - they're just pissy that a country has the balls to stand up to the USA on an issue that's sensetive to their national ego.Quote:
Originally posted by arjue
I really don't get the whole racism towards the french, or why its acceptable. I can understand why the English do it, as stated above, its a rivalry thing they've got, like Canada and USA, or Australia and New Zealand. But why the fuck can Americans go spouting racist shit about them?
EDIT: And we don't make fun of the french (though I'm sure a few of us do).
You could also mention the Rocky Montains are out west! It's not all farmland. ;) I have not been out west yet - but I would love to take a cross-country trip one day. I am also dying to visit Nunavut (way up north, to those who do not know)! It's so pretty up there... and not as bloody hot! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
Well, Toronto is between Vc and Montreal, for one :D:D:D. There's also Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Regina (which doesn't count as much of a city, but it's the biggest town in Saskatchewan). The West is made up largely of farmland, with a relatively small population compared to the rest of the country. Statistically, there's just not enough people to raise a serious voice on forums like this one. Kind of like, if you have a discussion about various parts of the US, you won't have a whole lot of people shouting about South Dakota or Delaware.
I have been nearly everywhere in the eastern half of the country. Ottawa is a great bilingual city. Québec City is one of the most beautiful and fun places in North America. Nova Scotia is incredibly beautiful. I'd like to visit PEI and the Gaspé one day....
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Travelling is fun. :)
Andrew: WHO THE HELL IS STRIKER ???
Mm, yes! The mountains are great :). I lived in Calgary for a few years as a kid, and we'd go on trips to the rockies an awful lot. (My mom is a painter, and most Western artists spend a lot of their time painting mountain scenery).Quote:
Originally posted by sggg
You could also mention the Rocky Montains are out west! It's not all farmland. ;) I have not been out west yet - but I would love to take a cross-country trip one day. I am also dying to visit Nunavut (way up north, to those who do not know)! It's so pretty up there... and not as bloody hot! ;)
I have been nearly everywhere in the eastern half of the country. Ottawa is a great bilingual city. Québec City is one of the most beautiful and fun places in North America. Nova Scotia is incredibly beautiful. I'd like to visit PEI and the Gaspé one day....
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Travelling is fun. :)
I've been across the country a couple of times, but I was pretty young at the time so I probably didn't appreciate it as much as I could now. Nova Scotia and PEI are indeed gorgeous, and I'd live there in a second if I had the chance! New Brunswick is cool because of the crazy half-French, half-English dialects that you find. Geez, now I'm getting a road-trip urge too!
My biggest memories of Vancouver involve herds of crazed homeless people trying to sell me drugs, and having to share a room with two dirty American guys who though they were hippies and couldn't go five minutes without talking about weed. Maybe I was in the wrong part of town?
Paul Peschisolido? :pQuote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
Andrew: WHO THE HELL IS STRIKER ???
Oh! I love the Acadian dialects. My best friend's father is Acadian so I get to hear about all the family reuinions in NB and all those crazy franglais experssions!Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
New Brunswick is cool because of the crazy half-French, half-English dialects that you find. Geez, now I'm getting a road-trip urge too!
I remember her telling me this one expression meant to indicate you like how someone was dressed. It was "J'aime le way que hang." I love that!
Um, so who's up for a TNL cross-Canada roadtrip? :p
Umm... it was a typo? Oh sure, I might not read peoples names, but atleast I know their avatars. And oh sure, it may not help you in this case, but I'd just like to ignore that part, because it makes me the fool.Quote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
Andrew: WHO THE HELL IS STRIKER ???
People conotate and joke about the french and white flags all the time in the U.S. It is juvenile, but all of this brand of nonesense is.Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
I didn't think there was any anti-French racism in the US, beyond the usual ignorance, before that Iraq war rubbish started. Now it's just a juvenile knee-jerk reaction - they're just pissy that a country has the balls to stand up to the USA on an issue that's sensetive to their national ego.
