Asshole Parents That Don't Celebrate Halloween

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31 Oct 2003, 11:42 PM
Fe 26

My big sister ruined Santa Claus for me, and there will probably always be a small part of me that is bitter about that.

The world is so borring these days, that or depressing.
01 Nov 2003, 12:30 AM
Captain Vegetable

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Don't get me wrong...these parents can raise their kids anyway they see fit within limits. My point is that doing something just because you think your God told you to doesn't make it right.

I understand what you were driving at, man, but we're not talking about crusading in the name of the Christian God, or slaughtering the infidels in the name of Alah. We're talking about relegious parents excercising their parental rights to restrict their children's participation concerning certain holidays.

There's a time and place for everything, but bringing up your particulars about killing in the name of God just doesn't apply here.

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On a side note, the myth/history of King Arthur, along with the story of the Grail Cup, are a manefestation of the above concept.

I don't know about King Arthur, but you are correct about the later. Have you ever read Holy Blood, Holy Grail? It's complete bullcrap, but it's an interesting read none the less.
01 Nov 2003, 01:00 AM
Fe 26

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

I don't know about King Arthur, but you are correct about the later. Have you ever read Holy Blood, Holy Grail? It's complete bullcrap, but it's an interesting read none the less.

Pretty much. Most everything in that story is a conflict between christian and pagan ideals. Everything from the battle between the christian arthur with the pagan Mordred to the concept of the grail. I won't get into it here because its been a while, and it gets rather complex. But if your interested, just look around. There are tons of stuff out there that comment on it.
01 Nov 2003, 01:17 AM
burgundy

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

I understand what you were driving at, man, but we're not talking about crusading in the name of the Christian God, or slaughtering the infidels in the name of Alah. We're talking about relegious parents excercising their parental rights to restrict their children's participation concerning certain holidays.

There's a time and place for everything, but bringing up your particulars about killing in the name of God just doesn't apply here.

I wasn't even going there. There are parents who won't let their children receive needed medical care because it conflicts with their faith. To a lesser extent, some parents pull their kids out of sex ed classes and the such, and children are denied information they're going to need down the road.

Yeah, Halloween isn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things, but my point is that faith isn't the end-all and be-all when it comes to parenting.
01 Nov 2003, 01:30 AM
nixhex311

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s
Dude I am so clueless (i know, big surprise ).
*ahem* Okay, first of all the ONLY person to have ever entered heaven without dying was Enoch and even then he was translated into the spirit. He did not enter as flesh and blood. Secondly, just where exactly did this asinine idea come from? Certainly not from God. Mary was a woman, blessed to be sure, but a normal woman and nothing more.

Actually, the bible says that God took Enoch, possibly to keep him from suffering at the hands of violent opposers. It says nothing about transfering him to heaven. And in John 3:13 it says that no man has ascended into heaven, so that would make enoch going to heaven impossible.

And to all the people who think there is nothing wrong with celebrating a holiday even though it came from pagan rituals, remember that God punished the Israelites whenever they got involved with pagan rituals, even though they claimed they were doing "in the name of God." I'm not going to judge you, to each his own. But to those who think people are stupid for not celebrating halloween or other holidays for religious reasons, who do you think you are? I don't call you ignorant, misled jackasses because you don't care to do any research to see if what you believe is correct or not.

And if you think kids are deprived because they don't get to celebrate halloween, I feel sorry for you if that is that big of a highlight in your life. I celebrated halloween until I was 8 when we changed religions, and I didn't miss it then, and I sure the hell don't miss it now. I've experienced things 100 times greater than even the best halloween I've ever had. And if I could relive it, I would do the same thing again.
01 Nov 2003, 01:38 AM
burgundy

And how would Halloween have interfered with whatever else you experienced?
01 Nov 2003, 01:43 AM
MechDeus

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Originally Posted by nixhex311

And if you think kids are deprived because they don't get to celebrate halloween, I feel sorry for you if that is that big of a highlight in your life.

Yeah, stupid people having fun with their friends when they younger, how dare they wish the same on children of today! I too hate good memories.
01 Nov 2003, 01:50 AM
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I wish I was president. I'd make a new holiday. It would be Kid day. On that day kids get to dress up and and people give them candy.
01 Nov 2003, 02:31 AM
frostwolf ex

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

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Just kidding. Here's the way I look at it: every parent has the God given right to raise their child in a way that they see fit. If this means that they'd rather not celebrate Halloween for whatever reason, fine. I'll not judge you for it. But don't look down your nose at me for celebrating it, or judge me, or tell me I'm not as good a Christian as you are. And for crying out loud, NEVER tell me not to do something. Never.

Remember guys, these parents are doing only what they believe is a correct action in God's eyes, and for that they can't be faulted. It's a better-safe-than-sorry kind of attitude. Is it a bit extreme? Certainly. Is the justification for these actions readily apparent? Certainly not. But it isn't any reason to judge them. If you guys have kids, let them go out for Halloween, but just as you wouldn't like some Christian telling you not to let your kids do it, you must reciprocate by not telling them to let their kids do it.
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Frankly, while i agree with every word you said up to this point(we will discus the other points at another time :mad: ) i am amazed you are wasting your time with this. In regard to religious tolerance, tnl is the biggest bunch of hypocrits ever,and i got bored fighting that fight a while ago. the bottom line is, you do what you think is right, and if a bunch of people want to mock you because you are thinking outside the maistream, then good for you. As i said, halloween means nothing either way to me, but calling people assholes becasue they dont act the way that you do, thats very good, herd minded behavior.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

And how would Halloween have interfered with whatever else you experienced?

Is it your call to judge someone based on what they do or do not celebrate?
01 Nov 2003, 03:10 AM
Rumpy

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

Is it yoru call to judge someone based on what they do or do not celebrate?

He wasn't judging anyone...he was asking a question.

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