Casualties also includes those wounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutsman
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Casualties also includes those wounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutsman
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Would a soldier who trips over some rocks and dislocates his elbow count as wounded? Just wondering...
Yes he would. A soldier from PR had a tire fall on his head and kill him (have you ever seen the tires on those vehicles? They're huge!). He was listed as KIA.
Arafat is no more a terrorist then Sharon is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Carter
Both are however elected leaders who seem to enjoy the backing of their respective men in the street.
As for killing him, despite the hatred Stone must no doubt feel in his hart for Arafat he would never say what you are saying here simply becouse he is smarter then you are.
Pandoraīs box would be opened if Arafat was assasinated by Israel, any sane person knows that and much to youre dislike the US government at the moment is pressurising Israel as hard as they can to spare Arafatīs life.
I've got to say that I think Arafat going "sleepy-bye" (as Hulk puts it in Toyfare theater) would be a great thing.
However, I think Almaci's right about not killing him. Not a good idea. Good thing = Arafat falling down a few flights of stairs and dieing. Bad thing = Doing so after having been shot by Israeli sniper.
Stone's gonna shoot you for calling Sharon a terrorist, though. Hehe. :)
Before Israel was formed he was part of a terror squad wich killed scores of Palestines in what is now Israel, he was found guilty by his own government for the sabra and chatila massacres and troughout his life has lived to terrorise the Palestinians away from the land they have always lived on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
Yah he is at least as big a terrorist as Arafat ever was.
See, this is why you aren't taken seriously. Instead of trying to maturely or seriously debate, you resort to some sort of namecalling; trying to tarnish the other guy's image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Calliander, despite often seeing the issues differently, is fun to debate with because he isn't cheap. He's truly interested in stimulating, intellectual conversation; whereas you seem only interested in driving your opinion into everyone's skull, and if they don't agree, you start calling names.
I was about to say the exact same thing. Sharon, in my opinion, is one of the world's leading terrorists. It's ridiculous that he killed all of those people (with gas if I remember correctly) and now he's the president of the country. At least Bush waited until he was in office to start his terrorists campaign. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
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Ignoring the fact that Sharon, as others have mentioned is a terrorist and war criminal himself, killing Arafat would be the true opening of Pandora's Box. I will not deny that Arafat has links to terrorism and most likely has guided Hamas and other in their attacks, or at least turned a blind eye to them. But do you really think that giving Hamas and the PLO another martyr would make the situtation better? Do you want to see all out war in the region? Do you want to see the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians and Israelis?Quote:
I do not want to open this Pandora's box, as I am sure it will stir heated debate, but... Arafat is a terrorist and like a terrorist, he must be destroyed. Simply expelling him would do nothing but make his area of influence larger than it already is.
Arafat is one of the biggest obstacles to peace in that region; he does nothing to stop terrorism at all and, in fact, promotes it.
There's a reason the Bush administration doesn't want Israel to "remove" Arafat.
Assasinating him will only make the situation worse. Is that what you want, Carter?
Yeah. You tell him, you ugly, pompous, unintelligent boor. Put down that crackpipe, crackie! Yo momma's so fat, she literally sits around the house! Yo momma's so poor, you walk in her front door and you're in the back yard. BOO YAH! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Carter
No, he wants Bibi Netanyahu back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolffen