guys and jeans

for the past...i dunno, 3 years or so i've been trying to find a good, nice fitting pair of jeans and i swear it's the hardest thing for me to do. i have a pretty small frame. i weigh about 115 pounds. whenever i try jeans on there's always something that's a little off. depending on the type they are they're either too long, or too short....or they don't fit right in the waist area. i'm getting really anoyed with it. i have about 3 pairs of jeans that i really like that fit me pretty well, but....they could be better. here's where the problem comes in actually. i've noticed some guys in certain area's in downtown DC who are about my size who have on jeans that look like they fit them really well...actually, these are all homosexual males and they'er all wearing female jeans. i was shoping in the gap the other day with a female friend of mine and i noticed a pair of jeans in the ladies section that looked....not half bad, but i was way too freaked out about trying them on. allot of people already think i'm gay 'cause i dress nice and i have allot of close female friends....bah....maybe i should just try on some chick jeans and see how they feel. any one else out there have this problem? i'd feel pretty fucked up if i was the only one here that felt this way. thanks for listenin'.

Spandex all the way baby.

Go to Walmart and buy some Wrangler stretch jeans.

I guarantee they'll accent your womanly curves.

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Originally posted by rama
i have allot of close female friends

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Do you want to have sex with these female friends? If not... I'd say its time to officially join the pink team.

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Originally posted by 88mph
Go to Walmart and buy some Wrangler stretch jeans.

I guarantee they'll accent your womanly curves.



Do you want to have sex with these female friends? If not... I'd say its time to officially join the pink team.

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these wrangler jeans are for guys, right?

i've been with a few of my close female friends....and i liked it, so, no, not joinin' the "pink" team.

Classic closet case...

Yes the stretch jeans are for guys. More specifically cowboys. Gay cowboys.

Bear with it, rama.

If people think you are gay now, then wearing women's jeans is going to cause more problems than it solves.

What type of jeans do you go for, anyhow? Tight, relaxed, baggy?

I've been a 34x32 for a while, and I get my baggy in 34x34. I've got an odd frame myself ( longs are longer than usual ).

Try wearing baggy, man. See what you can find. It does a good job of masking a small/med frame, and they are comfortable at the same time.

The jeans I wear are a pretty good fit. Kinda loose but that's how I like them. All of my jeans require me to wear a belt though... I'm fine with it, I don't need girly tight jeans. You homo.

Buy baggy and wear a belt.

Eh what the hell....

i don't like baggy jeans. i wore baggy jeans in high school just 'cause every one else wore'em but they're not really my style. maybe i just need more meat on my bones. i don't want to wear tight jeans...something loose, but not too loose. ergh.....feels like i'll never find the right pair of jeans.

get straight leg jeans. i only wear straight leg, it looks so much better

Will, that image is fucking fantastic. I like wearing loose fit jeans, which for me, is pretty much any pair of jeans on the planet.

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Originally posted by stormy
get straight leg jeans. i only wear straight leg, it looks so much better

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...hmmm...i had a pair of those once....i think the length was a lil fucked up though. are you tall, stormy? i haven't seen too many short guys pull off the straight leg jeans look too well.

Update: just saw your website, rama. You can't be surprised that people think you are gay man, come on. Your friend Nikki is a looker, btw.

Go get the tight jeans, bud. :lol:

Otherwise, go w/ the baggy.

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Originally posted by rama
...hmmm...i had a pair of those once....i think the length was a lil fucked up though.

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Fucking have them hemmed then.

I like baggy. :chick:

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Originally posted by 88mph
Fucking have them hemmed then.

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i don't have the fukking things anymore.

I say go with straight leg or slightly bootcut jeans ... those are stylish on a guy, I think. Just wear a belt and if they're too long, get them taken up.

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Originally posted by rama
i don't have the fukking things anymore.

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Then you're fucked.

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Originally posted by icepop
I say go with straight leg or slightly bootcut jeans ... those are stylish on a guy, I think. Just wear a belt and if they're too long, get them taken up.

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i had a pair of bootcut that i like but i grew out of them long ago. is there such a thing as a "slightly" bootcut jean?

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Originally posted by icepop
bootcut jeans ... those are stylish on a...

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...cowboy. Yee fuckin haw.

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Originally posted by bahn
I like baggy. :chick:

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Yeah, "nutgrabbing" jeans don't work for me. Baggy pwns.

