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That filtering truly mars MS3, IMO. How bad is it? So bad, I'll take the MVS cart's slowdown over it. The filtering causes a bit of annoying interlace flicker since this takes a 304x224 game into 640x480. Honestly, I'd like SNK USA to kill that so called "special feature".
It'll be nice to see SNK release a game with a Non-Censored option.
Damn, I was hoping MS3 was going to look nice. What is the purpose of bilinear filtering and what makes it cheaper?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chibi Nappa
if any of you are so disgusted by the filtering that you dont want that shitty PS2 port and want the glorious AES rev, Uncle Diffusionx can hook you up with a perfect mint condition copy.
The word from SNK ...No idea what "simulated 3D" means yet. :PQuote:
1. All of the backgrounds in 2001 are simulated 3D. There are two exclusive backgrounds for the PS2.
2. Nothing has been censored from either version. Mai’s chest bounces in both versions and K9999’s arm turns into a gun barrel. He is not actually holding a gun in the classic sense because his entire arm turns into the barrel.
Oh boy, it seems that SNK USA has delayed the game till December 9.
http://www.snkneogeousaconsumer.com/
This is ridiculous. What could they possibly need to fix? The last thing we need is more people pissed off with SNK on this board....
*throws hands up in the air*Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bastard
Hope they are fixing something, or adding something nice in.
Bilinear filtering (or whatever the heck kind of filtering they do) lets them quickly fit the game on a PS2 screen without any additional work. Say the Neo Geo orriginal runs at 312 X 215 (I have no idea what Neo Geo resolution really is, but this is just an example). Then say the PS2 has a low res video mode of 320 X 240 (again, I'm just making numbers up). The Neo Geo orriginal doesn't really fit in the display resolution available on the PS2. A considerable amount of work is needed to re-build it to fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bishop
With filtering, all of that work is skipped by letting the PS2 hardware stretch the game image out to 640 X 480 and then blur out the edges. It is quicker and cheaper, but it gives the game a coat of fuzzy haze and some nasty interlacing artifacts.
As an example, SFIII Double Impact on Dreamcast was re-worked to the propper resolution.
SFIII Thrid Strike on Dreamcast was filtered into 640 X 480.
More DC games in true low res:
Marvel Vs Capcom 1 (DC)
Kof 99 Dream Match and the real Kof 99 (DC)
Bangioh (DC)
Gunbird 2 in Tate mode (DC)
More filtered games
MotW (DC)
Mars Matrix (DC)
Namco Museum (PS2)
KoF 2000 (DC)
This actually works out better for me, since I was going to have to pass on it since FFX-2 and Mario Kart hits the same day, as well as Double Dragon Advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bastard
EBgames and Gamestop still have it as November 18th... but we will see.
The extra modes weren't finished yet (at least in the preview code that we got) and that was fairly recently. They are probably working on that (and it needed to be worked on, so it's worth the delay) before it gets released. That's not the confirmed reason for the bump in release dates, but I think that's what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by FX-ism
You did forget that PS2 KOF2000 is displayed in real low-res, so SNK did have the graphic engine to make a "quick and cheap" real low-res KOF2001 if they had wanted to. The reason is the demand for progressive scan compatibility, in my opinion. Since people usually can't use RGB (or even don't know about it), they cried for VGA support. Even if the game is native low-res. As sad as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chibi Nappa
But a real low-res mode was hidden in this game!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chibi Nappa
And two DC RPG examples: Black Matrix A/D (lovely real low-res) and El Dorado Gate series (poor filters for stunning low-res designs).Quote:
Originally Posted by Chibi Nappa