Futureshop: Buy 1, get 11 free

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10 Oct 2003, 08:07 PM
Calliander

Hehe. You gotta admit, that picture would make a good "STFU NEWBIE!" edit. :)
10 Oct 2003, 08:11 PM
Jeremy

Callainder, it's not like he can just snap his fingers and make the copies appear back at Futureshop. This is a little different than just waltzing into a store and intentionally stealing 11 copies of a game because he had no intention of getting 11 extra copies. Should he return them? Yes. But he should let them know about their mistake before doing so.
10 Oct 2003, 09:15 PM
Calliander

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Should he return them? Yes. But he should let them know about their mistake before doing so.

Professor Obvious strikes again! Where's the "You suck at the intarnet" picture?!?

;)
10 Oct 2003, 09:25 PM
cka

Hmm. Chime-in: Everybody goes on about how the 11 copies of the game is $6-700. Meanwhile, the retail stores probably get them in bulk shipments at a discounted price (lets say $20 per copy.) That's only a $200 or so loss "to the company", and since he ordered them off the internet there's very little chance these would have ended up in a store. So, there's a $400 rift in the "loss", as everybody is putting it. $200 to a multibillion dollar company is some jerkoffs lunch.

Just thought I'd share that little bit of info...
10 Oct 2003, 10:05 PM
J2d

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Originally Posted by Mode7

For the record, I'd have sold the fuckers and bought myself a stack of PCBs. I may not have any morals, but at least I've got taste.

I'd do the same, though I'll keep my "mistake" for now and sell it on ebay in a couple of years.

Is it just me or are online retailers full of idiots, past two months I've gotten 2 full price games and a Star Trek deep space nine season 4 collection for free, all in all about 180$ in value, some of them could be actual freebies but I doubt it. There are certain stores and people that I would have notified at once if there would have been an error but none of those.
10 Oct 2003, 10:46 PM
Tones

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Well, he might not, but I on the other hand have no respect for potheads...

Then I guess you can't have any respect for MVS.

It's strange that Matt has the initiative to incriminalize someone that gets a few hundred dollars in free goods legally from a corporation that probably measures its losses in millions, not hundreds, yet openly mentions his usage of illegal drugs. Way to have selective morals.

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Originally Posted by MVS

Does it really matter if someone thinks any behavior is bad?

I don't mind what people think of me, if it works for me, then it's good.

I do think that pot should be legalized, but that would not cause me to smoke it anymore than I do right now.

Taken from this thread.

Matt, mindfield may cause a company to lose a little money, but he is legally bound to be able to. You, on the other hand, are causing another institution - the US government - losses by being apart of the illicit drug usage that is trying to be ousted. It costs money to search for drug suppliers and users, and you are/were apart of the people they are targetting.
10 Oct 2003, 11:00 PM
Jeremy

Ah, I totally forgot about MVS's pot usage. Maybe he was high when he was making all of those seemingly hypocritical posts.
10 Oct 2003, 11:54 PM
Captain Vegetable

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Originally Posted by cka

Hmm. Chime-in: Everybody goes on about how the 11 copies of the game is $6-700. Meanwhile, the retail stores probably get them in bulk shipments at a discounted price (lets say $20 per copy.) That's only a $200 or so loss "to the company", and since he ordered them off the internet there's very little chance these would have ended up in a store. So, there's a $400 rift in the "loss", as everybody is putting it. $200 to a multibillion dollar company is some jerkoffs lunch.

Just thought I'd share that little bit of info...

This would make perfect sence, if the items on the inventory ledger were catalogued at purchased value, rather than resale value. But since they are not, A LOSER IS YOU! :p
10 Oct 2003, 11:54 PM
Tommy Tallarico

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Ah, I totally forgot about MVS's pot usage. Maybe he was high when he was making all of those seemingly hypocritical posts.

Or blind.

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Originally Posted by Tones

Matt, mindfield may cause a company to lose a little money, but he is legally bound to be able to. You, on the other hand, are causing another institution - the US government - losses by being apart of the illicit drug usage that is trying to be ousted. It costs money to search for drug suppliers and users, and you are/were apart of the people they are targetting.

Worst analogy ever. Seriously.
11 Oct 2003, 12:06 AM
JMET

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Originally Posted by AFX

Or blind.

Ahh more troll goodness....
11 Oct 2003, 12:07 AM
Tones

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Originally Posted by AFX

Worst analogy ever. Seriously.

Thank you for your input.
11 Oct 2003, 12:07 AM
Tommy Tallarico

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Maybe he was high when he was making all of those seemingly hypocritical posts.