Slightly bootcut ... hmmm ... I guess not. Hehe. Bootcut is nice though better than all out flares, you know. Also, avoid tapered jeans at all costs! :p

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Originally posted by icepop
flares

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Just call them bellbottoms. Thats all they are.
No hip name can erase their stupidity.

This reminds me. I need to buy new pants.

People in Chinatown enjoy wearing the super baggy pants...and uh, village/goth/punk ppl :p

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Originally posted by 88mph
Just call them bellbottoms. Thats all they are.
No hip name can erase their stupidity.

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I was wondering what 'pop was talking about.

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Originally posted by bahn
People in Chinatown enjoy wearing the super baggy pants...and uh, village/goth/punk ppl :p

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remembers the song Y.M.C.A by the village/goth/punk people. they had a hell of a mosh pit.

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Originally posted by Hero
This reminds me. I need to buy new pants.

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I hate going to buy clothes. Buuuuuuut at least I get what I need and I'm in/out.

How tall are you, anyway? My biggest problem with jeans isn't the cut, it's getting the height/width ratio right. 31/33 just isn't a popular size, I find walrus-jeans all over the place but it drives me nuts finding stuff my size.

Anyway, I resign myself to pulling in the waist a bit. Not a lot, once I've done some searching, but there's no two ways around it that I had to pull it in some. Beats short legged jeans, at any rate.

6 feet, 135 pounds. I'd say you have no idea how much I hate clothes shopping but I get the idea that maybe you do.

James

I heard that MechDeus invented pants.

I normally wear 34x30 but can get away with 32x30. Neither size seems to be in high demand.

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Originally posted by icepop
I heard that MechDeus invented pants.

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Did he invent the Internet too?

You bet your (pant-covered) ass I did!

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Originally posted by James
How tall are you, anyway? My biggest problem with jeans isn't the cut, it's getting the height/width ratio right. 31/33 just isn't a popular size, I find walrus-jeans all over the place but it drives me nuts finding stuff my size.

Anyway, I resign myself to pulling in the waist a bit. Not a lot, once I've done some searching, but there's no two ways around it that I had to pull it in some. Beats short legged jeans, at any rate.

6 feet, 135 pounds. I'd say you have no idea how much I hate clothes shopping but I get the idea that maybe you do.

James

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Who are you asking, rama?

I wish rama would post here more often.

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Originally posted by sleeveboy
I wish rama would post here more often.

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Yeah, he's usually in and out in a flash. He shows up for his annual posting, though.

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Originally posted by James
How tall are you, anyway?

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5' 7 1/2". i also have a bit of a problem with button down shirts too. i wear a small, but sometimes i with they were just a little smaller...but at least i can be comfortable in a small. yeah, i like clothes shopping allot, but it's just frustrating sometimes when you can't find something that's just right. usually with jeans i'd buy W30/L30...but, agian, depending on the type they are....

If I have jeans that are a little bit too long I just sorta walk the excess off. But then again I haven't had to do that in quite a while. You could also always cuff them... it's something I wouldn't do but I don't really mind others doing it. I wear a 38-36x30-32, and they are pretty loose in the waist, it all depends on the brand.

This reminds me that I need some new jeans.

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Originally posted by Hero
I normally wear 34x30 but can get away with 32x30. Neither size seems to be in high demand.

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I can't find those sizes around here to save my life.

Feel like mailing me some pants?

How tall are you, 88? Curious.

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Originally posted by rama
i like clothes shopping allot,

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I can't stand clothes shopping. Just in and out in a flash.

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Originally posted by rama
...hmmm...i had a pair of those once....i think the length was a lil fucked up though. are you tall, stormy? i haven't seen too many short guys pull off the straight leg jeans look too well.

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I am 6'4", so yeah. I'm not sure why they wouldn't look good on shorter people, but i guess i don't know. I like them cus they aren't overly baggy, they fit nice and snug around the waist and ass, but the legs still get plenty of room and the cuffs don't crowd the shoes. I would have suggested a pair from structure (they used to have a cut that fit me perfectly), but thier line of jeans was changed when they switched to Express for Men (which sucks). Granted, you have a different body type than i do, but it wouldnt hurt to try on a pair of straight leg jeans.

Plus Icepop thinks straight leg is hot

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Originally posted by FighterX
Yeah, he's usually in and out in a flash. He shows up for his annual posting, though.

