That krazy Ku Klux Klan...

Good points AstroBlue. I dont buy the reverse racism bullshit, its a fact of life that many blacks and other minorities have to deal with racism every day in their life. If somebody fucks me over from a job because Im white... well, okay, that's one time. Whatever. Im (half) white, they'll be plenty more opportunities for me and I doubt Im really gonna be the victim of racism as much as the guy who got the job or got into the school or whatever.

There are only like 930 black people at this school of 35,000... and I bet you if you take away all the people who got in here on athletic scholarships youre maybe looking at 600-700 blacks. You kidding me? That's equality in America? That's all the black people in California that are qualified to go to UCLA?

No, of course not. It's because blacks have on average lower SAT scores and lower grades, because they're from shitty schools and they can't afford expensive Kaplan test preps and shit. If I didnt get accepted to Berkeley because they decided to let some black kid in with slightly lower grades and test scores instead, but he's from the ghetto, whatever. I got in here, so that's okay. Im not gonna piss and moan about it. And neither should any other white person who will in all likelihood never be targets of "reverse racism" ever again in their entire life. Let's be real here.

As for Palestine, yes. Those shitheads need to put down the Koran and the PLO charter or whatever for a bit and start reading some Gandhi and Martin Luther King, because suicide bombings ain't doing shit for them except misery and more violence. But no one's gonna realize that while the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER Yassir Arafat is still in power.

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Nah Im not condemning them to hell at all... like I said if theyre gonna shoot people it might as well be themselves, hopefully before they pass their hate onto their offspring.

Yea, it sounds shitty but I just cant give these fuckheads the benefit of the doubt or just hope hope hope and pray that they will come to their senses. They won't. They will fester in their hate and pass it on to their kids who will become nothing more than shells for the hate.

Just look at Palestine. Instead of creating a functional, working government and social order with what they had, they have spent the past half century just hating Jews and hating Israel. Where has it got them? Nowhere, nowhere at all. But it's not gonna end.

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Yep... sad state of things.

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Yea it is idealistic and if you ask me there comes a time when you just have to throw your hands up and realize that nothing you can do will change them. First of all they wouldnt even WANT anything to do with me and they would probably want me dead because Im the offspring of a mixed race marriage, second of all like I said hate is all encompassing, thats why its so dangerous. You cant just "help them get out of their situation" - thats hippie nonsense along the lines of... "they're poor? So give them money!".

Im a pragmatic person, really... but nothing that the government (since the government is the problem), black people (ditto), Jews (ditto), or anybody else can do will change the thought patterns of these swine one bit. Anyone who escapes from all that figures things out for themselves, but the vast majority are too close/simple-minded and blinded by hate to actually think things out.

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Diff, congratulations, you are the first person to ever call me a hippie. ever! I feel like i need to shoot a spotted owl just to get my street cred back. I see where what you are saying makes sense to a point, but you go too far with it. Its one thing to say that there are people who are too far entrenched in their activities to be ever saved, but i prefer to make that decision after i have at least tried to change them. Yopu assume that hate is all encompasing,and i challenge you on that. Their hate is strong, but its also particularly fragile, its based on a lot of irrational thought and knee jerk reactions, which is why the klan is stronger in small, isolated communities. I say, that if you catch them outside of their isolated enclaves,and show them people who they have steriotyped, show them that these people are not the way they think, it creates doubt, which is the first step to the destruction of their beleifs. Its not even that hard since their beleifs are so outrageous, they easily shown to be false.

I am not saying its easy, nor that its going to work for the majority of the guys in this situation, but surrendering the whole group as wastes of life, in addition to being frighteningly similar to their own beleifs, thats not pragmatic, it's being overly pessimistic, fuck, its outright lazy, these people are just "swine" to you, so why waste my time ever seeking if i can save any of them, its not like they have souls or real humanity that i should care about.

