Please help me fix this crappy Windows machine

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15 Sep 2003, 02:45 PM
sphere79

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Originally Posted by Schlep

Somewhere along the line people read into the thread that I cared what anyone thought about my hatred of working with PC's...dunno where they got that idea.

Working with PC's, or working with Windows? You know there are other more stable, fully functioning PC OS's.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

No, I blame dolts like you who went out and bought a PC instead of a Mac. ;)

Well, first off I didn't BUY it so much as build it. Second of all, if I could run OS X on x86 architecture I would give it a try - but that's Apple's fault. Thier own control over the hardware is what partly makes them more "reliable" in general ( less possible hardware configurations ) and also creates the limited software catalog. Don't blame it on me, blame it on Apple for not either A: Licensing hardware rights to a select group of manufacturers ( therefore lowering costs by creating competition ) or B:Simply releasing an x86 compatible OS. Apple could easily have increased marketshare, and it's not Bill Gates or Microsoft's fault - it's thier own.
15 Sep 2003, 02:45 PM
JMET

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Originally Posted by Wildkat

yep, then I keep my windows XP CD protected by about $700 in CASH

Youll need that $700.00 cash for repairs and tech support.. :chick:
15 Sep 2003, 02:46 PM
Schlep

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMET

Its not a matter of if we thought you cared, its a matter of you being wrong and being corrected.

Being wrong about what?
15 Sep 2003, 02:48 PM
JMET

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphere79

Do you personally blame Steve Jobs when you go to the store and there's dick for software in the Mac section?

Misconception #1 by the Mac confused...

Only Gaming software is not as easily obtained on the Mac as opposed to Windows.

Everything else can be done without a problem or lack of software...

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Originally Posted by Schlep

Being wrong about what?

Blaming Microsoft and Bill Gates as a catch all excuse for not owning an XP cd and your inabillity to fix your own PC problems...

I dont want this to be a pissing contest because I think your a good guy, however you cant blame them for issues that they have no control over simply because its popular to do so..
15 Sep 2003, 02:51 PM
Schlep

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMET

Blaming Microsoft and Bill Gates as a catch all excuse for not owning an XP cd and your inabillity to fix your own PC problems...

I never blamed Microsoft for me not having an XP CD. I blame Microsoft because I shouldn't be in the middle of doing something, and then the OS cuts out with an unrecoverable error that it can't even fix by itself without formatting the hard drive and reinstalling the operating system.

If you think that isn't reason to blame Microsoft, you've used Windows too long.
15 Sep 2003, 02:54 PM
JMET

Sounds like software your running or the hardware you are using has the problem.

XP is fine, its the garbage that you put it on or put in it that causes problems.

But without writing down the exact error you got its hard to troubleshoot it. ;)

The cd should fix the issue..
15 Sep 2003, 02:58 PM
Schlep

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMET

Sounds like software your running or the hardware you are using has the problem.

XP is fine, its the garbage that you put it on or put in it that causes problems.

But without writing down the exact error you got its hard to troubleshoot it. ;)

The cd should fix the issue..

All I was running at the time was Subspace. I've not heard of anyone else having any problem like this with it ever. Even if it was somehow related, an OS that lets individual files corrupt, delete or overwrite critical system files and doesn't even have a backup to replace it with already on the system...sucks, imo.
15 Sep 2003, 02:59 PM
JMET

Was this an XP upgrade from win98?

Is it a dual boot?
15 Sep 2003, 03:00 PM
Schlep

No, it had XP on it when I bought the computer.
15 Sep 2003, 03:04 PM
JMET

This behavior can occur if any or some of the following conditions are true:
The Default value in the [Boot Loader] section of the Boot.ini file is missing or invalid.
Windows XP is not installed in the location specified in the Boot.ini file.
The Ntoskrnl.exe file is missing or damaged.
The partition path in the Boot.ini file is not set correctly.
General hardware failure.
RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, use either of the following methods.
Method 1
Edit the Boot.ini file to restore or correct the Default entry and to ensure that the other entries in the [Operating Systems] section of the Boot.ini file point to the appropriate directories.
For additional information about how to edit the Boot.ini file, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

289022 HOW TO: Edit the Boot.ini File in Windows XP

Method 2
Use the Bootcfg utility in the Recovery Console to correct the Boot.ini file:
Use the Windows XP CD-ROM to start your computer.
When you receive the message to press R to repair Windows by using the Recovery Console, press the R key.
Select the Windows installation that you want, and then type the administrator password when prompted.
Type bootcfg /rebuild, and then press ENTER.
When the Windows installation is located, the following instructions are displayed:

Add installation to boot list? (Yes/No/All)
[Type Y in response to this message.]

Enter Load Identifier:
[This is the name of the operating system. Type Windows XP Professional or Windows XP Home Edition.]

Enter OS Load options:
[Leave this field blank, and then press ENTER].

After you perform the preceding steps, restart the computer, and then select the first item on the boot menu. This should allow Windows XP to start normally.

After Windows XP has successfully loaded, the Boot.ini can be modified to remove the incorrect entry.
For additional information about how to edit the Boot.ini file, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

289022 HOW TO: Edit the Boot.ini File in Windows XP

Method 3
Start the computer by using your Windows XP CD-ROM. Press any key to boot from the CD.
After the setup files are finished loading press R to repair using Recovery Console.
When you are in the recovery console, select the installation to log on to (usually number 1), and then press ENTER.
Login to the Administrator account by typing the password for this account, and then press ENTER.
At the recovery console command prompt, type the following command, and then press ENTER:

For Uni-Processor systems:

expand cd-rom:\i386\ntoskrnl.ex_ drive:\Windows\system32

For Multi-Processor systems:

expand cd-rom:\i386\ntkrnlmp.ex_ drive:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

Cd-rom is the drive letter of your CD-ROM drive, and drive is the drive letter of the hard disk on which windows is installed.
If you receive a prompt to overwrite the file

If you print that out it may help when you get the CD,

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