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are you enjoying all this, sleeve?

....annual posting, huh? oh, see, i didn't have internet access at home for over 3 months and i finally got it back recently. free aol for 2 months.

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Originally posted by rama
5' 7 1/2". i also have a bit of a problem with button down shirts too. i wear a small, but sometimes i with they were just a little smaller...but at least i can be comfortable in a small. yeah, i like clothes shopping allot, but it's just frustrating sometimes when you can't find something that's just right. usually with jeans i'd buy W30/L30...but, agian, depending on the type they are....

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You sound like a very European build or something ... I bet you would have no problem whatsover shopping in London or Stockholm. Hell, you would probably have betterluck finding stuff that fits well in Montréal.

Whenever I've been clothes shopping in the states, I've always found that stuff fits kinda funny. Everything is always bigger.

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Originally posted by FighterX
How tall are you, 88? Curious.

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Five eight I think.

I'm fairly tall (5'11'', and average man height is 5'9'') and I have to have some sort of stuff on the legs of my jeans. My favorite pair of jeans are Old Navy painters jeans, I swear they are the best. Anyhow I wear 32x30, which are just loose enough wear they feel really comfortable, and I can still wear them without a belt (but I have to have to hold them up to some extent while walking) Anyhow, I swear by old navy painter's jeans!

EDIT: HOLY SHIT I JUST SAW YOUR PICTURE YOU FRUIT! You're fucked, just get the womans jeans fag boy, at least people will know your not trying to deny yourself.

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Originally posted by icepop
Everything is always bigger.

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HAHA FAT LAZY AMERICAN SWINE!! TAKEE THAT!1

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Originally posted by NApOLm321
I'm fairly tall (5'11'', and average man height is 5'9'') and I have to have some sort of stuff on the legs of my jeans. My favorite pair of jeans are Old Navy painters jeans, I swear they are the best. Anyhow I wear 32x30, which are just loose enough wear they feel really comfortable, and I can still wear them without a belt (but I have to have to hold them up to some extent while walking) Anyhow, I swear by old navy painter's jeans!

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You're 5'11" and wear a 32x30? That does NOT sound comfortable.

Sounds as though balls are being grabbed, buttcheeks are being seperated, and socks are being exposed.

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Originally posted by icepop
You sound like a very European build or something ... I bet you would have no problem whatsover shopping in London or Stockholm. Hell, you would probably have betterluck finding stuff that fits well in Montréal.

Whenever I've been clothes shopping in the states, I've always found that stuff fits kinda funny. Everything is always bigger.

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i don't really think it's the build so much as it's how they make thier clothes. i dunno.

speaking of europeans an' shit.....y'know that suit krispn glover wore in the first charlies angles movie? i want that fukkin' suit...or one that fits like it.

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Originally posted by FighterX
You're 5'11" and wear a 32x30? That does NOT sound comfortable.

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:confused: not following. I weigh 145 and they are perfect. They are real baggy around my legs, and are perfect around the waist. Well maybe it's because they are my favorite pair of jeans, that I broke them in REALLY good :blank:

more quick tips:

Levi's fade quicly and shrink - avoid
CK fades quickly
Quicksilver - thier jeans are hard to find but i had a pair that fit great and barely faded over 2 years - recommended
union bay - the best pair out of my current rotation, they are darker so fading doesn't look so bad

i am a jeans guy. They're all i wear, all of the time, all year round.

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Originally posted by stormy
Quicksilver

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Best pair of jeans I have ever owned.
Lasted for years before the pocket ripped off, and tore a huge hole in the ass of the pants. :(

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Originally posted by stormy
i am a jeans guy. They're all i wear, all of the time, all year round.

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i like wearing dress pants too. i wanna get a pair of dickies.





yes, dickies.

I have trouble finding pants too. I am always between sizes it seems. I searched all over the city for the pants I have now and they still don't fit, they are baggy and way too long... but better to big than too small, for comfort sake. :\

Rama, do you have any H&M's near where you live? I don't know how much they have penetrated the States but they have really slim and stylish European (Swedish) cut clothes and they are pretty affordable too. I used to shop at the ones in NYC/NJ. I wish they had one in Montréal. :(

http://hm.com/

*cough old navy painters jeans cough*

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Originally posted by rama
dickies.

