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Ok, I was doing my usual rounds and I came across a few statements made about Microsoft trying to partner with Nintendo on their next console. The editor in question said that even some of his inside sources confirmed that something was indeed going on with these two companies. This is the first I've heard of this, am I just out of the loop, or is this news to everyone? Does anyone here know anything about this? Please share. If it's true, I really don't know how to react.
This is news to me. It seems strange that Nintendo would partner with Microsoft, but its what I have always wanted, well not this exact thing. I always thought it would be great if multiple gaming companies would come together and just make one system for everything. I really wouldn't mind seeing this come true as long as I still get to see my favorite Nintendo franchises. I'm really interested in hearing if there is any truth behind this.
The possibilities would be interesting to say the least.
Actually the more I think about it the more it would make sense. If Nintendo and Microsoft were to pair up for the next gen console war it could work. Nintendo could run the show in their native country while Microsoft would run the show here in it's native country. Nintendo's U.S. branch would simply turn into a dev house where they could beef up production on more games since the hardware portion's being handled elsewhere. It may be a little rough at first but it could work with the right strategies in place.
This is interesting, indeed. An MS/Big N partnership could work excellently if done correctly. Not to mention Sony'd be getting thumped on like there's no tomorrow. Not that that's a particularly great thing, but it'd be damn good for N and MS.
Personally I think it'd be interesting to see who emerges still standing at the end, both companies have a reputation for totally screwing partners, and I've no doubt each would be trying to rook the other.
Sony may be the opposition that unites these enemies, but if history's shown us anything it's this: Giants fall. I wouldn't put much stock in rumors of Nintendo, with more money than god, needing a partner any time soon.
Where did you rounded it? There were a few gag articles a while back about such a venture. I think there was one on spong and one on gamespot.
At any rate, if anyone is 'friends' in this war it's Nintendo and MS. They've already had at least one business deal (Rare) and are sorta aiming at different products. Nintendo wants to make a game player where as Microsoft and Sony both want to make small computers for the living room, with joysticks, and commercials.
This...is where I think the validity might not be there. Thier philosophies are totally different in many ways.
Microsoft wants the entertainment appliance, Nintendo wants to make consoles.
Also I think they're both too geared into thier current strategy, which can both be said to be 'working'. Nintendo is making money and GameCube sales have spiked as time goes on. Microsoft was willing to treat the X-Box like the first pancake and give it to the dog, focusing on the next console.
I just don't see how it'd be mutually beneficial to thier individual mindsets. In the grand scheme of things, sure, but not necessarily for how each company wants thier future to go.
Really? I always wanted a pet elephant named Barnabi who could maybe fly sometimes. But flying isn't a must.Quote:
Originally posted by DarkCrow676
This is news to me. It seems strange that Nintendo would partner with Microsoft, but its what I have always wanted, well not this exact thing. I always thought it would be great if multiple gaming companies would come together and just make one system for everything. I really wouldn't mind seeing this come true as long as I still get to see my favorite Nintendo franchises. I'm really interested in hearing if there is any truth behind this.
I think it's a good idea. Together the systems libraries would be very good.
True, but Nintendo has a legendary team on their side.Quote:
Originally posted by NEOGEOman
Personally I think it'd be interesting to see who emerges still standing at the end, both companies have a reputation for totally screwing partners, and I've no doubt each would be trying to rook the other.
Sony may be the opposition that unites these enemies, but if history's shown us anything it's this: Giants fall. I wouldn't put much stock in rumors of Nintendo, with more money than god, needing a partner any time soon.
i would love to see it true. mas has the online vision and nin has the great games, sony woudl still trounce them in numbers, but i could give a fuck if good nin games hit on strong ms hardware. Letthem eat madden,i will take ead first party any day.
So how many times will this rumor be brought back to life? Isnt this like the 3rd time now?
Anyways, I think it would be damn cool if they teamed up. Nintendo just doesnt have what it takes to compete with consoles anymore. I dont care what any of you say. I see the Cube get spanked in sales every single day I go to work. Hell, the software barely moves. Poor little thing. People still look at the Box and PS2 as free DVD players. Seriously, its a HUGE selling point for the average folks. Cube has been doing a little better now that we offer 3 free things with it.
1. Free demo disc
2. 1 of the 4 free games
3. Zelda Ocarina of Time. (yes, we have a SHITLOAD)
I hope Nintendo and Microsoft pair up and beat the shit out of Sony.