I'm up for it if I get shotgun all the way and control over the radio.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Um, so who's up for a TNL cross-Canada roadtrip? :p
That is the coolest expression ever!! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
I remember her telling me this one expression meant to indicate you like how someone was dressed. It was "J'aime le way que hang." I love that!
I'd make it my custom status if it was not dedicated to my war against the evil evil evil evil sun. :sweat:
;)
Make all the custom status you want, I still get shotgun.Quote:
Originally posted by sggg
That is the coolest expression ever!! :lol:
I'd make it my custom status if it was not dedicated to my war against the evil evil evil evil sun. :sweat:
;)
Is she well known? Are there images online? I'd love to see them...Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
Mm, yes! The mountains are great :). I lived in Calgary for a few years as a kid, and we'd go on trips to the rockies an awful lot. (My mom is a painter, and most Western artists spend a lot of their time painting mountain scenery).
Yeh, I spent a short bit of time in Moncton and Saint John and I came away very impressed by both of them. It's really nice out there...Quote:
New Brunswick is cool because of the crazy half-French, half-English dialects that you find. Geez, now I'm getting a road-trip urge too!
I want to go on a road trip now too... the city is too hot. It would be a good time to travel.
http://www.mamehot.net/opisy/mk3/postacie/stryker.jpgQuote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
Andrew: WHO THE HELL IS STRIKER ???
Hey, Mississauga rules! Not only do we have one of the world's largest shopping malls, we also have its weirdest city hall!Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Have fun. You can visit Sarnia and Sudbury while you're there.
Oh .... and Mississauga. :p
http://members.rogers.com/kruthard/s...sept8-02-1.JPG
Marvel at our 200 year old mayor, who has been mayor for the city's entire history! (no, seriously)
http://www.city.mississauga.on.ca/IN...PHOTOS/MYR.JPG
And best of all, we have Sega City!!
http://www.gatecity.co.jp/shop/shopd...shop-image.jpg
http://www.home.cpol.com/sites/links/sega.gif
...other than that it's totally dull, and I only live here because the rent's cheap.
Don't worry, you'll change your tune once you start shaving.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Most beer doesn't taste palitable.
-StrikerDyo
:lol: StriderKyo!!! Great post. That is one crazy city hall you have! Send my congratulations to your mayor for such longevity. :D
For all this making fun of Toronto I do, I actually visit often and have a lot of friends (aka "traitors") who live there. :p
That was way funnier than it should have been.Quote:
what would you consider cheap rent up there?
My rent is half of $765 CDN - so that is $382 CDN ($280 US/$480 AUS). That is for a nice 3½ with all included. Apparently it's also considered slightly expensive to crazy locals! :eek: Compared to what I am used to in the NYC area it's positively microscopic though.... For a frame of reference this is on Plateau Mont Royal - a really nice neighbourhood in downtown Montréal. :)
$765 is not slightly expensive for Montréal, it is VERY expensive! for Montréal. In the past few years it was common to get a 31/2 for $300-$500. Things are getting slightly more expensive (à la Toronto) for rent but still you should be able to get a great place from between $400-650 ... although $650-800 for a really nice place is not all that surprising (especially downtown).
this is per month, no?
that is pretty darn cheap...
whats the live music scene like in Montreal? or a more english language oriented place?
It's per month. Also, Icepop = Crazy local! :p
What's the rent like in Australia?
As for live music (and nightlife in general) Montréal has an excellent reputation. The city is known for being extremely lively. I don't know what kind of music you like but there is a lot of everything and, also, many bands play here when on tour in NA. It's not exactly NYC, but what is... ;)
Biggest piece of shit yet. Ask your parents, ask your boss, ask your neighbours. Adults drink beer, but beer is not palitable. You don't drink beer with a fine dinner.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
Don't worry, you'll change your tune once you start shaving.
-StrikerDyo
It has nothing to do with me shaving. It's common sense, if you go in to a restaurant and order their shrimp and lobster soppressata with radish salad and basil oil, then ask for a beer, you'd look like a fool.
Again, my point wasn't to downgrade beer, but the, AGAIN, if you wanted to drink something with taste, beer isn't the option.