Look, you have said in previous threads you are a christian,and im asking you to consider, is the attitude of "fuck em, they are wastes of life" is that in any compatable with our mindset? Jesus went among the absolute worst people of his time and found good among them, I take that to heart, no group is so corrupt that you can just write them off. Nobody is asking you to get yourself killed here, there are people too dangerous to try to help by yourself, but dont give me that bullshit and call it pragmatic, if those groups you have mentioned have failed to change a simple-minded klansmen's head, then its because they are groups, not individuals, you are an individual,and i am an individual, what can an individual do? thats what you need to ask yourself. as for me, when i "throw my hands up and say there is nothing i can do for these people" then i should renounce my claim to be a christian or catholic, because at that point it will be a fucking lie.

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As for Palestine, yes. Those shitheads need to put down the Koran and the PLO charter or whatever for a bit and start reading some Gandhi and Martin Luther King, because suicide bombings ain't doing shit for them except misery and more violence. But no one's gonna realize that while the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER Yassir Arafat is still in power.

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Actually you are half right, they could do well by actually reading the koran and ignoring the hate filled mullah's that pollute their minds and twist the true words of islam. there is a reason american muslims are not acting like their palestinian bretherin, its because they can study the koran freely, outside of those schools that corrupt islam to what it has become in those countries. But good call on arafat's nobel prize reference, jsut another cast of the clear thinking europeans showing americans the true meaning of justice and peace in the modern world, silly usa.

Yea, I guess... I guess youre right.

well thats no fun. i would rather you explain why you think im wrong, or if you actually agree with me, there has to be things you could expand on even then. Look, i respect your opinion(in sound off, in gaming discussion your taste just sucks:D ) quite a bit, more than a lot of other posters, and this is a thing close to both of our hearts, but i want to hear your side, you said your thing,i said mine, so lets see what you have to say, i am sure you have more than that to say, and i would really like to see it, as i do learn from a lot of your (sound off) posts.

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The problem with "reverse racism" is that some people think it's a way to justify "normal racism".....

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Not a personal attack, because I know exactly what you are saying here, but I just had to point out how utterly stupid this statement is because it represents the defective mind set of far too many people.

I mean honestly, WHAT THE FUCK IS "REVERSE" RACISM?! This is amounts to one of THE stupidest terms ever coined. It doesn't even make sense. Racism is hatred and oppression directed toward another human being on the basis of skin color or ethnic background. "Reverse" racism would then be hatred and oppression directed towards yourself on the basis of skin color or ethnic backgound.

Moreover, the term is even more idiotic as it implies that, somehow, only whites are guilty of being retarded baboons. Last time I checked my history books ALL human cultures were guilty of being retarded baboons.

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well thats no fun. i would rather you explain why you think im wrong, or if you actually agree with me, there has to be things you could expand on even then. Look, i respect your opinion(in sound off, in gaming discussion your taste just sucks:D ) quite a bit, more than a lot of other posters, and this is a thing close to both of our hearts, but i want to hear your side, you said your thing,i said mine, so lets see what you have to say, i am sure you have more than that to say, and i would really like to see it, as i do learn from a lot of your (sound off) posts.

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well... you are right. I dont have much more to say beyond that. Sorry.

As for my opinion on Gaming Discussion, what can I say? It is pretty sucky, I guess.

I am confused by just about every single one of Parcher's posts. No offence man but could you explain to me what relevance they had and who you were saying them to? Nobody directed anything at you and you went off on some big argument that didn't really seem to have any relevance to the thread at all.

Thats just Parcher for ya.
He is a liberal left wing freak who cosplays as a hardcore rightwinger and this confuses him so much that he doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

You should see his Opa Age posts where he admited as much.

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Thats just Parcher for ya.
He is a liberal left wing freak who cosplays as a hardcore rightwinger and this confuses him so much that he doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

You should see his Opa Age posts where he admited as much.

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I suspected as much. He claims to have oh-so-macho right-wing beliefs but he acts like a lilly-livered lefty.