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18 Jul 2003, 02:28 AM
station82o

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Originally posted by MVS
21 May 2003|09:31pm

So...ummm...yeah, the Army basically tried to bend me over and stick it to me.

Highly dissapointing day, which I'll expound upon later.

Okay, so I go to take my physical today, leave at 4 AM.

Shitty thing #1: You can't smoke anywhere, and if you go outside to do it, you have to start all over again.

Shitty thing #2: By the time I did my hearing test, my stomach was rumbling so much, I coundn't hear shit.

So, I'm worried that I'm going to fail this physical, but I don't. I pass with 1's in 5 areas (1's are best) and a 2 in sight. My eyes suck, what can I say.

After that, they make you get fingerprinted, and then talk to a counseler or, more accurately, a 'closer'. This is the guy that when you buy a car, he closes the deal. Cue high pressure tactics.

Okay, so this Special Forces Age Waiver, which was '80% likely' then 'you pass your physical you'll get it' goes to 'Denied' pretty quick. It was dissapointing, but, at the same time, I can understand. Still, since that was a certanty, I didn't pick a plan B.

So, then I'm thinking 'Okay, I'll go home, think about another job and then come back'. Ummm...no.

They want me to sign the contract today. Right now, sign.

Ummm...what? Somewhere along the line the recruiter seemed to forget that info.

From there, it goes to shit:

Can I see this contract, take it home and then come back?
No, only if you sign it.

I don't have another MOS (job), what should I do?
Just sign up for anything, and maybe you can get your waiver later.
Hells no.

Can I go Ranger?
You can go Ranger in September if you want.
Doing what?
Openings for Culinary Arts and Logistics.
Soo....cook or clerk?
Basically.
Hells no.

#1, I'm not signing anything today.

That really sends them over the edge and they start to pass me up the chain to more important Officers and closers. Still, I'm not signing up for something I don't want.

Then they tell me to pick 3 jobs I want to do, and that I'll likely get 1 of those for sure. Umm...wtf?

So, bottom line.

I've passed my physical and can go in.
I need to pick another job if I'm going to do it.
I think there's a 10% chance I'll go in the Army.

It really felt like the old bait and switch and that I was told completly different things by the recruiter.

PFC. M. Van Stone, Cook...

FUCK THAT!

Argh that sucks, I suppose that special forces guys are mainly taken from new recruits who came in at age 18 or so. Well... its been some months since that happened it seems so you've probably had some time to deal with it. There was a future before the military option came along and there will be a future now that it is gone.
18 Jul 2003, 02:37 AM
Fe 26

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Originally posted by MVS
Well, a lot of that information came from you. If anyone is contemplating joining a service, I reccomend finding someone who is currently in it, like FighterX, to talk about the process.

So, thanks, FX.

I have to agree with MVS on this one. Recruiters will do anything to get you to join. They get paid extra for each person they recruit.

Talking to someone who does the job you want is the way to go.
19 Jul 2003, 01:58 AM
Megatron

Depends on who you talk to, but speaking for myself I am.
19 Jul 2003, 02:01 AM
Josh

Good at getting owned... yes. Yes you are.
19 Jul 2003, 04:03 AM
Master of 7s

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Originally posted by TaiMaiShu
I really don't like to be a good person all of the time...where's the fun in that.

I seriously do NOT understand this line of thinking.

How much fun can life be if you go around pissing everybody off and they want to string you up by your ballsack?
19 Jul 2003, 05:07 AM
MVS

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Originally posted by station82o
Argh that sucks, I suppose that special forces guys are mainly taken from new recruits who came in at age 18 or so. Well... its been some months since that happened it seems so you've probably had some time to deal with it. There was a future before the military option came along and there will be a future now that it is gone.

Oh, I'm not worried about it, and, I certainly still respect anyone that does it. You get props from me.

I checked it out, took my tests, was offered one thing and then it was taken away. I'm not bitter about it, but it's not for me.

I did all anyman can do, and that's check it out and give it serious thought. So, people like FX, 7F and whoever still get props despite the bait and switch on me.
19 Jul 2003, 05:51 AM
StriderKyo

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Originally posted by Ragnarok the Red
Honestly, if the Pope would just let members of the clergy either pleasure, which is a natural part of human biology, or marry, we'd have a lot less of this molestation nonesense and I might consider coming back into the secular fold...

Secular means the opposite of what I think you think it means:

sec·u·lar

1. Worldly rather than spiritual.
2. Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: secular music.
3. Relating to or advocating secularism.
4. Not bound by monastic restrictions, especially not belonging to a religious order.

Not nitpicking, just trying to save you future trouble.

See? Aren't I a good person?
19 Jul 2003, 08:53 AM
FX

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Originally posted by MVS

So, thanks, FX.

No prob, 'Stone. I hate to see people getting the shaft just because some asshole recruiter wants to meet their quota.

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Originally posted by voltz
As long as you're given what you want to work with, that's all that matters. Signing the papers and expecting a waver isn't going to get you anywhere because if there's one unwritten rule the military is known for, it's FUCKING OVER anybody who joins, unless you really know how to kiss ass with the right people.

You don't want to work your term as a cook the whole time you're in service. Signing that will keep you there, belive it!

Keep waiting on options and hope you can get something solid and be a jerk if you have you. The last thing you need is to have them talk you into a shitty deal and realize you have just been pawned as another grunt in uncle sam's so-called "proud army". (yeah right) :rolleyes:

I'd say, fuck'em. Go to collage, get something you like and stick it to the rest of the world. You only have what's rest of your life span to enjoy yourself you know. ;)

This man speaks the truth.

That's why I knew I wouldn't be a good officer.

1.) They are away from home WAY too much.
2.) They have to kiss ass ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I don't kiss anyone's ass.
19 Jul 2003, 12:02 PM
frostwolf ex

Quote:

Originally posted by StriderKyo
Secular means the opposite of what I think you think it means:

sec·u·lar

1. Worldly rather than spiritual.
2. Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: secular music.
3. Relating to or advocating secularism.
4. Not bound by monastic restrictions, especially not belonging to a religious order.

Not nitpicking, just trying to save you future trouble.

See? Aren't I a good person?

there was an episode of "sports night" about this very distinction, but i did it all the time too.
19 Jul 2003, 01:18 PM
Brisco Bold

This is gonna sound like it's outta left field, but what do you have to do to join the U.S. airforce?

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