Your system for shmups...

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Originally Posted by Lucas Barton

guys, seriously, stop being so retarded. i can't believe people on this board are actually arguing other wise.

like really, what's next? Gran Turismo fits in the casino genre?

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Umm, I know it's hard for you to accept, but people do have opinions different than your own. ;)

How then, would you classify games like Space Harrier or Thunderblade? The axis of movement is different, yes, but so what? The axis of movement is different for vertical shmups than it is for horizonatal ones. What's the difference? You fly a ship/person thingie and shoot everything that moves, collecting powerups along the way, until you reach a boss. You dodge bullets and obstacles too. The whole twitch thing is there. It's the same thing.

They told me in the other thread Twinkle Tale didn't count as a shmup :(

I just say shooter when the bitch starts mouthing off at me.

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Originally Posted by Lucas Barton

guys, seriously, stop being so retarded. i can't believe people on this board are actually arguing other wise.

like really, what's next? Gran Turismo fits in the casino genre?

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You might have a point if any of the games you're bringing up had any sort of close relation to what you're pairing them with. However, unlike anything you've said, Space Harrier is arguably relevant.

I've yet to hear a classification that satisfies all concerned. But, my working rule: if you have to ask, it's probably not.

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Originally Posted by Melf

How then, would you classify games like Space Harrier or Thunderblade?

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On-Rails Shooters. Precursors to Panzer Dragoon, Rez, etc. I believe games like this belong in the overall "shmup" category, but they are different and need distinction as such.

The PC-Engine gets my vote for best shooter system. Price of software was definitely a factor in my choice - Saturn's great and everything, but I only own a few shooters for it 'cause they're normally expensive as hell. I've acquired about a dozen for my Duo, all of them bargain-priced except for Star Parodier.

Japanese PS2 with Saturn a close second. You have a back catalog there from the PS1, there are some shmups out now (Psyvariar Complete, DDP-DOJ, Gradius III & IV, XII Stag to name a few), and Gradius V will probably hit sooner in Japan (The NA release date of 2/11/04 is a bit far off for me).

I'll be boring and say Saturn...

Battle Garegga
Dodonpachi
Radiant Silvergun

What more could a boy want?

MAME, but my fave console for shmups is actually my DC. Small selection, but impecable quality. Can't wait for Border Down.