Things that piss you off in games

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Originally posted by Compass
Oh my god, no, I disagree. Why don't they just give you the ending from the beginning then? Earning = satisfaction. That's why.

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Unlocking is mostly used as a really cheap way of adding artificial length to a game, and it is waaaaaaayyyyy more annoying than it is satisfying. Where is the satisfaction in gaining access to a song in DDR that just automatically opens after I play 75 other songs? It doesn't take any skill to play 75 songs. Just a lot of tedious time. I want to play "Max 300" and I want to play "Candy" and I want to play them now! Save unlockables for non-gameplay stuff if you want a rewards system, like extra costumes or something. The Fusion Suit in Metriod Prime is a great example. I could care less if I have access to it since it is only a graphics tweak, but it is pretty cool to have once I beat the game.

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Originally posted by xS
3. Cameras that can't be moved manually.

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I should have put that in my list as well.

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Originally posted by Chibi Nappa
Unlocking is mostly used as a really cheap way of adding artificial length to a game, and it is waaaaaaayyyyy more annoying than it is satisfying. Where is the satisfaction in gaining access to a song in DDR that just automatically opens after I play 75 other songs? It doesn't take any skill to play 75 songs. Just a lot of tedious time. I want to play "Max 300" and I want to play "Candy" and I want to play them now! Save unlockables for non-gameplay stuff if you want a rewards system, like extra costumes or something. The Fusion Suit in Metriod Prime is a great example. I could care less if I have access to it since it is only a graphics tweak, but it is pretty cool to have once I beat the game.

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I don't see it that way at all. The better something is the more rewarding it will be when I lock it. A whole extra 50% of the game? Fine! That would rule to unlock something so substantial. And even if there was something I really wanted and didn't want to put in the time to unlock it, most of the time there's a cheat code I could use (I'm assuming because I've never actually been in this situation).

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Originally posted by Mikey
Hard to be specific about this kind of thing but I haven't come across a game yet that has succeeded in its goal of conjuring emotions and even if they could it wouldn't increase your enjoyment of the game.

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That's unfortunate for you, and not true for me.

Still, I'll throw you some props for the Molasar avatar.

-bad story development
-bad character development
-horrible controls
-boring character design
-bad sound effects/music
-choppy framerate
-lack of replay value
-linear design (unless it's got substance, I can't stand it)
-lack of gaming extras (unlockable content)
-pointless cut scenes use to drive the story which were better left out of the game. (look we can make FMV, let's throw it in there just for the hell of it)

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Originally posted by Mikey
Hard to be specific about this kind of thing but I haven't come across a game yet that has succeeded in its goal of conjuring emotions and even if they could it wouldn't increase your enjoyment of the game.



How is it this doesn't get the STFU newbie treatment? :chick: Even forgetting about the fact that laughter, anger, suspense, etc. are all emotional states widely accepted to be evoked by games. Why is sadness or sympathy/empathy (what I'm assuming the author meant when he said "emotion") exempt?

I've never before disagreed so whole-heartedly with a single sentence on a message board (and I used to be a regular at GameFAQs).

[edit]: added the cheeky bit about gamefaqs.

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Originally posted by Compass
Even forgetting about the fact that laughter, anger, suspense, etc. are all emotional states widely accepted to be evoked by games.

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These replies seem to be the lashings out of people who cried during Final Fantasy 7. They cried during a cut-scene, of course, not during proper gameplay.

I cried when I played Captain Novolin.:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

• Controllers without 6 accessable face buttons. FOR GOD'S SAKE, IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE STREET FIGHTER II, IS IT THAT FREAKING HARD?
  
• Shitty d-pads. When systems from 10 years ago have better pads, there are obviously some incompetent engineers out there.
  
• Fighting games without user profiles. Aside from the fact that keeping track of wins/losses is cool, if you're going to put 6 attack buttons in your game and then map them to a controller designed for people who start to sweat when asked to count past 3, it's absolutely criminal to make players reconfigure the buttons to their liking every time the controller gets passed.
  
• RPG heroes who can stand up to universe-destroying evil, but never get around to asking out the cute girl they've been camping out with for two months because they're too nervous. If designers think I'm supposed to identify with this, I'm insulted.
  
• The fact that no Japanese rpg can star anything other than a 16 year old boy.
  
• Endings that suck. While your game may be good, if I get a we-ran-out-of-time 30 second copout ending followed by 8 minutes of credits set against a black screen, I'll walk away feeling cheated.
  
• Sports games that claim downloadable rosters and player rankings, and then never get around to it. And when they finally do let you download the week 17 NFL roster in march, they totally mess up the player rankings. For example, in NFL 2K3: Why does Michael Bennett, a 1,000 yard rusher, only rank a 78? And by extension, why is the Vikings running game, ranked #2 in the NFL, stuck at 28th in the game?
  
• Bad front ends. Unreal's on Xbox sucks. Why can't I just pick "split screen multiplayer" from the start? Sega sports' last year was an impenetrable maze of bizarre euphemisms and endless text submenus. It doesn't take a genius to make those things make sense.
  
• Poorly monitored online games. I don't expect a police state with a 1:1 mod to player ratio, but the fact that droppers get away with no punishment whatsoever in CvS2 and the fact that nobody does anything about dupers and haXX0rz in most online games sucks. It's nothing more than a sign that publishers think it doesn't matter and they can get away with just collecting subsciption fees, but it really does ruin the experience unless you're always playing with friends, and chases away people who have better things to do than waste their time with that garbage.

Guh. I could go on for hours, but I'll stop there.

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Originally posted by Mikey
Hard to be specific about this kind of thing but I haven't come across a game yet that has succeeded in its goal of conjuring emotions and even if they could it wouldn't increase your enjoyment of the game. And it's mostly during a cutscene that they try to shock you or break your heart with some crushing plot twist and a cut-scene is not even a real part of the game 'cos you're not controlling it. And when you are in proper control of the game you're concentrating too hard to feel those other emotions. They're mutually exclusive things; the concentration and the emotion.

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You are wrong. Play Shenmue II.

Sloppy programming. I've noticed that in Swingerz Golf, if you try to cut across water/out of bounds by too much (meaning the game thinks it's too much) it will FUCK YOU over. I've hit perfect shots that should go a good 180 yards, but it goes 70 and into the drink because some dumb bastard programmer didn't get it right. Really annoying.