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Why woudn't you be written up if you don't do your job?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Hopefully, your manager is cool and you wouldn't get written up, since the games were returned, but the fault is on you for not checking them.
What he said! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
I hate all of you, and would violently kill most of you if given the chance.
Please send all complaints to www.comcast.net
From some crazy Canada site after 15 layers of Google:Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../ca01495e.htmlQuote:
Unsolicited Goods
You are under no obligation to accept or pay for any merchandise you receive in the mail that you did not order. In most provinces and territories, when the sender asks for the merchandise back you must return it at the sender's expense; however, in some provinces and territories you cannot be required to pay for the goods or services unless you agreed to do so in writing. To complain about unsolicited goods, contact your provincial or territorial consumer protection agency.
So.... *shrug*
Argue morality and legality all you want -- it just wasn't your prerogative.
Great, so the law may be on his side - doesn't change the fact that it isn't morally right. As well, I'm not sure that this is meant to be covered under those laws. In those cases, it is protecting you from having to pay something that somebody sent to you out of the blue trying to get you to pay for them. In this case, it was a mistaked shipment, and the company (at least not initially) wasn't trying to get him to pay.
But, again - it may be legal, but it still isn't right.
damn, just wandered into this thread, and matt, doshi, and AFX are impressing the hell out of me. that is all. doshi said the golden words here, legal does not mean right, you may be free and clear legally, but is this really the way you want to be? The world you live in is shaped by your actions, i aint saying i wouldnt consider keeping them, but it goes beyond my religion, its just what is right and wrong,and what you really want to see yourself capable of doing.
I think I'm the only one of us who said anything about legality, which is why duder posted what he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
In light of his post, however, I'd say your reply is better than any I could have given.
AW, FUCK!
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I'm going to stop involving myself in online debates. I always make a hash of my point and have to sound like I'm back-peddling. Damn lack of clarity.
I wrote my previous post in haste (I, uh, was late for work) so I included stuff that was on my mind (from the last time I brought up this scenario) that wasn't supposed to be in there. The question wasn't supposed to be, "should I get written up?" It should have been, "I fucked up, and I get in trouble for doing something stupid. So, do you say "capitalize!" and "score!" knowing the sales guy could get in serious trouble. Or do you do the right thing and bring it back?"
*shakes head*
Legal or not that still was a shitty deal. I'd hate to think if I was smoking a joint out for a walk MVS wouldnt report me to the police because 'it ws the right thing to do'. i don't think anyone else can tell you what the right thing to do is.
Nope, not the same thing.
In your example, you are doing something to yourself alone.
In this case, a company is going to lose money over it and perhaps they should, but if it can be corrected and not get someone fired, then it should be told.
It's still not your prerogative.
Have you ever considered a career in by-law enforcement, Matt? You'd get to make people's lives miserable with petty calls over petty details, and -- here's the clincher! -- it would actually your business this way.
Also, 5 bucks says you have a police scanner and a tattered Batman costume in your closet. You know, just in case.
I give it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
People look at me weird, like the lady a few months ago that gave me 2 packs of smokes for the price of 1, and, when I said I only bought 1, she got this look of confusion. Then again, I think she was flirting...
I've paid with a 10 at Del Taco, gotten my food and change for a 20, and told them, on the spot that I paid with a 10 and returned the money.
If you've ever worked in a sales job, you'd likely empathise more and not be yelling 'score!'
It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mode7
When it's posted on a public forum, and all but yelled out in the town square, it is my perrogative to do what I think is right.
I didn't listen into a call from this kid, or read his E-mail, he made it public.
You can like it or hate it, but I'll do it again. Someone posts about beating their wife on here, I'd call the local police, if the story was true or not.
I don't feel the need to be in a position of authority over others, simply because I have certain moral standards.
No, it was a good call, I think. Hauling a grown man off by his ear-lobe like a kid caught stealing from a candy store and made to confess -- as though it'll make a single whit of difference. As though you were in any position to do such a thing.
Which is the sum of my point: it wasn't your place. It being on a public forum is an especially weak-wristed rationalization. Your morality is your own. Makes me sick to the core to see other people even presuming to enforce it on others.
I've got a hunch that this MVS fella is just an attention whore.
I'm not condoning or condemning Mindfield, but I have to say that that was a real bitch move MVS.
Shidoshi and MVS the morality police. What a joke. :\
and Shidoshi too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son of Bryce
Weirdest thing happened (and no I'm not joking) I got a second copy of a game today, I already got what I ordered a couple of days ago. I have to check if my card has been charged for it and what rules apply over here. If not then you better believe I'm keeping it. Strange..
Expect investigator MVS of the Morality Police to be knocking on your door soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by J2d
You better change all of your beliefs to mirror his or he'll throw a temper tantrum and tell on you.
:cry: :cry: "Mommy, J2d isn't playing fair!" :cry: :cry:
Does being a Morality Policeman allow him to get one of them ever-so-nifty shiny badges?
I think his ignore list is hampering justice to be served in this case.
Sarcasim aside, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, or forcing my morals on anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mode7
The public forum has everything to do with it.
A man stands up in a town meeting, says "I'm going to beat my wife tonight".
Some will say "Not my business"
Others will say "That's not cool" and alert the police.
And that's about the end of the topic.
There's a difference between spousal abuse and a guy thinking about keeping something that he didn't ask for.
There sure is.
In basic form, both are actions that directly affect another person (the wife, the shipper at the company) and I would feel compelled to act in either case.
That is the correlation.
When you eventually get a job, maybe you will develope some empathy.
Please let this thread die.
MVS, the last thing I want to see is someone lose their job over something as simple as human error. I'm saying that as someone who knows the price of that all too well. However, I don't think anyone should catch so much flak for simply saying that he got 11 extra copies of the game. Was it done in a bragging manner? Arguable point. With the pics being posted, it could be interpetted as bragging, or as simply offering proof to folks who might say that he was lying.
Ideally, he should contact Futureshop, let them know of their mistake, and see what they have to say about it. You did that for him, effectively doing it before he really had a chance to. I can see why you did it though, as there's a good chance he may never have.
First off, the guy shouldnt have posted this on a forum..
Second, if it was me I would have returned the games...
Third, it was none of MVS's friggen business...
The inevitable analogies during internet debates I don't mind so much -- but why do they always have to be such extreme, black and white examples?Quote:
A man stands up in a town meeting, says "I'm going to beat my wife tonight".
Well, gee! If I saw a wheelchair-ridden grandma being beat upside the head with a kitten on my front lawn, you bet I'd do something! And not only does this prove my point, but I think you will find it makes me a fundamentally better human being as well. End of discussion.
Also, did it ever occur to anyone that the person who filled this order -- oops! -- x 12 might actually deserve to be held accountable for their own mistake?
Very true, this isn't some teenage cashier giving $10 too much change. Whoever filled the order did it with criminal intent to the company or is a complete retard. In either case I really don't think he/she deserves to get off the hook because someone reported his/her mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mode7