Campfire: Reversed Survival Horror

Just heard about this game and it sounds interesting. It's by the Swedish Daydream Software who brought us Safecracker and Traitors Gate on the PC. I haven't played Traitors Gate yet but Safecracker is a fun puzzle game where, in order to get a job with a premier safe-making company, you're charged with breaking into all their different brands of safes (conveniently located in one mansion) in the span of a single night. It's stylish and addicting from what I've played (though painfully dated in the graphics technology and presentation).

In Campfire you choose between four different serial killers and wreak havoc on your campground prey with assorted weapons (knife, axe, chainsaw, machete). It does indeed sound like more fun than being the hunted (maybe just 'cause we've done that already so many times); makes you wonder why this "reversed survival horror" hasn't been tried before (online RE notwithstanding [is this game out yet? regardless, not really the same thing]).

Anyway, I guess it's still a ways off from completion. IGN has a lil' article.

http://www.daydream.se/images/_campbild.gif

I don't know, I'm not surprised it hasn't really been tried (that I know of) before. It doesn't sound like it'd be that much fun for long. Whenever I want to prey on the weak and helpless, I'll go beat pedestrians in GTA, thank you. I think the reason we have so many survival games and not many where you're the hunter is because there's so much more to do when surviving. You run, you hide, you look for weapons to defend yourself. Whereas the monster just keeps looking, and when it finds something, it kills it. I guess it's about gameplay variety. If the people you're hunting fight back well, then I guess it's just another action game. And if they don't fight back, doesn't sound like much of an exciting game to me.

I could be wrong. This idea doesn't do much to excite me, however.

Cool. I've actually always wanted a Friday the 13th game where you could play as Jason. That would rock.

*EDIT* Looks like you CAN play as Jason...well, sorta. Cute parody, I like the ice skate on the hand.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ca...303_art_08.jpg

Horror themed games are my favorite.

Is this for PC or consoles?

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Originally Posted by Grave

I don't know, I'm not surprised it hasn't really been tried (that I know of) before. It doesn't sound like it'd be that much fun for long. Whenever I want to prey on the weak and helpless, I'll go beat pedestrians in GTA, thank you. I think the reason we have so many survival games and not many where you're the hunter is because there's so much more to do when surviving. You run, you hide, you look for weapons to defend yourself. Whereas the monster just keeps looking, and when it finds something, it kills it. I guess it's about gameplay variety. If the people you're hunting fight back well, then I guess it's just another action game. And if they don't fight back, doesn't sound like much of an exciting game to me.

I could be wrong. This idea doesn't do much to excite me, however.

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Ah, come on, ya gotta use your imagination. There's lots of ways they could keep it interesting.

(For instance): Your victims will constantly be trying to kill and outsmart you, setting traps for you, locking you out of places. You'll have to always stay one step ahead, figuring out how to get to them while they're most vulnerable. They'll want to call for help so you'd have to find and cut their phone line. Or more interestingly, you find the line and intercept their distress call, impersonate law enforcement and tell them you have a deputy just outside their door to rescue them, they just need to open up. Then your reward, when they finally let you in, will be a most gruesome and grisly murder as your victim screams and begs for his/her life. lol. That's a much better reward than a medicinal herb or some ammo for your revolver or whatever you'd get as the hunted in normal survival horror. Then you could use their limbs and innards (which you'd now have as items in your inventory) to try to scare your next victim into surrendering (but of course, you never accept surrenders, always hacking and slicing instead). :nod:

This is just some random stream of conciousness stuff I thought of in a couple minutes. I have faith the designers can come up with all sorts of entertaining ideas. Especially if they decide to really go off the deep-end and make the player uncomfortable and sick to his stomach with just how brutal and ruthless he's becoming. There's a lot of potential here. Of course, it could all turn to crap as we all know. I'm hoping for the best though.

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Originally Posted by Korly

Horror themed games are my favorite.

Is this for PC or consoles?

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It's PS2 only for the time being. And I love horror games in general as well. Didn't mean to insinuate that this "reversed" idea will necessarily be better or worse, just different (which is always good in sequel-happy and idea-stealing videogame land).

Let's hope it does something more interesting than Manhunt

Thank you! I heard about this game some time ago but forgot the title and up until now thought I dreamed it. I love the premise but I won't get excited until it actually get's released.

