Bush isnt, Bush is just a fun lil handpuppet.
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Bush isnt, Bush is just a fun lil handpuppet.
Leading up to the conflict, it was apparent to me that Bush was going in with or without Congress. After he made it clear that he would violate the War Powers Act, Congress just gave up and went along with it. Even Republicans were upset that Bush didn't go to Congress first.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
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What? That's serious conjecture on your part. I *highly* doubt that Congress "just gave up" - the Democrats haven't given Bush an inch and they certainly would've followed that plan had they felt that the war were TRULY baseless.Quote:
Originally Posted by spacecowboy
Ridiculous.
They felt it would be political suicide, a few of em did raise their concerns tough.
Former KKK members(pre empted ya hahahaha) Like senator Byrd have raised quite a ruckus.
They were? I wasn't aware of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by spacecowboy
Yes. Yes they were. WMD's, the threat of using them, the production of them, and the possibility of giving them to terrorists. The evidence presented to the U.N. was about WMD's, the SOTU address was about WMD's. The failure to comply concerned WMD's. Hussein being a jerk was about WMD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
OMG! You can't change your mind! There's no way anyone can be misquoted! That story about the NY Times guy who made up articles and quotes was fake! Nobody else does that! Hehe. Sorry, but Clark's "backtracking" is no different than Bush's. And Clark has not retracted that comment about the plan. Not to mention it's not something you would want to lie about and then be proven wrong for.Quote:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLI....clark.iraq.ap/
I beg to differ. As much of the SOTU address was about Saddam's non-compliance and the hint of what MIGHT BE, not what was, as was about stockpiles of WMD's. He had banned SCUD's, which WERE part of 1441, still in his arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
Had Hussein dropped his egotistical bullshit facade, perhaps none of this ever would've happened - but we will never know that conclusively one way or the other, regardless of what you and Almaci "know".
Dude - "Pot, Kettle, Black"Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
On one hand you criticize Bush for doing it and then you say that if Clark does it that it's normal. That doesn't work for me. I could care less what Clark starts spouting now that he's decided to run for president.
Next thing he'll say is that Bush "groped" him. ;)
That's true. I'm just saying that the people of Iraq were an afterthought. That's just the way it seems, the way I doubt the people in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
Actually, I said it's no different from Bush. Bush can backtrack all he wants, I don't care and I won't criticize him. I backtrack all the time, I can't fault anyone for that.Quote:
Dude - "Pot, Kettle, Black"
On one hand you criticize Bush for doing it and then you say that if Clark does it that it's normal. That doesn't work for me. I could care less what Clark starts spouting now that he's decided to run for president.
Hehe. Some guy called up Howard Stern the other day and said that Mary Kary groped him. Man, those allegations against Arnold were bull.Quote:
Next thing he'll say is that Bush "groped" him. ;)
Um, I think he means "intending to invade within the next 5 years", not "having plans around just in case something happens".Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
It's well known that the US military has plans in place on how to invade most countries around the world, Canada and Mexico included.
Haomaru, you might want to retract youre statement about SCUDS.
US Media with Fox on front reported on SCUDS and then took a week to rectify it after the US millitary admited it were Russian made frog missiles wich Iraq was allowed to have.
It was a pretty big argument back during the first week of the war.
IC tough that the objective was achieved, you DO believe they had SCUDS during GW2
Oh yeah, I remember the Frog thing.