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They stock them right next to the stretch jeans.

rama, you ever tried Faded Glory jeans? Bought a pair at Wal-Mart once and they were the most comfy jeans I'd ever worn, better than any Wrangler or Levi's I'd ever tried previously or since. May wanna check those out.

Oh, and has anyone ever told you you look like Hooper from Chasing Amy? :)

http://www.viewaskew.com/chasingamy/images/hoop.gif

haha

I have to wear dress pants for work. Dockers are fine.

hahahaha

i think there might be a few h&m's around here. just gotta figure out where they are.

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Originally posted by Ragnarok the Red
Oh, and has anyone ever told you you look like Hooper from Chasing Amy? :)
http://www.viewaskew.com/chasingamy/images/hoop.gif

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......no, actually. that's pretty funny.

I wear Old Navy jeans. They carry 32x30, have multiple shades of blue, and are cheap. They are also quite comfortable.

For work pants, the ones I have now, a $20 pair from Wal-Mart, are some of the most comfortable work pants I've ever worn. I had Dockers before, but I ruined them when pouring bleach around the dumpsters in the back (heh) a few months ago. They're quite thin, so you don't get very hot while wearing them.

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Originally posted by stormy
Quicksilver - thier jeans are hard to find but i had a pair that fit great and barely faded over 2 years - recommended

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Great brand. Most of the surf/skate brands make a good pair of jeans, my last two favorite pair have been Hurley, Quicksilver and Etinies. They are pretty easy to come across in my area, lots of surf shops.

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Originally posted by icepop
You sound like a very European build or something ... I bet you would have no problem whatsover shopping in London or Stockholm. Hell, you would probably have betterluck finding stuff that fits well in Montréal.

Whenever I've been clothes shopping in the states, I've always found that stuff fits kinda funny. Everything is always bigger.

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That is becasue Americans are over eating fat tubs of lard.

I gave up on jeans. I wear dickies or dress pants.

It is really weird how everyone can't find 34/30's and 32/30's because I to, wear that, and I to, know how hard they are to find.

I used to be a 36/30 but lost some poundege in college, so im back down to a 34 32 whathave you. i still wear the 36's with a belt, and I look sloppy, but who cares. Its just college people, does their opinion matter? nope. The 30 length doesn't fit me great either. What I really need is a 33/28.7, but like ill ever find that. I've also been known to settle with a waist that fits and just roll the legs up.

Nothing to terrible weird about wearing girl's pants. Rock stars have been doing that sense they quit making really good stretch pants. The lead singer of Mettalic for example wears girl pants. If you do this, id say try to find a brand that has no label, or a label that can be removed. Don't bring your life more drama than it needs for the sake of fashion.

I just wear baggy pants. Normal ones are too tight around the legs.

http://www.ninjasmacks.com/rama/mestanding.jpg

They don't make a pair of jeans that is going to keep people from calling you gay, my friend. Go get yourself some polo shirts, if you want to dress nicely, and lose those turtleneck sweaters.

If you want hard pants to find, try finding 38x36 khaki pants. =*( I hve to shop at the Big and Tall stores because most stores don't carry my size.

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Originally posted by Yoshi
http://www.ninjasmacks.com/rama/mestanding.jpg

They don't make a pair of jeans that is going to keep people from calling you gay, my friend. Go get yourself some polo shirts, if you want to dress nicely, and lose those turtleneck sweaters.

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He's blunt, but he's pretty much right. Then again, its up to you Rama to make a choice on giving a damn of what people think of you or just dressing and living the way you want to. Alot of people take offense to me just because I look like someone they wouldn't want their children to be around but I'm so used to it by now that it doesn't bother me... I've been given every dirty look in the book - but at the end of the day I'm happy to be me and everyone else can fuck off.

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Originally posted by Ragnarok the Red

Oh, and has anyone ever told you you look like Hooper from Chasing Amy? :)

http://www.viewaskew.com/chasingamy/images/hoop.gif

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Ooooooh, Yani! :D

Hey Rama, long time no see. One other tip, a scarf never looks masculine unless you are wearing about 13 layers of winter clothes.

JM

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Originally posted by Tones
I wear Old Navy jeans. They carry 32x30, have multiple shades of blue, and are cheap. They are also quite comfortable.