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Originally Posted by JMET

Ahh more troll goodness....
11 Oct 2003, 12:09 AM
Jeremy

Oh my God, I found a funny! Oh wait, it was just a post by you.
11 Oct 2003, 01:10 AM
MVS

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Originally Posted by Tones

Then I guess you can't have any respect for MVS.

It's strange that Matt has the initiative to incriminalize someone that gets a few hundred dollars in free goods legally from a corporation that probably measures its losses in millions, not hundreds, yet openly mentions his usage of illegal drugs. Way to have selective morals.

Openly mention it? Sure. I have smoked pot, many, many times in my life. I'm not proud of doing it, nor did it ever make me a better or worse person for the experience, it just was what it was.

I never sold drugs or anything of the like. It was my concious decision to take them for my own amusement. I think that people should have the choice to do what they like with their own bodies, be that suicide or drugs.

I am not a pothead, nor have I used it in the past 2 years. I know this might be a shocking revelation, but not everyone that uses pot uses it for life or moves on to a life of crime and pestilance.

This is not selective morals. One situation is a person choosing to put whatever they want into their body (cue jokes), and the other is a person choosing to take advantage of a sitation that directly affects another entity.

Personal responsability Vs. Actions on others.

Not the same.

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Originally Posted by Tones

Taken from this thread.

Matt, mindfield may cause a company to lose a little money, but he is legally bound to be able to. You, on the other hand, are causing another institution - the US government - losses by being apart of the illicit drug usage that is trying to be ousted. It costs money to search for drug suppliers and users, and you are/were apart of the people they are targetting.

Please. That makes no more sense than saying that you, you are personally responsable for the US's Debt, because you use the roads to drive on, and the Government pays to keep them open.

If you would like to take some time and work out my taxation rate paid in, versus all the services I have recieved in the country, I'll take a look at it.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Ah, I totally forgot about MVS's pot usage. Maybe he was high when he was making all of those seemingly hypocritical posts.

I'm sorry, but you must be trying to be silly now. No one can be this morally ambigous and have their opinion flutter like so much piss in the wind.

Really, what it is like to have no opinon whatsoever and only make agreeable statements or change your mind with every new post?

If you think the fact that I have smoked pot, years ago, makes me some sort of habitual drug abuser, you really cannot go blind soon enough to make this board better without your presence.

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Originally Posted by JMET

Ahh more troll goodness....

Indeed, from a mere one page back.

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Originally Posted by JMET

I thought that was pretty low untill I realised it came from a wank piece like you...

Perhaps I should be more respectfull towards a jaded and disgruntled has been magazine god such as yourself

Is it jealousy of some sort, mixed with that hypocrisy, or just hypocrisy and bad insults?
11 Oct 2003, 01:29 AM
mindfield

Dear johnsmith@fbi.gov ,

I think I have a thread you might want to look at, someone is smoking weed. I'm not sure if this is true or not. But I saw a US commercial stating drugs financed terrorists attack. This person is therefore a criminal.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...t=23888&page=8

Thank you
A very concerned citizen.
11 Oct 2003, 01:56 AM
MVS

You want my address as well?
11 Oct 2003, 02:07 AM
mindfield

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Originally Posted by MVS

You want my address as well?

that would be appreciated, yes. ;)
i'm kidding man, this whole thing is far behind me. In fact this thread has suffered more than enough already.
11 Oct 2003, 02:43 AM
Rocca

that's fricking crazy man. Well when i bought viewtiful joe, i think they undercharged me by like 20 bucks CDN.
11 Oct 2003, 02:46 AM
frostwolf ex

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Originally Posted by Mode7

I'm a pretty firm believer in karma, myself. What goes around comes around, they say -- good system.

My theory is that Mindfield has been a kind, considerate and all-around decent individual, and the Universe has decided to pay him back in the form of 11 extra copies of Soul Calibur II. And here you all are, trying to twist his came-around to a go-forth. Me -- a jerk? You're the ones fucking up the whole system, assholes.

Actually, it's a nicely specious thought, that. Next time I fuck up royally, I think I'll blame the lot of it on someone else sleeping through their karmic watch. Score!

i see significant irony in this post, mindfield has been given a choice between taking an obvious mistake and exploiting it or doing the right thing and returnign what he didnt pay for, that is somethign i would thing a beleiver in karma would find easy. The loss is going to be noticed, and someone's ass is going to be on the line, if it was you mindfield, would you realy be satisfied with the guy who benefited from you mistake takign it and saying "its his mistake, he deserves it" or would you rather the guy say" i paid for one, i will take one" and send the rest back, possibly saving your ass. Is not a question of law, but is it really a hard question of right and wrong? I see a lot of rationalizations, but rationalizations dont change the core act.

