SNK - Getting its act together?

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28 Sep 2003, 04:02 PM
Hero

SNK - Getting its act together?

Let me know if I've got my facts straight:

-SNK is releasing SvC Chaos, Metal Slug 4, and a KoF: 2001/2002 pack all on the PS2.

-SNK is going to use Atomiswave hardware for upcoming games

-The 3D KoF will use Atomiswave.

Now, I dunno if I'm grabbing at straws, but it feels like SNK is starting to get its act together. I mean, it's good enough that they're so adamant about putting their games on a popular console (PS2), but the turnaround time for SvC Chaos is remarkable. Normally, a Neo game has to be out eons before it comes out on another system (okay, maybe not THAT long...). And the 3D KoF? I'm estactic about it - moan all you want about the ills of 3D, or the fact that SNK has never done anything good in 3D, or that it 'ruins' KoF, but they are trying something new. Branching out, moving into other venues - the fact that they are finally working on hardware other than AES/MVS is enough to have me dancing.

Now, if SNK can pull out some good stuff, not rely solely on KoF, and try its hand at hi res 2D...*drool*

I'm hopefully optimistic. Who's with me?
28 Sep 2003, 04:18 PM
Taito

I was wondering, anyone know if online fan artist Falcoon is working for Playmore now? They mentioned his name an awful lot during their TGS presentation.
28 Sep 2003, 04:33 PM
Click_Stick

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Originally Posted by Hero

-SNK is going to use Atomiswave hardware for upcoming games

I don't believe they ever announced that they are going to adopt the Atomiswave for all of their projects, but of course... it is pretty much headed that way, it seems. But you never know with this damn company.

Taito - Excellent. What in particular did they say about Falcoon? They really need to dump that SvC / KoF 2002 / etc. artist and put Falcoon at the reigns.
28 Sep 2003, 04:35 PM
The Bastard

KOF 3D = PS2

Atomiswave might be a one time deal. It's just a rumor those so don't take it too seriously.

I think Falcoon is freelance...not sure.

SNK is sure making a lot of games recently. Hopefully if these next few projects make a profit, they'll be able to hire more people and become a force again.
28 Sep 2003, 04:39 PM
Recap

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Originally Posted by Hero

-SNK is releasing SvC Chaos, Metal Slug 4, and a KoF: 2001/2002 pack all on the PS2.

Nope. They're releasing a KOF00/01 pack in the US. KOF02 and MS4 are still to be officially announced.

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Originally Posted by Hero

-SNK is going to use Atomiswave hardware for upcoming games

Nope. They just licenced Sammy to make a new KOF.

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Originally Posted by Hero

-The 3D KoF will use Atomiswave.

Nope. It'll use PS2.
28 Sep 2003, 04:44 PM
Kidnemo

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Originally Posted by Taito

I was wondering, anyone know if online fan artist Falcoon is working for Playmore now? They mentioned his name an awful lot during their TGS presentation.

That would be awesome.
28 Sep 2003, 04:47 PM
padman

Unless they make something else apart from one on one fighters I don't care what they do.
29 Sep 2003, 01:43 AM
salmonax

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Originally Posted by Recap

Nope. They're releasing a KOF00/01 pack in the US. KOF02 and MS4 are still to be officially announced.

I've played a lot of 2002, but not 2000 or 2001. Will it worth the $40 price tag?
29 Sep 2003, 01:55 AM
FX

I'd think so. KOF 2000 is well worth the money, but 2001 is another case.

It's the worst overall KOF by far, but at least they are improving it by replacing those Sega Genesis-quality backgrounds with 3-D ones, and hopefully they'll include a remix alternative for those sucky BGMs. On the good side, the characters control like butter.

I plan to pick up the package deal regardless, just to show some support.
29 Sep 2003, 02:03 AM
Josh

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Originally Posted by FighterX

I plan to pick up the package deal regardless, just to show some support.

Count me in.
29 Sep 2003, 02:13 AM
Johnny Undaunted

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Originally Posted by Hero

-SNK is releasing SvC Chaos, Metal Slug 4, and a KoF: 2001/2002 pack all on the PS2.

They used to port their games on other consoles too before they became Playmore, but never bothered releasing them over here, letting other companies like Agetec and SCEA do it instead. But now they're doing it themselves
29 Sep 2003, 02:14 AM
AaronChance

KOF2k1 is still my favorite of the series, even if the backgrounds are shit and the music is just plain strange. When playing a low rez game with sprites that have been recycled almost a dozen times it's a little hard to care much about the graphics.

KOF2k is completely worthless, even if the backgrounds are better.
29 Sep 2003, 02:23 AM
ChaoofNee

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Same here, Hero. I'm pretty psyched over SNK getting their act together. Nice seeing some US releases for a change, too. Now, when games are censored and blood is turned to milk, we can yell at SNK DIRECTLY instead of bitching at Agetec.
The 2-KoF pack is gonna rule, mostly because those are the two I don't own on the Dreamcast yet. Any announcements on what special Dreamcast features making it to the PS2 port (past intros, past stages, puzzle game, etc)?
But, once again, this is all I have to say about 2k1:
29 Sep 2003, 03:27 AM
dog$

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

KOF2k is completely worthless

Hardly, but if you consider it such, what does that make 99? More worthless than worthless?

I'm still curious as to what's up with that Baseball Stars title.
29 Sep 2003, 07:21 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by dog$

Hardly, but if you consider it such, what does that make 99? More worthless than worthless?