Sounds cool. Lots of potential here.

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

Sounds cool. Lots of potential here.

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If you think about it, there is a ton of shit you could do. It could be like a darker Theif or Tenchu. You have to sneak up to a cabin, peaking through windows, making sure you aren't seen. Then wait for them to get close to a window and crash through to grab them and pull them out. Or just plow through the front door. Weapons could be really wild, no guns (maybe for victims) but knives, chainsaws, tree trimmers, hatchetsm maybe some face crushing for a change of pace. The stages could be set up like different horror movies. Old house, a camp, a ship, space station...

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Originally Posted by Compass

(For instance): Your victims will constantly be trying to kill and outsmart you, setting traps for you, locking you out of places. You'll have to always stay one step ahead, figuring out how to get to them while they're most vulnerable. They'll want to call for help so you'd have to find and cut their phone line. Or more interestingly, you find the line and intercept their distress call, impersonate law enforcement and tell them you have a deputy just outside their door to rescue them, they just need to open up. Then your reward, when they finally let you in, will be a most gruesome and grisly murder as your victim screams and begs for his/her life. lol. That's a much better reward than a medicinal herb or some ammo for your revolver or whatever you'd get as the hunted in normal survival horror. Then you could use their limbs and innards (which you'd now have as items in your inventory) to try to scare your next victim into surrendering (but of course, you never accept surrenders, always hacking and slicing instead). :nod:

This is just some random stream of conciousness stuff I thought of in a couple minutes. I have faith the designers can come up with all sorts of entertaining ideas. Especially if they decide to really go off the deep-end and make the player uncomfortable and sick to his stomach with just how brutal and ruthless he's becoming. There's a lot of potential here. Of course, it could all turn to crap as we all know. I'm hoping for the best though.

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Okay, sold. Now, let's see if the developers are thinking along the same lines, and we could have a hit.

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Originally Posted by 680x0

Let's hope it does something more interesting than Manhunt

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I've been looking foward to this game for awhile now.

I really like the concept, and the Jason-ish art design shows they've got a good sense of humor and creativity too. I'll definitely check out impressions before snagging it, but I hope it's as good as it sounds like it could be.

I also hope it doesn't focus on stealth, but that's a really long rant waiting to happen. I just wanna go in guns blazing, chainsaw growling, or lawnmower strapped to my chest spinning out ropey strands of blood. Is that so wrong?

James

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Originally Posted by 680x0

Let's hope it does something more interesting than Manhunt

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My thoughts exactly. Because of this I have no interest in getting excited until it comes out.

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Originally Posted by James

I really like the concept, and the Jason-ish art design shows they've got a good sense of humor and creativity too.

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It doesn't quite compare to the Jason clone from splatterhouse, but it's pretty spiffy from a psycho killer's point of view.

Sounds similar to Tecmo's Deception series which I enjoyed playing.

We've got Traitor's Gate at work and I never gave it a second look. Anyone played it?

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We've got Traitor's Gate at work and I never gave it a second look. Anyone played it?

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I have it but still haven't tried it. From what I read it's similar in style to Safecracker. But also, like that game, you have to be a real fan of the genre to get into it. Since I loved Safecracker and am one such adventure game whore, I'm expecting to be charmed (which is one reason I haven't gotten to it yet [saving it]).

So I haven't heard a peep about Campfire since last year. It's still listed on Daydream's site so hopefully it isn't canceled. Anyone heard anything?

I haven't heard a damn thing. I hope it's still in the works.

It's funny that you bumped this thread, I was just wondering about this game recently.

Doesn't appear they have made a update to their site since 2003. Any idea if they are still in business?

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Cool. I've actually always wanted a Friday the 13th game where you could play as Jason. That would rock.

*EDIT* Looks like you CAN play as Jason...well, sorta. Cute parody, I like the ice skate on the hand.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ca...303_art_08.jpg

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why is the art on a crumpled piece of paper?

Well, I don't know what's up with this game. Haven't heard a peep in forever. Could be canceled. The daydream website looks completely different now and I can't tell if it's even the same company (no mention of Safecracker or Traitors Gate).

Wow, I just recently played through Traitor's Gate. A guy at work insisted that I play it.

Wasn't bad. Wasn't good.