And jeremy, i realize you and matt dont get along, but in this case he really is the voice of reason here. look at what he is saying,he is making a lot of sense.

Finally, about whether matt should have reported it. Well, matt had an oppertunity,when a guy bragged about getting this, to either bust the guy, or show mercy. Anyone condemning matt for his actions while supporting mindfields should note the irony, should matt have shown mercy? maybe mindfield should have, karma my good man.
11 Oct 2003, 04:12 AM
NoFace

This shit is still going on? Goddamn.
11 Oct 2003, 06:22 AM
Jeremy

frostwolf, I've seen Matt's point of view in this thread, and while I don't think he's "The" voice of reason, he's made some great points. However, his past pot usage is something that some find "morally" wrong. Oh, and quit with that "I don't have an opinion" bullshit.
11 Oct 2003, 12:33 PM
Calliander

There's nothing morally wrong about smoking pot. If you think so, then you'd better have a problem with caffeine, tobacco, alcohol, and Rush Limbaugh's favorites.
11 Oct 2003, 12:47 PM
Jeremy

"Some" could find morally wrong. Personally, I have no problem with those who smoke pot. Keep in mind that morals are a person-to-person thing. One person might find it fine to smoke pot, and wrong to keep excess games. Another person could believe the opposite, and so on and so forth.
11 Oct 2003, 01:04 PM
Mode7

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i see significant irony in this post

Too bad you didn't catch the humour as well.
11 Oct 2003, 01:10 PM
bbobb

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Originally Posted by cka

Hmm. Chime-in: Everybody goes on about how the 11 copies of the game is $6-700. Meanwhile, the retail stores probably get them in bulk shipments at a discounted price (lets say $20 per copy.) That's only a $200 or so loss "to the company", and since he ordered them off the internet there's very little chance these would have ended up in a store. So, there's a $400 rift in the "loss", as everybody is putting it. $200 to a multibillion dollar company is some jerkoffs lunch.

Just thought I'd share that little bit of info...

Nope, that's not in the least bit true. Major retailers usually get $50 games at around $40ish, while smaller retailers have to pay around $42-$45.
11 Oct 2003, 01:38 PM
Mzo

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

"Some" could find morally wrong. Personally, I have no problem with those who smoke pot.

First off, I know you don't, so that's OK, but HOW is smoking pot MORALLY wrong? Is smoking a cigarette morally wrong? Is it the fact it is an illegal act IN THIS COUNTRY that makes it morally wrong? I thought we agreed that what is legal should have no bearing on what is moral. Would your morals change because you live in a different country. If they would, you're doing something wrong.

Inhaling and exhaling smoke is morally wrong... that's one of the silliest things I've heard in a long time.

It's OK to be scared of it or nervous about it because you're uninformed and have never tried it. New experiences are frightening, I agree, but to say that you don't approve of pot or pot smokers due to morals, well, that's as dumb as being a vegetarian for moral reasons.

Prostitution, whether legal or illegal, has a much better argument for being an immoral act. Let's discuss that instead.
11 Oct 2003, 02:16 PM
frostwolf ex

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Oh, and quit with that "I don't have an opinion" bullshit.

HUH? i would think my opinion is abundantly clear. i think mind should return the games, you honestly didnt get that from my 2 posts? where exactly are you getting "i dont have an opinion" from?
11 Oct 2003, 03:01 PM
Tommy Tallarico

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

HUH? i would think my opinion is abundantly clear. i think mind should return the games, you honestly didnt get that from my 2 posts? where exactly are you getting "i dont have an opinion" from?

Jeremy's talking about how his opinion on something changes every two seconds and how Matt called him on it.
11 Oct 2003, 07:31 PM
Jeremy

*Sighs
That bullshit line is used on my all the time, quite frankly, I've been sick of seeing it used in nearly every thread I devote a serious amount of time to. Heaven forbid I ever add clarification to things.
11 Oct 2003, 09:20 PM
mollipen

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Originally Posted by Mode7

My theory is that Mindfield has been a kind, considerate and all-around decent individual, and the Universe has decided to pay him back in the form of 11 extra copies of Soul Calibur II. And here you all are, trying to twist his came-around to a go-forth. Me -- a jerk? You're the ones fucking up the whole system, assholes.

That, or he's an ass in other ways as well, and this was a karma "test" to see if maybe he could clean himself up some. *heh*

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Originally Posted by Tones

Then I guess you can't have any respect for MVS.

.... you must not know about the history between me and MVS, do you? I'm not saying that to mean that I don't have some amount of respect for him, I'm saying that to mean that I'm probably not going to lose any sleep over the feelings we have between us.

And I really shouldn't say that I have no respect for potheads... I should have said that my respect for potheads seriously drops once I find out that they are.

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