Yes. Unless you really liked the boss or something.
29 Sep 2003, 10:50 AM
Dolemite

Metal Slug 4 is ass. SNK licensing third parties like Sammy to handle their key franchise (KOF) is lame. It hardly represents SNK getting it's act together for me. I am happy they're publishing Metal Slug 3 and SVC Chaos here, though. Now all they need is to get back their original development teams and start branching out from just fighting games again and I'll be happy. They need to become more creative and start creating new franchises in addition to reviving some old ones in order to become successful again.

And yeah, high res 2D would be nice...Capcom certainly doesn't wanna do it... :mad:
29 Sep 2003, 01:18 PM
Diff-chan

I wont believe that they got their act together until they stop releasing games on Neo-Geo completely.
29 Sep 2003, 01:51 PM
Shapermc

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

SNK licensing third parties like Sammy to handle their key franchise (KOF) is lame.

It is not like Eolith has done a better job. I would rather see sammy take it for a spin this upcomming year than Eolith.

Anyways, this KOF is not confirmed to be KOF2004 which would be their Key franchise.

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Originally Posted by padman

Unless they make something else apart from one on one fighters I don't care what they do.

So umm what do you consider Kof?
29 Sep 2003, 02:10 PM
mollipen

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Yes. Unless you really liked the boss or something.

Does this then progress farther, and make KOF'98 more worthless than a worthless item, that itself is more worthless than worthless?
29 Sep 2003, 02:20 PM
Gutsman

My faith in SNK will be restored when their game quality starts improving, not deteriorating. This hardware or that hardware makes no difference to me. It wasn't the hardware's fault that SvC Chaos sucked.
29 Sep 2003, 03:23 PM
padman

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Originally Posted by Shapermc

So umm what do you consider Kof?

Its umm a one on one fighter. Teams, tag, whatever. Its still a one on one fighter.
29 Sep 2003, 03:24 PM
bahn

too bad SvC is hella broken :chick:

*high fives Fighter X*

...give me some Metal Slug
29 Sep 2003, 04:28 PM
gameoverDude

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Originally Posted by Shapermc

It is not like Eolith has done a better job. I would rather see sammy take it for a spin this upcomming year than Eolith.

Anyways, this KOF is not confirmed to be KOF2004 which would be their Key franchise.

The thought of Sammy working on a KOF title is great. SNK should hire Falcoon and let him help out on this.

I wouldn't mind seeing a KOF title with linked 4P like Guilty Gear Isuka. Each player could choose two characters and reselect the order before each round. The 4 players would be 2 teams of 2- so each team would have 2 characters fighting for it at a time, taking this one out of the one-on-one model.

Some SNK franchises that aren't fighting games which I'd like to see return are Magician Lord (if they have this one near completion, it's time for them finish it up and quit sitting on it), Last Resort, and NAM-1975 (perhaps a prequel that takes place during the middle of the Vietnam War).
29 Sep 2003, 04:46 PM
Shapermc

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Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura

Magician Lord (if they have this one near completion, it's time for them finish it up and quit sitting on it)

That was an admitted lie by a US publicist to raise public intrest in the system. There are a few games that I would like to see released that there are known protos of.

Also I personally love one on one fighters more than any other system, but just so that Cabana Boy knows, the regular 3 on 3 play for KOF (A.k.a. 1on1) was ditched for 2003. What will be replaceing it was not stated.
29 Sep 2003, 05:34 PM
voltz

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Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura

I wouldn't mind seeing a KOF title with linked 4P like Guilty Gear Isuka. Each player could choose two characters and reselect the order before each round. The 4 players would be 2 teams of 2- so each team would have 2 characters fighting for it at a time, taking this one out of the one-on-one model.

I kinda like that idea, but I've had something else that worked more on the line of capcom's vs series by each player selecting 4 characters, then splitting into 2 teams each. Now the way this would work, team one would fight the first round, but if anyone in that team gets eliminated, that team is done (it's something like tekken tag's system) and at any time, you can "tag" your partner in VS style so you can help your teammate recover while the fresh player is going at it.

I think it's far more tactical this way, plus we can have 4 player groups back instead of just 3 with a striker.
29 Sep 2003, 05:51 PM
Shapermc

Sammy vs Capcom is roumered to be 4 on 4
29 Sep 2003, 06:45 PM
Josh

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Originally Posted by Gutsman

It wasn't the hardware's fault that SvC Chaos sucked.

No. Its your fault.

I enjoyed the game... its fun
30 Sep 2003, 01:40 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Metal Slug 4 is ass. SNK licensing third parties like Sammy to handle their key franchise (KOF) is lame. It hardly represents SNK getting it's act together for me. I am happy they're publishing Metal Slug 3 and SVC Chaos here, though. Now all they need is to get back their original development teams and start branching out from just fighting games again and I'll be happy. They need to become more creative and start creating new franchises in addition to reviving some old ones in order to become successful again.

The irony of your statement is Arc System Works (who essentially work for Sammy) were formed by people who left SNK. So if Arc did work on KOF, they would be getting back to their original dev teams.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Does this then progress farther, and make KOF'98 more worthless than a worthless item, that itself is more worthless than worthless?

No, because '98 was completely different. 2k is just '99 with more stuff to it. The systems are identical. And I personally feel the upgraded system in 2k1 is better than the one in 2k, making it worthless to me. '98 still has value because it uses an old system which I still like and has characters not seen in '99-2k1. Some showed up in 2k2, but I can't bring myself to like that KOF at all.
30 Sep 2003, 02:04 AM
Roufuss

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Originally Posted by Shapermc

Sammy vs Capcom is roumered to be 4 on 4

This rumor is about ten times better than any of SNK's real stuff at the moment, barring Samsho 0.
30 Sep 2003, 09:13 AM
mrdandy

I wish they'd give Mai a new outfit... We should have a "design new costumes for SNK" month in the Galleria, Hero :D.