Who will reign supreme this holiday season?

I think it's pretty safe to say that most people who wanted a PS2 already have one by now. It's been out far longer than the other consoles so it's probably not as desired. With that, the question is: Who will reign supreme after this holiday season? Will it be the Microsoft, who in my opinion has a much better line up of hoilday games? Or will it be Nintendo, who has the cheapest console on the market, but doesn't have a very impressive line up of games (again, in my opinion)?

It's going to be a tough call, but I'm going to have to go with Microsoft. I think that games truly sale a console and Microsoft probably has a much larger and better line up of games compared to Nintendo's. I think this holiday season is crucial to Nintendo's success because if Microsoft tramples them in console sales (Microsoft will almost definitely beat Nintendo in software sales and they would actually kill them in software sales if it wasn't for Mario Kart Double Dash) and software sales, Nintendo will be in quite a hole. Good luck to both companies, but I don't see Nintendo doing anything but selling tons of copies of Mario Kart Double Dash. Keep in mind that after the price cuts Gamecube sales shot up. That tells me that everyone that wanted a Gamecube after the price cut has probably already bought one or their parents bought one and put it up for Christmas. With the release of Ninja Gaiden alone, I see Microsoft winning this holiday season out.

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Originally Posted by Some Guy

I think it's pretty safe to say that most people who wanted a PS2 already have one by now. It's been out far longer than the other consoles so it's probably not as desired.

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I think you're underestimating the PS2's ability to break down.

I honestly can't think of any must-have titles for either system (aside from the previously mentioned MK: DD) that I'm looking forward to. Mostly PS2 and GBA stuff.

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With the release of Ninja Gaiden alone, I see Microsoft winning this holiday season out.

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Maybe if the US population consisted entirely of Satsuki clones.

I think Sony will price drop and will sell the most consoles. Though I think GBA may put Nintendo over the top with their new aggressive pricing strategy for GCN.

I think all will do well, there doesn't neccessarily have to be a "loser" in the holiday season. I think that we may be able to support three systems that all hit a different niche.

Who cares?

Look at the amount of kick-ass games this season, that's all anyone should care about.

Bah. Sony could raise their price to $500, ban EA Sports from publishing PS2 games, instate a "no left arm" policy for all 3d character models on the system, and still outsell everybody else. Sony dominance is just one of the unchangable mysteries of the universe.

I will reign supreme this holiday season!!!

I think the N-Gage is due for some big numbers.











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Nintendo's definitely gonna do better than they have, but Sony's going to probably sell the most. Again.

...though, the Hong Kong Danger Duo will reign supreme in danger, for there are three of them.

... I hope Sony goes the way of Nintendo and drops the PS2 down to 150, or even 100. I would definitely shell out 100 bucks for one because I've been meaning to get one for a long time. It'd help boost sales majorly too.

Although I see Microsoft winning this holiday season with the recent release of three awesome XBL games. Plus Ninja Gaiden is getting pretty hyped up.

The only battle these days is PS2 Vs. GBA. Lets not kid ourselves.

What is up for grabs, however, is momentum, which I don't think will shift much anyways. The gamecube will pick up a little 'cause its the cheapest and has the most hyped game, but it still won't do much.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Maybe if the US population consisted entirely of Satsuki clones.

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You just gave me the chills.

PHANTOM PREORDERS WILL ROCK EVERYONE.

But yeah, Nintendo sales will be good, I think. And despite what IGN and others might bitch about in Mario Kart, this game is going to sell. And I'm going to buy it no matter what. There's not a lot Nintendo could do to make me NOT buy it. MK hasn't disappointed me yet... well, when they removed Koopa from the first game, that kind of stung. The back of the MK64 box said all of our favorite characters were there, in 3D... yeah, mine was rendered as a giant rock. :mad:

But Sony will probably own things, as usual.

Not a lot of games for anything have really caught my interest lately and made me need to run out and buy anything. Not that I can really afford to buy too many games anymore... college. Fun.

p.s. ChaoofNee, I meant to ask sooner, what the bloody hell is going on in your sig?! It's mesmerizing... and scary. Heepest... huh?

sony will own again and whatever sales Ninja Gaiden gets it will be over shadowed by the sales of Manhunt , i see Nintendo surviving on the GC pricedrop and the GBA , Nintendo doesnt have a single BIG game out this holiday meaning GC2 in 2004

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p.s. ChaoofNee, I meant to ask sooner, what the bloody hell is going on in your sig?! It's mesmerizing... and scary. Heepest... huh?