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This is the truth. WHen I worked at Old Navy I took full advantage of my discount. I buy Baggy fit jeans whenever I need a pair.

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Originally posted by JM
Ooooooh, Yani! :D

Hey Rama, long time no see. One other tip, a scarf never looks masculine unless you are wearing about 13 layers of winter clothes.

JM

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So how come Strider & Shinobi are considered so badass? Does their ninja-ness outweigh the scarf, or does the scarf add to it?

rama, i'm 5'7", around your height, and although a weigh a lot more than you, my waist is really small, and i wear loosefitting silvertabs and billabong jeans size 30/30, with a belt (although without the belt, it'd be more like 28 or 29). so i suggest those two brands, especially the billabong ones since they never stiff up.

Thats odd, all you guys complain about finding 32x30s but there is a plethoria around where i live :confused:

Rama, move to Québec. No-one will make fun of you wearing scarves or turtleneck sweaters here, I assure you of that. :)

i wasn't even wearing a turtle neck, i hate turtle necks. as for the scarf, it's just one picture, it's not like i wear a scarf all the time. i put it on just because.

seems like people are going to my site just to see how gay i look rather than to check out my artwork. you guys are checking out my artowrk, right?

I cannot believe what I am reading.

rama obviously has a unique style, and he should be praised for it. This may surprise many of you, but it is quite possible to dress fashionably and attractively without being "gay", and without having to resort to boring polo shirts. I admire anyone who has the panache to carry off that long scarf and turtleneck look.

rama, do not let these people discourage you from having your own style (not that they would have, but still).

thanks sleeveboy. you too sggg. no way i'd let all the negative energy phase me though.

I agree with sggg and sleeveboy on this one. Rama doesn't look gay, he just looks like he has some style and fashion sense. Seriously, you would fit in just right in Montréal. All the French (and English too) boys tend to have a lot of style.

You can always tell when there are Americans in town here because they dress so differently ... they are all in baggy faded blue jeans, backwards caps, sweatshirts, vests, and always somehow neglect to bring a coat in the dead of winter. They all look like drunk jocks. :lol:

that may be an accurate description of Americans in general but for most of us who live in certain climates... those clothes at times (baggy and loose fitting) are the only things we can wear - I live in Houston with a daily heat index of near 100 degrees F in the summer, and its unpleasant to wear regular fitting clothing most days. I dunno - I agree with alot of what you said though.

This thread is... weird. It might attract more female gamers to this board, though. :lol:

Anyway, rama, I think you're being too picky. I'm about James' size, and I can tell you that it's much easier to find 30-30 jeans/pants than 30-34 or 31-34. Last winter I had to special order my pants through Eddie Bauer because Dockers discontinued my size. :mad: America really has an obesity problem. It sucks that I'm suffering because everyone else is fat.

being picky makes me happy. once i do find that pair of jeans that fits me just right, i'll cherish'em for the rest of my life.

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Originally posted by rama
i think there might be a few h&m's around here. just gotta figure out where they are.

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There is one in Georgetown at the Georgetown Mall.

I would suggest stopping by French Connection. Their style and cut is european which might fit you well, but they are a bit pricey.

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Originally posted by station82o
that may be an accurate description of Americans in general but for most of us who live in certain climates... those clothes at times (baggy and loose fitting) are the only things we can wear - I live in Houston with a daily heat index of near 100 degrees F in the summer, and its unpleasant to wear regular fitting clothing most days. I dunno - I agree with alot of what you said though.

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Obviously it's just a generality and a great many people are different from the stereotype... But I think Icepop was talking about Montréal in the middle of the winter when it's 20° below and you see people downtown in the most ridiculous outfits... and... no coat on! :wtf: It's hilarious and you really can pick out the American tourists almost instantly. They also talk really loud and say obnoxious things. :p

It gets plenty hot here in the summer (80s and 90s F with a lot of humidity) and people still manage to dress pretty stylishly - and the girls tend to wear hardly anything at all, which is wonderful!. ;)

Another thing she mentioned which is very true is the size difference in clothes. On average I would say that all clothes here are at least 25% smaller than they are in the States. Shopping is a totally different experience because of that... but on the whole I like it better simply because of the variety.

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Originally posted by icepop
I agree with sggg and sleeveboy on this one. Rama doesn't look gay, he just looks like he has some style and fashion sense. Seriously, you would fit in just right in Montréal. All the French (and English too) boys tend to have a lot of style.