---B.j.
Personally, I just don't see it happening. The corperate cultures of each company are just too different, not to mention their entertainment goals. Besides, if Nintendo really wanted a gaint corperate sugar daddy to handle the console, they could just turn to Matsushitsa. And likewise, if Microsoft wanted a strong, influential software developer they'd find Sega much easier to work with. Microsoft & Nintendo together just doesn't have the same ring of truth to it...
Smells like horseshit to me but for speculations sake I think I'd be down with that.
That sounds about right.Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Smells like horseshit to me but for speculations sake I think I'd be down with that.
How about something like this:Quote:
Originally posted by kbuchanan
If it's true, I really don't know how to react.
Wow are you calling the Nintendo faithful confused babies?
I like the idea, because I like crazy things, but if you believe this is happening so soon, you might as well commit yourself because you are probably a fucking wackjob.
I think there's 0 chance of it ever happening, I just wanted an excuse to post the picture.
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Originally posted by Bojack
I hope Nintendo and Microsoft pair up and beat the shit out of Sony.
This is about as likely as Sega making games for Nintendo.
Oh wait....
You working at one store doesn't give you the means to pass this judgement. Gamecube is still #2, Globally, and just recently it has been pushing its software quite well, according to that NTSR or whatever, data.Quote:
Originally posted by EvilMog007
So how many times will this rumor be brought back to life? Isnt this like the 3rd time now?
Anyways, I think it would be damn cool if they teamed up. Nintendo just doesnt have what it takes to compete with consoles anymore. I dont care what any of you say. I see the Cube get spanked in sales every single day I go to work. Hell, the software barely moves. Poor little thing. People still look at the Box and PS2 as free DVD players. Seriously, its a HUGE selling point for the average folks. Cube has been doing a little better now that we offer 3 free things with it.
1. Free demo disc
2. 1 of the 4 free games
3. Zelda Ocarina of Time. (yes, we have a SHITLOAD)
Gamecube hasn't done as well as it would've liked to, but it's not like Nintendo can't compete.
Obviously. It's such a big deal and so little of it, if any, is confirmed by anybody in either company.Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer
Smells like horseshit to me but for speculations sake I think I'd be down with that.
GC is #3 in the US, forget globally.
Still, they are good for competition, I just don't want one for more than 100 dollars. If Nintendo goes fully budget only, they'll get a purchase from me.
I'd rather have Nintendo and Sony alone than anyone with MS.
I don't know why'd you'd forget globally, as the parent makes money in all three.
I don't know how they'd work anything out. It would be a power struggle from the get-go and Nintendo definitely wouldn't go for it unless it meant a cash payoff for them in the end... who knows...
Without any links to any type of site, reputable or not, I'm just gonna assume that kbuchanan read something about how ATI is making chipsets for both Nintendo and Microsoft's next consoles.
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Originally posted by Blaine
Without any links to any type of site, reputable or not, I'm just gonna assume that kbuchanan read something about how ATI is making chipsets for both Nintendo and Microsoft's next consoles.
Good call.
Personally though I will stand firmly by my, "this ain't happening till hell freezes over", stance.
And even if it does before hell freezes over, I will deny it is happening illogically, and yes if necessary, violently.
The only tidbits i've recently heard involving Nintendo and MS is that Nintendo just bought back a bunch of its stock, and some people think thats a move to prevent a hostile takeover by MS. Thats a bit of a stretch though, because companies buy back their stock all the time.
Not true if the newest EGM data is accurate. Here's where the consoles stood as of 3/31/03 (so EGM says):Quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Gamecube is still #2, Globally
* Global Sales *
1. PS2 = 51+ Million units
2. Xbox = 14+ Million units
3. GC = 9+ Million units
I confess these numbers are based off memory and might be slightly off but I do remember pretty clearly that the GC wasn't in the #2 slot.
It would make alot more sense for Microsoft to buy Nintendo instead of partnering with them.
Good luck with that.
Microsoft can't sell the Xbox in Japan, even if it came with a free bj. The Japanese are loyal to thier brandnames. If Microsoft wants to compete on a global scale, they need a Japanese company with clout to push game/console sales there. Perhaps if they got Nintendo to use thier name, with MS's hardware, they could make headway over there. Meanwhile in the US, the console is pushed with Microsoft's brandname. Nintendo gets free publishing rights on the console and both companies win.