How come it's so cheap?Quote:
Originally posted by sggg
My rent is half of $765 CDN - so that is $382 CDN ($280 US/$480 AUS). That is for a nice 3½ with all included. Apparently it's also considered slightly expensive to crazy locals! :eek: Compared to what I am used to in the NYC area it's positively microscopic though.... For a frame of reference this is on Plateau Mont Royal - a really nice neighbourhood in downtown Montréal. :)
According to Icepop it's expensive. :sweat:Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
How come it's so cheap?
In my opinion everything in Montréal is crazy-cheap! It's all relative I suppose, but Montréal is known to have the cheapest cost of living of any major city in North America.... So I guess I am "right". ;)
where I live, the rent is about $1000 Australian, which is roughly $900 Canadian.
After I've studied, I'm thinking of moving somewhere, and Canada is the place I think I might go. I'm asking about the music scene because I plan on being a part time musician, so the more lively the better :) .
Can you get by in montreal without any knowledge of french?
I think it's bilingual but Sggg would have to say, or icepop. Isn't it illegal to make a right hand turn on a red light in Quebec?
Yeh, you'll have no problem. I don't speak French that well. I can read/write fairly well and I can talk about "simple things" but I can't really have a deep conversation with it. Regardless though, I hardly ever use French and I live in one of the most Francophone areas of the city. Almost everyone speaks English... and on the occasions when someone doesn't its not that big of a deal. :)Quote:
Originally posted by arjue
Can you get by in montreal without any knowledge of french?
Not anymore. Now it's only on the Island of Montréal.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Isn't it illegal to make a right hand turn on a red light in Quebec?
I do.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
You don't drink beer with a fine dinner.
Sounds like homo food to me...Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
if you go in to a restaurant and order their shrimp and lobster soppressata with radish salad and basil oil, then ask for a beer, you'd look like a fool.
You don't know what you're talking about. You're not going to chug MGD at La Tour D'Argent, no, and no, you probably wouldn't order beer there, in general.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Biggest piece of shit yet. Ask your parents, ask your boss, ask your neighbours. Adults drink beer, but beer is not palitable. You don't drink beer with a fine dinner.
It has nothing to do with me shaving. It's common sense, if you go in to a restaurant and order their shrimp and lobster soppressata with radish salad and basil oil, then ask for a beer, you'd look like a fool.
Again, my point wasn't to downgrade beer, but the, AGAIN, if you wanted to drink something with taste, beer isn't the option.
However, there are many, many beers that are 'tasteful' in the sense of being both both richly flavorful and aesthetically wise. You can drink some white wines, Alsatians, German rieslings, with many asian foods, but often beer is far more appropriate and is a better accompaniment. A Pilsner Urquell will match good curries at least as well as a wine.
There are a many beers with flavors as nuanced as a majority of the wines any of us can afford to drink on a regular basis. Anchor makes a few of them, Budvar, Pilsner Urquell, I dunno, it's foolish even trying to list all the beers that are at least as suitable as table wine for a "fine dinner".
If you have to choose between great wine and great beer to drink with most foods, yes, you'll choose great wine. However, remember that it's very rare that you get a chance to drink truly great wine.
Also, if you're going to pull the snobbish aesthete thing in the future, dismiss quality levels, not entire food/beverage types. IE, "People who drink Miller Lite are idiots" or "Men should never drink sweet cocktails" is okay, but "Beer is never appropriate with fine food" or "Frying is an inferior cooking technique" is dumb. You won't know enough, really, ever, to dismiss an entire category of drink - I may hate vodka or something like that, but I know that it's appropriate at times.
Plus, once you move from pablum into the realm of strongly, deeply flavored foods and beverages (the difference between Boone's and Le Chateau Yquem, Natty Light and Anchor Liberty Ale, a Chicken McNugget and real fried chicken), then basically any combination is appropriate.
Tricky business, being stuck-up, I know.
