SNK Discussion Madness/ SamShoV/0 Poppy Code

2-d fighter fans are desperate people. We'll play whatever we can get. We'll buy almost anything. Low-Res or Hi-Res, we need something to tide us over till Sammy gets their fighting games to console or at least to this side of the Pacific. SNK Playmore knows this. They know we can't wait several years for fucking lazy ass Capcom to bring out another Street Fighter, VS game or whatever. They take advantage to make themselves some scratch. Hi-Res would be nice, but it's not like shiny graphics are somehow gonna make the gameplay magically better and/or different. I assume gameplay is usually what people buy games for. On a sidenote, SNKP seems to be making decent cash if they can churn out this many games and hire Falcoon.

Yeah SNK needs to drop that ancient hardware... well at least Capcom vs. Sammy (or whatever it ends up being called) has a better chance of being some nice 2D hi-res graphics :)

Look at me I'm a graphics whore!

Cool!

:lol: Brilliant!

Yes, it's old hardware.
Who cares?

We're getting some damn good games, that's really the bottom line. I say, keep the MVS games coming as long as they're profitable.

SNK/Playmore stays afloat releasing games on Neo-Geo hardware thanks to their network of fans who are confusingly dedicated to the MVS/AES line.

SNK may stay afloat on Neo-Geo hardware right now thanks to their fans, but their market certainly isn't going to grow past that anymore. They're essentially just working to serve the hardcore fans they currently have, and aren't looking anywhere past that. If that's fine by them, then I can't argue. I'd like to see them at least try to bring current hardware and current consoles to their main focus, and let the Neo-Geo expire. I don't think all their fans would dissapear if that were to happen.

That said, I'm looking forward to playing Samurai Spirits Zero, but I won't begin to care until a console port is announced (the AES doesn't count, it's an irrelevant system).

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Originally Posted by Wilykat

SNK/Playmore stays afloat releasing games on Neo-Geo hardware thanks to their network of fans who are confusingly dedicated to the MVS/AES line.

SNK may stay afloat on Neo-Geo hardware right now thanks to their fans, but their market certainly isn't going to grow past that anymore. They're essentially just working to serve the hardcore fans they currently have, and aren't looking anywhere past that. If that's fine by them, then I can't argue. I'd like to see them at least try to bring current hardware and current consoles to their main focus, and let the Neo-Geo expire. I don't think all their fans would dissapear if that were to happen.

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Yep. Let's keep in mind that SNK went bankrupt supporting the Neo-Geo... and then by some miracle they are back in business and they are doing the same shit over again.

Azure, poor management and weak Neo-Geo Pocket sales ran them down to the ground the last time though so we have no idea if the Neo-Geo was profitable or not. This time around they seem to have a decent plan. Release MVS cartridge for arcade operators and rich guys, 1 or 2 months later they whore out AES cartridges to the nutballs, then finally 2 months after that they release next-gen console version of game for the masses. Sometimes they make a strange game on the side (KOF 3D in this case...) to make even more profit. I'd say that ain't half bad a plan. The arcade gets enough time to make a profit off of the MVS before the console release, the Neo-Geo whores are kept happy and the masses get the game when it's still somewhat fresh in their minds. Heck they even licensed out the KOF properties to Sammy for even more dough and exposure. Next year they have stacked release list so they can't be hurting too badly for the money unless each and every single game bombs (unlikely). Meh....

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Originally Posted by The Bastard

Azure, poor management and weak Neo-Geo Pocket sales ran them down to the ground the last time though so we have no idea if the Neo-Geo was profitable or not. This time around they seem to have a decent plan. Release MVS cartridge for arcade operators and rich guys, 1 or 2 months later they whore out AES cartridges to the nutballs, then finally 2 months after that they release next-gen console version of game for the masses. Sometimes they make a strange game on the side (KOF 3D in this case...) to make even more profit. I'd say that ain't half bad a plan. The arcade gets enough time to make a profit off of the MVS before the console release, the Neo-Geo whores are kept happy and the masses get the game when it's still somewhat fresh in their minds. Heck they even licensed out the KOF properties to Sammy for even more dough and exposure. Next year they have stacked release list so they can't be hurting too badly for the money unless each and every single game bombs (unlikely). Meh....

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Those masses are the same type who say "Man, this game looks like shit, Guilty Gear X2 looks so much better" and pass it over. I'm curious to see such how well the KoF double pack is going to sell, and if the mainstream public will pick it up, since it is dated. Yes, alot of you will say "Screw the mainstream", but a good selling title gives SNK alot more money to work with, so maybe they can draw new sprites.

SNK stays afloat, yes, but at what cost? Anicent hardware and recycled sprites. I'd love to see one of SNK's releases on a console system look profitable, because that gives them more money to develop with. I'm still a bit confused over why they don't just focus on Playstation 2 and the next gen sytems, instead of thinking of them as an afterthought after Neo Geo.

Maybe it is being a graphics whore, yes, but SNK hasn't really come all that far since the 90's. Hell, games like KoF 2001 have actually looked worse, when it comes to backgrounds and all that. And the last time I've seen a Neo Geo arcade machine was about six months ago, shoved in a corner with Metal Slug 4 and something else... so I'm assuming you're talking about the japanese arcade market, since the US dosen't have much of one.

Yeah, I'm pretty much refering to the arcades in South East Asia and South America. North America's arcade scene is pretty much dead. SNK makes a lot of money in places like Mexico. Heck, SNK Neo Geo USA pretty mostly serves the South America region.

As for the masses, they didn't seem to mind KOF 99 for the Playstation. That shit sold like 500,000+ copies and that was a weakass port. Guilty Gear XX, while is a nice looking game and plays great in my opinion, didn't exactly have fantastic sales. Not every one of the masses is a pure graphics whore. All SNK has to do to make a decent profit off of the KOF2000/01 pack is sell like 30,000 copies. A task that is pretty much possible for them.

Man, some of you are so hung up on graphics. What happened to enjoying good old fashioned gameplay?