I want a Macintosh...

Uhh... iTunes destroys Winamp man. Like I said in the thread I was using Winamp for 7 or 8 years (back when the mp3 thing was still catching on and I Downloaded the files from SimpleNet) but it took me 2 days to realize iTunes is better, its not my permanent player.

Like I posted in that thread, learning and ripping was the smoothest, easiest thing in the world. Like four clicks for everything. Without iTunes... lets see I need a seperate program to rip (or a plug-in I have to mess with in Winamp) and then yet another program to burn... and even though it may be slight there is still a learning curve to all three of the programs. Sure some may appreciate the flexibility but I would rather do it all from one program.

I spent a lot of time fiddling with my friend's Mac this summer, and I think its awesome. Much better than Windows.

I used iPhoto, and it was awesome. It took about 10 seconds to learn to use and it did everything perfectly and its all smooth and logical. The interface for grabbing your pictures from Windows XP is about as elegant and intuitive as a shoebox. And yea, yea, you get used to it, and it works okay I guess.

And I was at the campus store and spent about 5 seconds learning to use an iPod, and it utterly shits all over every single mp3 player I have seen in my life. My friend has an iRiver, and navigating the menus is a pain in the ass. When I started using it, I was pressing buttons that would take me here and there, it wasn't navigating right, it totally sucked. Sure, sure, after a little while I got used to it but there's a HUGE difference the iPod which screams usability-is-king! and the iRiver which says... kinda-okay-it-works-alright-could-be-better-but-Ill-deal-with-it-because-thats-how-computers-are .

Whenever Im using Apple products I feel like somebody actually sat down and said "okay, how are users gonna be using this?" and design accordingly, and it ends up being very smooth and consistent and logical. Windows, I imagine a bunch of geeks getting together and designing a solution that works, but just okay, and only after you are used to it and fiddle with it a bit.

That's just my take on it, though... Im definitely not saying everyone should own a Mac or think its cool like I do but a lot of people's opinions of the whole Apple side of things is really really out there, especially on things like price.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Yeah, dude, just try to disable "autoplay" on all of your shit and come back and talk to me some more.

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Um yeah, the first time I ever put a cd into my new pc, a window popped up that said "What do you want me to do with this?", I clicked a button that said "Take no action" and within 10 seconds I disabled autoplay forever.

Hmm... thats funny Regus because when I did that yesterday, I put another CD in the drive 2 minutes later and the same fucking dialog popped up.

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Originally Posted by Regus

Um yeah, the first time I ever put a cd into my new pc, a window popped up that said "What do you want me to do with this?", I clicked a button that said "Take no action" and within 10 seconds I disabled autoplay forever.

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Um, yeah, wake up and read the sentence which clearly says try to disable Autoplay after it's "on". It doesn't address the issue of disabling it when it ISN'T ON YET (that's the preference that you're setting on that first time). Christ, you guys are something else. :P

I agree that out of the box, OSX and the apple apps are easily better. However with a bit of know how you can really get XP running smooth as silk. Although iTunes might do everything, together, Winamp, Nero and CDex do it better. To each his own :)

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

The interface for grabbing your pictures from Windows XP is about as elegant and intuitive as a shoebox. And yea, yea, you get used to it, and it works okay I guess.

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You mean simply dragging and dropping files after Windows XP autodetects a removeable drive isn't intuitive enough for you?

If Apple installs and runs three programs in the background that aren't even necessary for using iTunes, I am not satisfied with the program. Period. Real Networks does the same thing with Real Player, and everyone hates them for it. But I guess you don't have any issues with Apple doing the same thing. They're background services too, so according to haohmaru, I've apparently gotta be a "computer science major" to figure out how to disable them!

Haohmaru, my experience with OSX and Windows XP is that both are rock solid stable. I had an iBook with OSX and eventually sold it, because honestly, I wasn't all that impressed with OSX (though I liked the iBook hardware). I have had zero issues with Windows XP and Windows 2000, because when the people using these operating systems aren't complete retards, they work fine. Surprising!

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Originally Posted by sidez

Although iTunes might do everything, together, Winamp, Nero and CDex do it better. To each his own.

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http://www.bartleby.com/59/4/jackofalltra.html

:D

I was trying to be more tactful than that ;p

Nothing can beat Media Player Classic though, that actually does run everything. Plays .mov better than Quiktime. Maybe Apple will try to do something similar but more bloated :)

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Originally Posted by Mamoscott

P.S. I installed iTunes for Windows, and I like how it superfluously installed Quicktime (even though I already have it installed) and began to run THREE unnecessary background services at Windows startup without asking me.

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You had QuickTime v6.4, which is needed to run the latest version of iTunes?

And if you know enough to know that those three background services were running, you know enough to turn them off. Your problem's solved, and the need to bitch is over.

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Originally Posted by Mamoscott

Real Networks does the same thing with Real Player, and everyone hates them for it.

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Everybody doesn't hate them for that - uptight computer nerds who bitch about ANY level of DRM, act like it's the end of the freakin' world when an icon they didn't agree to appears on their desktop, and complain that more deviced don't support .ogg when 95% of the population doesn't know or care what the hell an "OGG" even is do.

I swear, computer people have to be the bitchiest, most pathetic people on the entire planet.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Hmm... thats funny Regus because when I did that yesterday, I put another CD in the drive 2 minutes later and the same fucking dialog popped up.

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Did you click the check box that said "Do this in every instance" or whatever?

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Um, yeah, wake up and read the sentence which clearly says try to disable Autoplay after it's "on".

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You go into My computer, right click the CD-Rom, click properties, select the "Autoplay" tab and turn it off from there. Either way, it isn't that big of a problem.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

I swear, computer people have to be the bitchiest, most pathetic people on the entire planet.

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I don't care either way about Macs. I forget the characters names in the movie Casablanca but one guy asks another if he hated him and the other said, "I don't know, I suppose I would if I ever once thought about you."

Thats me and Macs.

And I quoted that part because frankly, you calling any group of people pathetic doesn't work. You're as disqualified from judgeing whether or not someone is pathetic as a mad man is for diagnoseing mental illness.