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30 Jul 2003, 09:47 PM
voltz

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

How come PSO is always labeled as a Diablo clone yet Sonic isn't called a Mario clone or Half-Life isn't called a Wolfenstein 3d clone?

Well, sonic did a good job branching out from the steriotypical action plaform genre that mario still dominates. Can't comment on half-life (haven't played it) :chick:

But when it comes down to PSO, looking at the random caves/rooms, coming back to the same town, etc etc. I've played both and I was horribly dissapointed at how much this game tries to copy blizzard's work with a 3D perspective and a popular franchise name. Sure they add quests, but I was waiting to explore a 3D world much like the ones we've seen in previous PS, but they took the easy route with this!

That's why the next PSO (not episode III) had better be the real thing, otherwise there's other RPG's with worlds to explore just waiting for me.
30 Jul 2003, 09:52 PM
Mairu

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Originally Posted by Kinopio

Sonic Team didn't make Sonic Shuffle.

Yes, NiGHTS is the most overated game of all time, and yes, SA2 is an average game, but I fail to see how the two great games UGA has made puts them in a league above Sonic Team. Sonic Team is the 2nd most accomplished team SEGA has, by far.

So you're saying because UGA isn't in a league above Sonic Team, Sonic Team is excellent?
30 Jul 2003, 10:27 PM
Johnny Nighttrain

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

They made 3 games, 2 of which were truly awesome. There was alot of promise there, and they were really exploring the medium as anartform in a way few others were. I really wanted to see big things come from them. I don't think their ideology will mesh well with Sonic Team's management, but I hope Miziguchi's influence remains strong.

nicely said.

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Originally Posted by Captain Canuck

If Naka is going to AM2, then Mizuguchi's probably taking over Sonic Team. So it's going to be UGA with sonic team coders. That's good, although they still have to make a Sonic game once in awhile. Nothing wrong with that though.

huh, i can't believe i never thought of that. he's got a point. hey, looks like there's a chance of getting a good Sonic game this generation after all.

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Originally Posted by Mairu

A little later, Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure comes out for NGPC. In my opinion, the last good Sonic platform game. No hate from me towards this game!

Sonic Team didn't make that. Dimps did.

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Originally Posted by Mairu

Their next game was Sonic Shuffle.

didn't Travellers Tale make that?

didn't continue to read the rest of your post Mairu since im assuming it was you being wrong over and over again about games that Sonic Team didn't develop, and probably had no point to it to top it off.

as for Sonic Team vs UGA, well, the only recent Sonic Team games that im a fan of are PSO and ChuChu. aside from that they haven't made anything good since Sonic 2. i really like PSO a lot though, but not more than Rez. PSO is easily Sonic Teams best game ever though.
30 Jul 2003, 10:41 PM
Captain Canuck

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Originally Posted by voltz

Well, sonic did a good job branching out from the steriotypical action plaform genre that mario still dominates. Can't comment on half-life (haven't played it) :chick:

But when it comes down to PSO, looking at the random caves/rooms, coming back to the same town, etc etc. I've played both and I was horribly dissapointed at how much this game tries to copy blizzard's work with a 3D perspective and a popular franchise name. Sure they add quests, but I was waiting to explore a 3D world much like the ones we've seen in previous PS, but they took the easy route with this!

That's why the next PSO (not episode III) had better be the real thing, otherwise there's other RPG's with worlds to explore just waiting for me.

A 3D perspective compared to a top down one makes all the difference in the world. Not to mention that PSO is more like a beatemup. The move variety is pretty low for a beatemup though.
30 Jul 2003, 10:47 PM
Mairu

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Originally Posted by Lucas Barton

nicely said.

huh, i can't believe i never thought of that. he's got a point. hey, looks like there's a chance of getting a good Sonic game this generation after all.

Sonic Team didn't make that. Dimps did.

didn't Travellers Tale make that?

didn't continue to read the rest of your post Mairu since im assuming it was you being wrong over and over again about games that Sonic Team didn't develop, and probably had no point to it to top it off.

as for Sonic Team vs UGA, well, the only recent Sonic Team games that im a fan of are PSO and ChuChu. aside from that they haven't made anything good since Sonic 2. i really like PSO a lot though, but not more than Rez. PSO is easily Sonic Teams best game ever though.

Sonic Team not making sonic for ngpc just further proves my point in sonic team and while I may have made 2 mistakes I fail to see how that invalidates my complete post.

I guess the only way to get real responses is to stop bothering to add content to my posts and just reply with witty one-liners or emoticons. You're so amazing, TNL!

edit- and anyways Dimps worked on Sonic Advance and SNK did the NGPC sonic, omg you quoted the wrong part or were just mistaken! your whole post must be filled with false information!
30 Jul 2003, 10:54 PM
sggg

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Originally Posted by Mairu

edit- and anyways Dimps worked on Sonic Advance and SNK did the NGPC sonic, omg you quoted the wrong part or were just mistaken! your whole post must be filled with false information!

Actually, Dimps made Sonic Pocket and both Sonic Advances.
30 Jul 2003, 10:58 PM
Mairu

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Originally Posted by sggg

Actually, Dimps made Sonic Pocket and both Sonic Advances.

Ahh, guess I should stop getting my information from ign then :P
30 Jul 2003, 11:57 PM
Jeremy

If memory serves, the only Sonic Team involvement on the Sonic Advance games was that of an advisory role. Dimps handled the primary development duties for the games, as has been noted before.
31 Jul 2003, 03:08 AM
ferricide

my apathy towards sega grows strong. show us the fucking games, and i'll get re-interested. and i used to be such a fan! =P

which reminds me that we got a preview copy of billy hatcher in. w00t. the one upcoming sega game i'm actually interested in right now.
31 Jul 2003, 03:45 AM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by Kinopio

Whats with the Sonic Team hate? Their games always have awesome music and are more visually stylized than the games from any other SEGA team. They've been shit lately, but overall they are excellent.

Any other besides UGA. It's a good fit. Well, Smilebit had thier talent too.

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