I'd be all for that, but I'm already coming to Montreal (Aug 15-18) to watch the Expos; I will have no money after that (Beer and such).Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Um, so who's up for a TNL cross-Canada roadtrip? :p
About Beer: I don't particularly like the taste of beer. I'd prefer a fruity drink (read into that 88 and no CDN show for you ;)). Beer is an aquired taste, though. For instance, if I have to order beer it's either Strongbow or Keiths.
I don't drink much either - but when I do I also prefer something fruity or girly. :p
Arjue, another thing to mention about the cost of living in Montréal is that you definitely won't need to have a car and all of the expenses that go along with it. There is excellent mass transportation with the Métro and the busses. We don't have a car and never need one. :)
Brisco, go Expos! Who are they playing?
http://icyicy.com/forum/icon_smile_expos.gif
San Fransico!
88: Check your PMs.
Ha! you fa...Quote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
About Beer: I don't particularly like the taste of beer. I'd prefer a fruity drink
...tastic person.Quote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
read into that 88 and no CDN show for you
Good to hear!
But... what's the common place for adults to drink when they go out to one of these mature restaurants?Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
You don't know what you're talking about. You're not going to chug MGD at La Tour D'Argent, no, and no, you probably wouldn't order beer there, in general.
However, there are many, many beers that are 'tasteful' in the sense of being both both richly flavorful and aesthetically wise. You can drink some white wines, Alsatians, German rieslings, with many asian foods, but often beer is far more appropriate and is a better accompaniment. A Pilsner Urquell will match good curries at least as well as a wine.
There are a many beers with flavors as nuanced as a majority of the wines any of us can afford to drink on a regular basis. Anchor makes a few of them, Budvar, Pilsner Urquell, I dunno, it's foolish even trying to list all the beers that are at least as suitable as table wine for a "fine dinner".
If you have to choose between great wine and great beer to drink with most foods, yes, you'll choose great wine. However, remember that it's very rare that you get a chance to drink truly great wine.
Also, if you're going to pull the snobbish aesthete thing in the future, dismiss quality levels, not entire food/beverage types. IE, "People who drink Miller Lite are idiots" or "Men should never drink sweet cocktails" is okay, but "Beer is never appropriate with fine food" or "Frying is an inferior cooking technique" is dumb. You won't know enough, really, ever, to dismiss an entire category of drink - I may hate vodka or something like that, but I know that it's appropriate at times.
Plus, once you move from pablum into the realm of strongly, deeply flavored foods and beverages (the difference between Boone's and Le Chateau Yquem, Natty Light and Anchor Liberty Ale, a Chicken McNugget and real fried chicken), then basically any combination is appropriate.
Tricky business, being stuck-up, I know.
Again, my point wasn't that beer sucked, but that wine was more palitable.
I never made any of those comments. I said what beer is typically drunken at bars, or parties with pizza or whatnot, as opposed to a mature restaurant that a matured adult would visit. I never ever insinuated that people who drink beer were morons, and I'd like to know how you misconsqueued my words here, but the original "case" was for mature, 'grownups' and what they'd maturely drink. Your post was very informative but didn't really do anything except strengthen my case. (not that it's some sort of brain surgery) Beer has its place, and is used in the kitchen for many things by chefs, but, again, wine is the standard and more palitable.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Also, if you're going to pull the snobbish aesthete thing in the future, dismiss quality levels, not entire food/beverage types. IE, "People who drink Miller Lite are idiots" or "Men should never drink sweet cocktails" is okay, but "Beer is never appropriate with fine food" or "Frying is an inferior cooking technique" is dumb. You won't know enough, really, ever, to dismiss an entire category of drink - I may hate vodka or something like that, but I know that it's appropriate at times.
That's all you had to say.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
If you have to choose between great wine and great beer to drink with most foods, yes, you'll choose great wine.
Heheh, I can't believe I'm doing this, but, okay, first, "palatable" doesn't mean what you think it means - "palatable" means "acceptable to be drunk or eaten". Water is more palatable than beer. A lot of people misuse the word, though.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
But... what's the common place for adults to drink when they go out to one of these mature restaurants?
