Originally Posted by Scourge
The way I see it is this… The first Star Wars, the effects weren’t hardly started until after principle photography was finished. This is documented in many interviews with George Lucas as far back as during the making of Empire as in the book Once Upon A Galaxy – A Journal of the Making of Empire Strikes Back published in 1980. When GL assembled all the footage of Star Wars he was incredibly dismayed to not have any effects done from pre-ILM ILM, with only 5 or so months until release. What this means is GL was not hugely into the effects during the one movie of the original trilogy that he directed. He focused his energies on directing the actors for ANH.
As for Kershner having a great deal of freedom on Empire, he did. George was in America a lot of the time Kershner shot Empire in England. Kershner took advantage of the situation to fill in scenes and dialogue that were not in the original script so as to keep the consistency of the story arc and flesh the characters out a bit. George was assembling, editing and/or supervising special effects a lot of the time Kershner directed the actors.
A great quote regarding Richard Marquand, Jedi’s director, which I’ll paraphrase here, from the book The Making of Return of the Jedi published in 1983, attributed to one of the assistant directors I believe, said “I’d think the last think George Lucas would want is a director that knows effects. Richard doesn’t know anything about effects so he’s able to capture good performances from the actors. You want a director that will shoot a moving story filled with humanity. Then when you add the effects you get that epic feel.”
Now, if you compare that stuff to what GL has done with the prequels, it’s pretty apparent that GL is more interested in effects than performances.
Another difference between the original trilogy and the prequels has to do with that depth of story thing. The story of ANH and the original trilogy had no depth as it was based on archetypal characters that had predestined roles. But within the script was a great deal of camaraderie between the principles, which provided a great deal of humanity to the film. GL has made the prequels to take themselves much more seriously than the OT ever did. With the dumbing down aspects of the story so as to appeal to children of today, these two things don’t mesh. Where the OT was an homage to the serial adventures of the 30’s, the prequels don’t seem to have that in mind much at all. I can say that Ep. II seemed to go back to that formula a bit more than PM, but without a group of principle actors that don’t get to use each others as foils and grow as a circle of friends, it’s still flat. Think of the fact that much of Ep. 1 and 2 pulled the leads apart, like in AotC where Obi-Wan goes off by himself to investigate the clones. There’s just no room in the story for everyone to be together and pal around, sans any scenes in 1 with Jar Jar Binks, and I think there’s a consensus that that was at the very least a bad decision by GL to include him for comic relief.
One big lacking feature of the prequels is the actual space travel. In the OT we are constantly in the cockpits of ships traveling, fleeing, battling… This is all but absent from the prequels. I haven’t even particularly felt as though this is a “space” series now, as so little of it is set against a star-field.
Also, what are the surprises we have in store for the prequels? We’re two movies in and unless Qui-Gon Jin somehow returns as a Sith Lord or Obi-Wan is the one who actually gets Amadala pregnant, what do we have? That Palpatine becomes the Emperor? That Anakin betrays the Jedi and becomes Darth Vader? Mace Windu has been used so little, I can’t accept that any revelation on his character in Ep. 3 is going to have anywhere near the impact of the surprises in the original triology. And Bale Organa could have been used to some capacity that would make him more prominent by this point, but I don’t see any huge revelations about him coming in Ep. 3 either. So there’s a true lack of suspense in the prequels. Sure, we want to see how things we know are supposed to happen play out, but without true twists and turns to the plot, it’s not so compelling.
Another thing that is sorely missing from the prequels are indelible images. Great movies have scenes where you can take a single frame from them, present it as a photograph and the image is representative of everything happening around that moment of the film.
Here’s a few from the Original Trilogy:
1) The opening scene in ANH with the Star Destroyer chasing and firing on the Correlian Corvette.
2) Darth Vader standing with hands on hips surveying the slaughter in the hall aboard the Correlian Corvette near the beginning of ANH.
3) Princess Leia bending over to insert this disc into R2-D2 after she pulls her veil back and before she looks to her right then scampers off.
4) The pod disengaging from the Correlian Corvette with C-3P0 and R2 aboard, and the view from the window of the pod looking up at the Star Destroyer.
5) Luke as he looks toward the horizon at sunset on Tatooine.
6) Vader holding the guy up by the throat asking "Where's the Ambassador" before he throws him down against the wall.
7) Han firing on the Storm Troopers in the docking bay in Mos Eisley, standing beneath the falcon, wide eyed with rag in hand before he runs up the Falcon's entry ramp.
8) Leia lying on the bed in her prison cell.
9) Leia’s good luck kiss to Luke before they swing across the chasm aboard the Death Star.
10) Side view of Vader and Obi-Wan squaring off in their light saber duel.
11) The Millenium Falcon, backlit with lens flare, coming toward the camera after Han frees Luke up to destroy the Death Star.
12) Han and Leia’s first kiss aboard the Falcon, before 3P0 interrupts.
13) Han firing on Vader in the dinner chamber on Cloud City, before Vader force pulls his gun away from him.
14) Han standing shackled, looking at Leia before he’s lowered into the carbon chamber.
15) Vader in silhouette with light saber drawn, waiting for Luke on Cloud City.
16) Vader, hand outstretched toward Luke on the catwalk, when he asks him to join him to rule the galaxy.
17) The bounty hunters lined up receiving orders from Vader.
18) Yoda lifting Luke’s X-Wing from the bog.
19) The skiff escaping with all the principles while Jabba’s sail barge blows up.
20) Vader’s Star Destroyer ‘The Executioner’ crashing into the second Death Star like a huge arrow head going straight down.
Fans of the original trilogy will no doubt be able to envision the scenes above based on a single indelible image. I can't think of anything in the 2 prequels that left that kind of image in my mind, except maybe something from Darth Maul's light saber duel and Yoda's duel in Ep. 2, but nothing even specific about them.
I see that's what GL was trying to do, but he sure didn't succeed very well IMO. The storyline of PM was so convoluted, it's hard to just sit back and enjoy. He should have taken the larger concepts and worked on those things without trying to make the story something more important than it really is. Picture this (instead):
1) An assassin has been dispatched to kill the Jedi one by one. He's succeeded a couple of times as we would be shown. The Jedi Council doesn't know who has hired the assassin so they set out to find out who it is and stop them and the assassin before he's finished his job.
2) The Trade Federation sets up embargos on all worlds within the Rim, placing security vessels in orbit of the worlds to keep Trade from occuring as normal. Smugglers have to be employed by the Inner Rim worlds and much excitement ensues through the battles and chases that would be inherent in this simple concept.
3) The slavery industry on the Outer Rim worlds has started to grow into an underground revolution. The Jedi are sent to "discuss" this with the crime bosses running the slave business and discover one of the slaves who is organizing an uprising is a little boy who is strong in the force.
4) A powerful politician takes advantage of the Inner and Outer Rim problems to dissolve the Republic and start setting up a Police State disguised as, um, hmmm Homeland Security. :p
5) The politician creates a clone army under the guise of protecting the interests of the people, then turns the army on the people and becomes a totalitarian dictator.
Now flesh this stuff out and tell us the story of how Anakin fathers Luke and Leia, Palpatine becomes Emperor and Anakin betrays the Jedi and becomes Darth Vader. Simply, elegantly, and cooly. Don't force a bunch of crap on us that convolutes these simple elements. Make it straight forward and treat it like an old pulp serial crossed with old samurai movies and we're there. Now go, remake these prequels, and make 'em good.