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And thats why you standing behind the war is so ignorant. you dont even seem to realise that this man could have help potential information that could speed up resolution of finding Sadam or possible have some intel that could save a few more of your boys from RPGs. Instead you just blindly think any Iraqi is better dead. Intelligent one that you are.
See you are calling me a racist there and to that I can tell you to go lick my ass. Where do you get off saying that I think "any Iraqi is better dead"? You don't know shit about me, so fuck you. Any high-ranking Baathist is probably better off dead, but Im not gonna generalize here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibbits
I think it's ridiculous how all of you think President Bush would skip out on the very little free time he gets with his family a year and risk his life for a "PR Stunt". Your bais and ignorance amazes me. What would it take for you all to realize that Bush isn't the worst thing that's happened to our country or does the Liberal, Socialist, and Globalist politic that's corrupted all of your brains disallow you to support a man who's not a slave of the UN? The majority of you wouldn't be saying shit if we had UN approval no matter what the circumstances and you should damn well know it.
Do you really think he would have done it if he wasn't up for reelection? Who really benefits from the trip? A handful of soldiers see the President for a few minutes, or the entire, soon to be voting, country sees the President in Iraq? The winner is clearly Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
He's the worst thing to happen to our country in my short lifetime, no doubt about that.Quote:
What would it take for you all to realize that Bush isn't the worst thing that's happened to our country
He'd only have UN approval if it was warranted. He doesn't have UN approval for very good reasons, they can not be ignored. We havn't even fulfilled his own, direct reasons for going over there. We've spent over 150 billion dollars on this war, and everyone has entirely forgotten Al Queda.Quote:
The majority of you wouldn't be saying shit if we had UN approval no matter what the circumstances and you should damn well know it.
I generally consider myself a Republican, and even voted for Bush. But now, 3 years later, man I am ever rethinking things.
I suppose Gore would've been a lot better President? I can see him apoligizing to the extremist Muslim factions after Sept. 11th and just shrugging the whole thing off. What I really hate is when you all act like you understand soldiers and how "a few minute visit doesn't mean anything". I would be damn happy and really regenerated if the President of the United States of America came to visit me. If you all want to see the US really get into some deep shit vote for John Kerry next year, but for the most part people ignore the fact that those guys do plenty of bad shit as well. Remember when Clinton bombed civilians in 1998? Nobody was standing in the street blocking traffic then, at least when we went to Iraq under Bush the objective wasn't to kill civilians. It supposedly wasn't in 1998 either, but laser-guided bombs don't miss EVERY SINGLE TIME. I will admit that President Bush isn't the best and hasn't done everything perfect, but the only reason that everyone is turning against him because he has a powerful opposition that exxagerates and brings out all of his flaws.
Oh and I'm sure the UN has pure intentions, seems all they really care about is basic world control. From what I see they do some "good-looking" peace keeping stuff and get US soldiers killed. Remember in 1982 when 240 US Marines died on "a peace-keeping" operation because they wern't allowed to have their guns ARMED in a hostile enviorment? Do any of you remember dead US Soldiers dragged through the streets on "peace-keeping operations"? The UN has more conspiracy and legitmate beef against it then Bush but people don't listen to that. It really suprises me how controlled people are these days, whether by popular media or the news media.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithium
Have you been in the military? During a war? I haven't, so sure I'm speculating. But although I'm sure Bush's visit was a nice moral booster, it didn't change the fact that they're still thousands of miles away from home, no sign of returning any time soon, doing an extremely difficult job, and their life is in constant danger. Bush flew home in a plush jet and pardoned a god damn turkey for chrissakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
I think it will be Dean up against Bush. No he's not perfect, and the Democrats in general are a huge mess. But I do believe he'd do a better job for this country than Bush has. But then that's not really saying much.Quote:
If you all want to see the US really get into some deep shit vote for John Kerry next year, but for the most part people ignore the fact that those guys do plenty of bad shit as well.
Gohron is one of the very few on this board who actually has a sack big enough to join the military.
See, a lot of people like you don't get the fact that these soldiers are there because of duty and honor, and because they want to serve their country. Remember we're not talking about a draft here, it's an all-volunteer military in this country.
I'd rather have someone like Dean in office like Kerry so I have to agree with you there. Currently I'm enlisted in the US Marine Corps however I'm not active duty at current. But when I signed those papers and swore in I made sure I was good and ready to give my life, I have sympathy for soldiers who died but I would also consider it the ultimate honor to get killed fighting for something I believe in. And I do believe that our being in Iraq is for the better good even if it is not achieved. Any soldier who goes to war then complains is in a position that they shouldn't have put themselves in, I have no sympathy for cowards, death is scary but it's the business the military of any country deals in.
Of course you peeps seem to forget about the broader implications of this.
Many detainees have the last few months died from what are officialy called NATURAL CAUSES, now of course that stuff happens, people die but the funny thing is these people die from NATURAL CAUSES during INTEROGATION.
Dont look surprised when human rights organisations end of this year compile lists of people who were INTEROGATED to death.
Didnt the era of torture end when the US LIBERATED Iraq?