Again, my point wasn't that beer sucked, but that wine was more palitable.
I don't think "What's the common place for adults to drink when they go out to one of these mature restaurants?" means what you think it means. You're asking what "the common place for adults" to drink is "when they go out to...restaurants." I'd imagine "the common place" is at a table in the restaurant, or at a bar, ie you're referring to the physical area in which drinking usually takes place.
You seem to try to fashion sentences that sound learned, and you ignore the importance of actually trying to make sense. I feel like Inigo from The Princess Bride.
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I never made any of those comments. I said what beer is typically drunken at bars, or parties with pizza or whatnot, as opposed to a mature restaurant that a matured adult would visit.
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I never ever insinuated that people who drink beer were morons, and I'd like to know how you misconsqueued my words here, but the original "case" was for mature, 'grownups' and what they'd maturely drink.
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Most beer doesn't taste palitable.
There are people who can go into restaurants, order the most expensive dish at the last good restaurant you went to, and drink beer. They aren't fools, necessarily.Quote:
if you go in to a restaurant and order their shrimp and lobster soppressata with radish salad and basil oil, then ask for a beer, you'd look like a fool.
People who drink beer would be morons if beer wasn't palatable.
Look, you made a stupid comment. You don't know enough about beer or wine to make this statement: "Mine was that there are better tasting things than beer, that mature people (aka grownups) do drink, like wine." A lot of women drink cheap American Chardonnay when they go out to bars, a beverage that requires a far less refined taste than that which a good beer asks for. You don't seem to know what palatable means, which leads to a sentence like "most beer doesn't taste palitable."
How do you know if "wine does taste better than beer" if you don't drink wine? You say "you don't drink beer with a fine dinner," yet, no, you're wrong, people do drink beer with fine dinners.
Going "in to a restaurant and order[ing] their shrimp and lobster soppressata with radish salad and basil oil, then ask[ing] for a beer," does not so necessarily make someone a "fool" that it's "common sense".
You say that "if you wanted to drink something with taste, beer isn't the option," which is, again, simply wrong. Beer is potentially tasteful both socially and aesthetically.
Your sort-of-round-a-bout accuracy as you over-emphasized a pretty obvious point, that wine is more often drunk with good food than beer, doesn't take away from the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. "Striker: Grownups drink wine for taste with their meal, not guzzling down some Canadian to wash it down," is a stupid statement that you're not informed well enough to make.
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Anyways, the reason I argue with you is that it seems like you could, eventually, learn how to write well. However, you're over-confident and full of shit. As long as you're comfortable with, you know, the "sound and fury" of meaningless writing that looks good, then you'll never produce anything that goes beyond stupid ass comments like "wine is more tasteabilityfull than beer" or whatever.
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It just gets weirder from different angles. It's supposed to combine the look of a factory, a grain elevator, a greek temple, a farm silo and other things that have nothing to do with Mississauga.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
That is one crazy city hall you have!
http://www.clr.utoronto.ca/PRECEDENT.../Full19.sm.jpg
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It's gorgeous inside, though. Marble frescoes, an art gallery, an indoor botanical garden, brushed steel art-deco elevators, a huge stained glass window for the wedding chapel, and this crazy native starscape over the council chamber.
I had a nice dinner with my father last week. He served a cold english porter. My father, incidentally, has been a writer for Wine Tidings for the last 20 years.Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Biggest piece of shit yet. Ask your parents, ask your boss, ask your neighbours. Adults drink beer, but beer is not palitable. You don't drink beer with a fine dinner.
Actually, what you said was:Quote:
I never made any of those comments. I said what beer is typically drunken at bars, or parties with pizza or whatnot, as opposed to a mature restaurant that a matured adult would visit.
Honestly, do you know anything? Because so far at TNL you're like 0 for 300. Which is one thing, but refusing to admit you're wrong and being a jerk to people who know better is quite another.Quote:
Nobody drinks beer for taste, they drink it to get hammered
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Originally posted by Stone
However, you're over-confident and full of shit. As long as you're comfortable with, you know, the "sound and fury" of meaningless writing that looks good, then you'll never produce anything that goes beyond stupid ass comments like "wine is more tasteabilityfull than beer" or whatever.
