Is this a step in the right direction, or an infringement upon an age old statute?
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Is this a step in the right direction, or an infringement upon an age old statute?
My gut reaction says no to this. I may change my mind given Biblical proof that says I'm wrong. But surely being a Christian is about being more like jesus, and that's not possible being a practising homosexual. (practising being the key word here - I assume he is).
Stop thinking like your parent's generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikorasu
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that remark. If you mean I should be more accepting of gay people you should know that I used to live with a housemate who is a lesbian and know many and have worked with many more.
I don't judge them, I treat them as any other person of any walk of life. But if you're asking me whether a practisng homosexual can be a Christian, I'm not entirely sure, but I seem to recall it being pretty clear in the Bible that it's incompatible. But I am open to the posibility that I'm wrong.
DISCLAIMER: THE OPINIONS AND VIEWS EXPRESSED HEREIN ARE NOT NECESSARITY THOSE OF THE POSTER, BUT ARE EXPRESSED IN AN ATTEMPT TO GENERATE INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikorasu
Try this on for size:
Every time homosexuality is mentioned in the Bible, it is in the context of idol worship. Is it then to be said that all homosexuality is a form of idol worship, or that it is only wrong in the context of idol worship?
Also, the biggest spiritual argument against homosexuality is that out of wedlock, sex is fornication. Which would mean that if homosexuals were alowed to marry, fornication wouldn't be a problem any more.
How about a practicing gossiper being Christian, or a practicing "luster?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikorasu
Interesting, but i've no real idea how to respond to that without knowing the traditional christian argument as to why homosexuals can'tmarry each other.
I'm not coming out against you, Nick. Just facilitating thought. ;)
Typically they respond with "it's an abomination in the eyes of the LORD."Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikorasu
Which is true. But that quote is in the context of idolitry.
And PM me, dude. It's been a while.
There are two men at my church that are gay. They are accepted by everyone there. Why should God not accept them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikorasu
What I meant by my comment is that society changes and church and religion need to learn how to keep up with the changes. Not everything written 2000 years ago can be applied today, in a society where homosexuality is become more accepted every day.
Because as far as I've always been led to believe (which as I'll keep pointing out could be false) homosexuality as The Vegmeister puts it is an abomination in the Lord's eyes.
Now so is murder, swearing etc. Could a murderer be a Christian? Yes of course, but I doubt he'd be welcome in a church if he carried on murdering people. The thing about being a Christian is trying not to sin (partly).
How can an openly practising homosexual person get into a relationship and have to repent every five minutes for abhoring God while in it? Fine if he or she is homosexual but abstains from a partner... someone in my church has done just that. No issue there. But to be openly gay and practising, and a Bishop especially. Well I'm not sure.
Even if those things written 2000 years ago came directly from God Himself, through a mouthpiece? Isn't that diluting the potence and importance of relegion in the first place?Quote:
Originally Posted by kabuki