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It's an evil little girl who eats every thing dancing while wearing a chest hair afro on her head and the mother of the kid she's living with dancing with her. When this scene starts, another character walks in on it, and the taller girl says, in Engrish, "Welcome to thee Heepest Treep!"
Funny stuff. Look up Jungle Wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu on Anime Suki. Bizarre, but excellent series. The OVA is good, too.

I think Sony will take it easily again, though the margin will be noticeably smaller than last year due to the Cube's massive price drop and the SPs momentum propelling them forward.

In any case, Nintendo will probably gain enough ground from the Cube's price drop alone to put them well ahead of Microsoft for 2nd place.

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Originally Posted by Telecaster Echo

With the release of Ninja Gaiden alone, I see Microsoft winning this holiday season out.

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Ninja Gaiden's release date is presently December 15th, which would put it in stores on the 16th according to Gamestop, and even that's still not firm. It may not even make the holiday season at all if it gets pushed again, and a little over 1 week on the shelf before X-Mas probably won't make all that much a difference in sales for M$.

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Originally Posted by Telecaster Echo

I think it's pretty safe to say that most people who wanted a PS2 already have one by now. It's been out far longer than the other consoles so it's probably not as desired.

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Look at the numbers for the PSOne - it still seens on a consistant basis. Your comment about the PS2 could have been applied to the PSOne years ago, but there are obviously still people who have yet to buy one but want one. (Not all of those purchases are replacements.)

Thus, I'm pretty certain the PS2 is in no danger of having no more real market to try to tempt into a purchase.

I SHALL REIGN SUPREME THIS HOLIDAY SEASON

Too late, Sidez. child810 is already reigning supreme this holliday season. You'll have to wait 'till next year.

Oh well, can't win them all.

So true. I called Christmas 2005.

I think Dreamcast is still gonna sell strong with Boarderdown, Shikigami 2 and news of Shenmue 3.

(In a better world, this wouldent be a comical statement.)

LOL. There's no way that "everyone who wants a PS2 already got one". The PS2 has sold maybe 50-60 million units worldwide... and PSX has dropped double that. The system isn't even close to market saturation. The demand might be lowering at its current price (I doubt it is, but whatever), but once Sony drops the price the demand will shoot right up again.

Did some of you guys miss the memo? Sony already announced a 40% jump in the sales of the PS2 and a 31% jump in PSOne sales, so there is little motivation for them to drop the price of the PS2.

A lower price will always sell more copies. Especially around the holiday season. Hell I'd get one if they lowered the price, otherwise I don't care.

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A lower price will always sell more copies. Especially around the holiday season. Hell I'd get one if they lowered the price, otherwise I don't care.

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I need to get a new copy of the PS2. Mine got scratched a few days ago.

for this specific holiday? Microsoft or sony, though Sony will probably win again.

Going with the main of argument of "everyone who wants a Ps2 has one" I'd have to say that I would like to see Microsoft get some major numbers this holiday. The lineup of games they have are amazing, compared to the upcoming GameCube lineup.
However I say I'd like for it to be that way, because I can also see Nintendo doing better. Although there aren't a lot of games coming out soon, the ones that are worthy of waiting on the release, are A+ titles. And then you have to take into consideration the systems new price. That will make a lot of people look at the Cube, that never would before.
This holiday will be interesting.
And yes. I'm sure I underestimated Sony's presence this year. But this was purely for the sake of Nintendo VS Microsoft.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Maybe if the US population consisted entirely of Satsuki clones.

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I ,too, dream of utopia....

Sony will move the most units because it's the PS2 and thats just the way it is. Also they have a good line up.

Nintendo will come in second place because people are cheap and don't care that they're throwing their money away as long as it makes the little brats happy come Christmas morning. After that, who cares.

MS will do about as well Nintendo based on their line up this season and hopefully more interest in XBL.

So by Christmas I see the PS2 and the GBA trouncing everything.