Mississauga City Hall looks like Alcatraz, and Mississauga itself is a characterless sprawl of subdivisions and commercial parks.
I love those upper middle class suburban chicks, though. They dress so well...although having to listen to all that r&b is pretty killer.Quote:
Originally posted by Kenshin
Mississauga City Hall looks like Alcatraz, and Mississauga itself is a characterless sprawl of subdivisions and commercial parks.
EDIT: omg what drunk talk?!?!?
Ugh, no. On both counts.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
I love those upper middle class suburban chicks, though. They dress so well...although having to listen to all that r&b is pretty killer.
I'm a fan of the Downtown Toronto type of girls. They have style, and taste.
I like Montreal girls ... they are cute and stylish without being pretentious. :p
And modest to boot.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
I like Montreal girls ... they are cute and stylish without being pretentious. :p
Look at her sig Mech, I think she was talking about other girls. :p
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Probably strippers she picks up on Ste-Catherine Street.... :eek:
I plan on making a trip to Montreal. But before that, my parents are going to Canada for 4th of July weekend. WOO!
Where are they going?
Cool. I moved here from there. If you are driving it should take 4½ hours from Northern New Jersey. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Rumpy
I plan on making a trip to Montreal.
Have fun. ;)
Shit is that all? 4 1/2 hours? My aunt and uncle built a house in Canada (Stony Lake, about 2 hours from Toronto, 8 hours from here) as a summer home, and my 'rents are going there from the 3rd-7th. I'd go, but last years trip sucked so bad I've wisened up. I'm taking the opportunity to throw my own party while they're gone (keep that on the dl would ya). I can't wait.
Blue Jays 6, Expos 5. Jays lead the season series 3-1. Just thought I'd, y'know, mention that.
Canadiens 24, Leafs 13. The pictures of the Leafs last Stanley Cup parade are in black and white. Just thought I'd, y'know, mention that.
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Ancient history. How many times have the Habs even made the playoffs in the last 8 years? Once? The Canadiens' glory days are long gone.Quote:
Originally posted by icepop
Canadiens 24, Leafs 13. The pictures of the Leafs last Stanley Cup parade are in black and white. Just thought I'd, y'know, mention that.
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Not that I cheer for the Leafs anymore anyway, heh.
It always takes me exactly 5½ hours to go door to door. My parents live in central NJ - so an hour of my drive is in NJ, so yeh, 4½ is a reasonable estimate from Northern NJ. I drive pretty fast and I don't stop for anything except gas in Plattsburgh.Quote:
Originally posted by Rumpy
Shit is that all? 4 1/2 hours?
1993 is a lot more recent than 1967.... and the Habs have one of the deepest farm systems in the league. If the new CBA in 04 is favourable to Canadian teams the Habs could be a force once again.Quote:
Originally posted by StriderKyo
Ancient history. How many times have the Habs even made the playoffs in the last 8 years? Once? The Canadiens' glory days are long gone.
Not that they'd get past the Devils, mind you, but they're an up and coming team. ;)
The Canadians may be on to something. Since Maruchan's been back, he's limited his use of elipcies. ;)
Exposure to the Queen's English sorted him out. :p
Fucking Jay's lost today. 3-2.
Fucking Expos won today. 3-2.Quote:
Originally posted by Brisco Bold
Fucking Jay's lost today. 3-2.
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Tie for the season. The only way to solve this is in the World Series!
That would be good for Canada, bad for MLB (ratings).
An all-Canadian World Series would be fantastic. There wouldn't be anyone around to fly the flag upsidedown that way. ;)
It almost makes me want to hope the Jays do well this year... almost. How is this, I hope they either lose to the Spos in the Series or miss the playoffs. :p
the BJs were.....
I hate you... and Trevor Miller.
Either way, no Pearson Cup for you!
Happy Canada Day, hosers. ;)
Take off.