You can always tell when there are Americans in town here because they dress so differently ... they are all in baggy faded blue jeans, backwards caps, sweatshirts, vests, and always somehow neglect to bring a coat in the dead of winter. They all look like drunk jocks. :lol:

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You obviously haven't seen me dress ^^

In CA, you can get away with looking fashionable. Heck, it's practically encouraged. Too bad I don't have the money for such clothes. Or maybe it's for the better.

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You obviously haven't seen me dress ^^

In CA, you can get away with looking fashionable. Heck, it's practically encouraged. Too bad I don't have the money for such clothes. Or maybe it's for the better.

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Well, I wasn't really taking a knock at all Americans or anything like that at. I was just poking fun at the American tourists who come here by the busload. Really, in the winter it can get pretty damn cold here ... what with all the stupid igloo, etc. jokes that Americans make you'd think they'd remember that in January Canada = cold and think to pack a coat. :lol:

There certainly is a difference in the way people dress and carry themselves in Canada vs. the US or even North America vs. Europe though. Just an observation. :)

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Originally posted by rama
being picky makes me happy. once i do find that pair of jeans that fits me just right, i'll cherish'em for the rest of my life.

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You ever try on a pair of Diesel's? I'm too big to wear them, but you should try on a pair. They seem to be skinny guy jeans.

I go baggy, myself. I lean towards Lucky's, Nautica's, and some Guess. When I just want to lounge, I'll throw on an old pair of Structure jeans. Everything else is too damn tight. You just can't wear tight jeans. That shit should be outlawed unless you're a female.

Go with Diesel or Silver jeans. I have pairs of them, they tend to be more accustomed to sleder figures. However, Diesel, Parasuco, etc. are quite pricey!

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Originally posted by Hero
You obviously haven't seen me dress ^^

In CA, you can get away with looking fashionable. Heck, it's practically encouraged. Too bad I don't have the money for such clothes. Or maybe it's for the better.

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dude, you got any thrift stores in your area? you can buy some really great clothes from thrift stores. i have a handful in this area. sometimes you can't find too many things that'd fit your style, but if you look hard enough you might come up with something. heh, most people that don't know me also think i have allot of money because of the way i dress. i usually buy my clothes on sale or at a thrift store. the best pair of jeans i've ever owned came from a thrift store...that was back in high school though.

Rama, have you ever tried a pair of Diesel Jeans? They are damn expensive, but they fit perfectly. Nothin fits better than Diesels, Nothing!!

I would say Diesel are the perfect jeans, but the price is outrageous. If you don't mind being made fun of, go to Express for Men, they're jeans fit well and look ok, but are not as high quality.

I also love A&F jeans, the barster flares are not too tight and hold up well.

I less have a problem with the fit of the jeans; rather than the pocket style. I always wanted a pair of jeans with two big ass pockets in the back (enough to hold a vhs tape) and cargo pockets on both sides; with a carpenters tool pocket on not only the right but on the left as well!

I also want a pony......preferably one with turbo jets and lazer eyes.

.....Im just sayin'

it would be nice....:)

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Originally posted by Gymkata
I also want a pony......preferably one with turbo jets and lazer eyes.

.....Im just sayin'

it would be nice....:)

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i've been wanting to check out some diesels, but yeah, they are a bit expensive.

I haven't worn jeans since Freshman year of high school.

after high school but before college i didn't wear jueans at all. just kahkis, dress and funky cargo pants.

OK...im probably way too lot to this conversation, and hell, I didnt read even half of it. But I thought it was the cool thing to look and act gay now? Either that or call it a rock n roll / indie look. I dont know, you could use it to your advantage. Or just say fuck it and dont care what people think and do what makes you the most confortable...that is probably the best solution.

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Originally posted by rama
i've been wanting to check out some diesels, but yeah, they are a bit expensive.

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Having to choose between paying extra $ for Diesels or wearing women's jeans is no choice at all. Dole out the fazoles.

They're nice jeans, but damn, they're some nutcutters.

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OK...im probably way too lot to this conversation, and hell, I didnt read even half of it. But I thought it was the cool thing to look and act gay now?

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eh, acting like something you're not was never cool. least i never thought it was.

i saw some jeans at the gap today. relaxed boot cut. W28 L30. think i might try'em out tomorrow.