While I doubt this will happan by the next console or maybe even after that. If it did the two of them would not have to relocate offices, just build a walk way over the street that seperates them.
In theory, it sounds very nice, but the question is will it ever happen. My guess is no or at least no time soon, but it would save me some cash instead of having 1 other system to buy.
2 systems are less of a pain in my nuts than 3. Fucking 3 system standard limiting shelf space and making me have to drive around to 5 fucking stores every time I want a new GBA game because NO ONE will stock the games I want is really starting to get old. So go for it, Nintendo. For the GBA's sake.
But I don't understand what MS has to offer Nintendo, really. It sounds like they want Nintendo to pay them to not make a next gen system.
MS already tried that. I believe $25 billion was the amount Nintendo was offered.Quote:
Originally posted by Saint of Killers
It would make alot more sense for Microsoft to buy Nintendo instead of partnering with them.
I believe those numbers are for each companies' fiscal year. Meaning the PS2/GC numbers are projected shipped (not sold to consumers) for March 2003 and XBox are for June 2003.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
Not true if the newest EGM data is accurate. Here's where the consoles stood as of 3/31/03 (so EGM says):
* Global Sales *
1. PS2 = 51+ Million units
2. Xbox = 14+ Million units
3. GC = 9+ Million units
I confess these numbers are based off memory and might be slightly off but I do remember pretty clearly that the GC wasn't in the #2 slot.
I have an extremely hard time believing Microsoft is over 10 million, but hey, if EGM said it! I know you don't think it's a credible site either, but does anybody have the full skinny on these numbers?Quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Furious
Not true if the newest EGM data is accurate. Here's where the consoles stood as of 3/31/03 (so EGM says):
* Global Sales *
1. PS2 = 51+ Million units
2. Xbox = 14+ Million units
3. GC = 9+ Million units
I confess these numbers are based off memory and might be slightly off but I do remember pretty clearly that the GC wasn't in the #2 slot.
I don't care who's #2, honestly, but it's nice to have the official information.
It would cost Microsoft more then the Xbox and the R & D on the Xbox 2 to buy Nintendo. It's not going to happen, so kbuchanan is right.Quote:
Originally posted by kbuchanan
Good luck with that.
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Originally posted by Kinopio
MS already tried that. I believe $25 billion was the amount Nintendo was offered.
Global hardware shipments as reported by the manufacturers as of March 2003
PS2-51.2 million
Cube-9.4 million
Xbox-8 million
The myth has been dispelled.
Kinopio to the rescue, damnit.
Halo, Halo, and Halo.Quote:
Originally posted by Frogacuda
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But I don't understand what MS has to offer Nintendo, really. It sounds like they want Nintendo to pay them to not make a next gen system. [/B]
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Originally posted by Kinopio
Global hardware shipments as reported by the manufacturers as of March 2003
PS2-51.2 million
Cube-9.4 million
Xbox-8 million
The myth has been dispelled.
And to think that this month's EGM would have the balls to say there are 13 million Xbox's and only 9.4 million for the Gamecube. I could'nt beleive the Xbox could sell that many units in the US and Europe, because MS has only sold about 56,000 units in Japan this year. www.the-magicbox.com:bang:
call me crazy, but i don't want to see this partnership form. i'm afriad if ms joined with nintendo japan would give a big fuck you to the game console because of ms. if that happens, nintendo would go down real fast.
the japanese HATE ms and they could be like a virus if they hooked up with nintendo. and aside from that, nintendo is too greedy. they wouldn't want to share their profits with anyone. but then again, they have a new president. he might want to do whatever it takes to get nintendo back on top again. joining with someone like ms might be the only way to do it.
If MS could convince Nintendo to publish games for the unit, without paying any royalties, Nintendo would benefit big time. They would'nt have to take the risks involved with manufacturing a console. I can't see Nintendo doing this, because of pride, but it could be a very lucrative deal for them.
The only problem with that is that the Gamecube makes Nintendo money with every purchase... so it's not they'd be giving up their market share for no real reason. (they have more usebase then Xbox right now, thus their games are the focus of their own console)
I'm too lazy to read all of the comments made, so if you could please excuse me if this had already been touched upon by another poster.
If the two got together to make a system, and released it too the public, what would happen if one or both of the companies wanted to independently own the next council? How would they begin working on competing councils while their partnered one still would have a good one, two, or three years left of shelf time?
BTW, hi everyone. Sorry I don't have time to post here more. I enjoy reading here when I have a chance.