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Dragon Warrior I is one of those ancient rpgs I'd say holds up well, if you can get into the lack of story, battle strategy, etc. It's got a couple of tough puzzles (ah, the stones of sunlight), a really charming soundtrack, world and set of characters, but mostly it's one of the best progressing and laid out rpgs I've ever played. I've probably finished it 3 or 4 times over the years. Of course, it is pretty spartan in this day & age, so I can understand why people wouldn't get into it.
I always wondered why PS2 totally kicked my ass everytime I rented it. The damn rental didn't have instructions or a map :\ That damn dam dungeon was a monster (or as I remember it).
Old games are still good because they,
1) Revolutionized something
2) Inspire nostalgia
I still love FFIV because of the true active battle system. Even FFVI didn't implement it properly - the same characters went in the same order and all spells and attacks took the same amount of time. The battle in FFIV is still the peak of the series to me. I hate the new turn based nonsense with two party members and fifteen minute call spells with silly movie style cameras and enemies devoid of detail short of a hasty texture mapping. I still think the enemies in FFVI look better than the ones in the new Super Cool 3D NextLeVeLoFgraPhiCs!! RPGs today.
Beh. I don't really play ture (console) RPGs anymore, anyway.
Yeah, if anything ever solidified your idiocy it's that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Sorry dude, but you know nothing.
Wow, you couldn't be any more wrong. PC RPGs are rarely anything other than a dressed up FPS' or D&D/Gauntlet dungeon crawlers. Don't get me wrong, they're fun, but there aren't many RPGs out there on PC at don't fall into the afore mentioned catagories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentaochstoffe
Looking at some recent RPGs you can see many a new or interesting mechanic to play arround with. Golden Sun (yes, the GBA is a portable console) for instance had tons of puzzles that relied on your magic in order to manipulate them. AFAIK this was the first time a mechanc as refined as this had been used. Suikoden had a myriad of different battle modes that you needed to master in order to play through it succesfully. Star Ocean 2 was among the first, if not the first, to have a system by which your parties feelings towads you (and each other)effected how they acted in battle as well as determining which of the multiple endings you'd recieve. If anything console RPGs are at the forefront of progression.
>Mechdeus
Thanks for filling me in.
>Bent
Well, FF9 was interesting because of Kuja and the whole plot after the second half of the 3rd CD. But did one have fun looking out for items or cards? Did one have fun (I mean except a few laughters at the text here and then) within the game, at certain dungeons or mini games? I didn't. The game was cool to play, it had an OK story with a few good plot twists, and there were enough things to interest me into playing the game through. I did even play it twice or 3 times, but I didn't have "fun".
Now take Xenogears, I could spend 2 hours in the sand island and have fun trashing the dragons. Or I could play PS2 and have fun because the story is just soooo good. Or I could pop Y's in and explore the mines at level 1. THAT'S fun. Plus the music is fantastic. ;)
>Gutsman : "Any monster can be defeated if you have enough XP."
Nope. Omega Weapon in FF5. Omega Weapon in FF8. The super hard robots in BoF3. You need the xp up to a certain point, but you also need to know your magic tables and other weakpoints and odd stuffs. Those are exceptions though, I'll give you that.
My favourite part is how you can fit the entire script on a single page. Double spaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saffran
Doesn't mean it's not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I've said it before in this thread, and I'll say it again. Use your imagination (that so-often-neglected wonder of humanity) and you'll find that PSII (and, even, PSIII) has more fantastic set pieces than most of the Final Fantasies put together.
So if I use my imagination... the first Dragon Warrior has a better plot that the entire LoTR trilogy combined!:p
My personal feelings as far as LOTR are concerned would mean that I would agree with this, but disregarding that, I'm pretty sure you're being facetious. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xS
If the first Dragon Warrior, as you envisage it in your head, has a better plot than Lord of the Rings then... yes. What do you want me to say? It's all a question of interpretation and imagination.
All of these RPG stories are shoved down your throat. If the games were a little less linear, I might be tempted to sit back and think about them.=\